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I'm nowhere near Anthony7 on the Osorio spectrum, but I've also raised my concerns and issues with Osorio since the injury.  I seem to be a little different to most on here in the sense that I've been pretty vocal about moving on from hero's and class acts once their play starts to decline.
Also, I've always liked him and can't understand how someone can't at least respect what he's done.  He was never our best or most important player, yet he had earned a starting spot and delivered some special moments even with his limitations.  Saying he's regressing is one thing, saying he's terrible and always was is another.  
While he's good for a goal and an assist here an there along with a solid passing rate.  My concern is his one-way game, he'll always show up for an offensive play, but we've seen him give up too easy on the defensive plays.  That's one thing that's always irked me with some players, even the great ones.  Lately I feel he just disappears from games for really large periods of time or he's just not where he should be, unless the play is in the box.  Last night, once again, the lowest touches of all TFC players in the middle, some with substantially less minutes than him.  
JO - 90min / 43 touches
LI - 59 / 56
AC - 59 / 48
ML - 90 / 59
RL - 90 / 54
This is the main reason I'm over him in a top 5 mid for CANMNT perspective.  Others have shown more drive, intensity as well as strong two-way games.  Unfortunately we don't have the luxury to play a player with that profile.  It's just a matter of time now, I'm not even sure he's in the discussion in 12 months.  

A lot to chew on with this and the other posts and don't have time to respond to all the points being made in the discussion but I will say this:
you agree that Osorio is only behind Kone, Eustaquio, Choiniere, Saliba and Sigur and ahead of Kaye, Piette, Paton, Fraser, plus everyone else. In other words, he is 6th in the depth chart.
Can we agree the 6th midfielder, whether that is Oso or someone else, is not irrelevant to the team?
This window for example we picked 5 midfielders and 5-6 CMs seems like the maximum we are going to pick for any given selection.
You may not think much of Osorio but if you are conceeding that he is 6th in the depth chart, that is too close to the team to claim he is irrelevant, no? Furthermore, how can you claim he is keeping anyone out of the team if the players in front of him (Saliba and Sigur) are in the team already?
Eventually Saliba/Sigur will eat up his minutes but it's going to happen in due course. Marsch is squeezing value from Oso which gives him the luxury to integrate Saliba and Sigur at the appropriate pace. I trust Marsch given what I have seen thus far.

I checked carefully, the ball just bounced off his foot.  He shouldn't even get credit for it.

I'm nowhere near Anthony7 on the Osorio spectrum, but I've also raised my concerns and issues with Osorio since the injury.  I seem to be a little different to most on here in the sense that I've been pretty vocal about moving on from hero's and class acts once their play starts to decline.
Also, I've always liked him and can't understand how someone can't at least respect what he's done.  He was never our best or most important player, yet he had earned a starting spot and delivered some special moments even with his limitations.  Saying he's regressing is one thing, saying he's terrible and always was is another.  
While he's good for a goal and an assist here an there along with a solid passing rate.  My concern is his one-way game, he'll always show up for an offensive play, but we've seen him give up too easy on the defensive plays.  That's one thing that's always irked me with some players, even the great ones.  Lately I feel he just disappears from games for really large periods of time or he's just not where he should be, unless the play is in the box.  Last night, once again, the lowest touches of all TFC players in the middle, some with substantially less minutes than him.  
JO - 90min / 43 touches
LI - 59 / 56
AC - 59 / 48
ML - 90 / 59
RL - 90 / 54
This is the main reason I'm over him in a top 5 mid for CANMNT perspective.  Others have shown more drive, intensity as well as strong two-way games.  Unfortunately we don't have the luxury to play a player with that profile.  It's just a matter of time now, I'm not even sure he's in the discussion in 12 months.  

I'm nowhere near Anthony7 on the Osorio spectrum, but I've also raised my concerns and issues with Osorio since the injury.  I seem to be a little different to most on here in the sense that I've been pretty vocal about moving on from hero's and class acts once their play starts to decline.
Also, I've always liked him and can't understand how someone can't at least respect what he's done.  He was never our best or most important player, yet he had earned a starting spot and delivered some special moments even with his limitations.  Saying he's regressing is one thing, saying he's terrible and always was is another.  
While he's good for a goal and an assist here an there along with a solid passing rate.  My concern is his one-way game, he'll always show up for an offensive play, but we've seen him give up too easy on the defensive plays.  That's one thing that's always irked me with some players, even the great ones.  Lately I feel he just disappears from games for really large periods of time or he's just not where he should be, unless the play is in the box.  Last night, once again, the lowest touches of all TFC players in the middle, some with substantially less minutes than him.  
JO - 90min / 43 touches
LI - 59 / 56
AC - 59 / 48
ML - 90 / 59
RL - 90 / 54
This is the main reason I'm over him in a top 5 mid for CANMNT perspective.  Others have shown more drive, intensity as well as strong two-way games.  Unfortunately we don't have the luxury to play a player with that profile.  It's just a matter of time now, I'm not even sure he's in the discussion in 12 months.  

I checked carefully, the ball just bounced off his foot.  He shouldn't even get credit for it.

I checked carefully, the ball just bounced off his foot.  He shouldn't even get credit for it.

Could be the ghost of Kurt L@rson, the guy who wrote in the sun he would never make it 

I love how every rebuttal is a long winded version of "nuh uh!"

Basically MVP stats.
 
 

Like this?
 

Do you dream about oso.  It’s all you think about. Maybe you’re in love with him and he didn’t want you back? 

You guys should just kiss already 

Well.... better give some younger players some time then, 'cause Osorio won't be involved in 2026. Remember our CB depth?

So Osorio IS a depth player? Or he's NOT a depth player? Or he's NOT NOT a depth player?
In my defense, I said he was deep down the depth chart but... anyways. Divisive topic for such a longtime national team trooper with some legendary contributions. Oh well.

There are many things not right in the world - why are you picking this one to be your singular bone to pick with every increasingly obsessive post you make?  That's what has all of us puzzled... 

Doesn't Oso have a brother called Anthony? 🤔

Played the first half vs. Nuremburg at home, was subbed out with another when it was 0-0, it ended 1-2. Can't be sure why they did that sub if they were drawing a stronger rival, even it it was a home.

Just scored a beautiful volley.

What a strike by Anthony's boy.
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If only I could do that with important stuff!

Nice, but what the hell were the D and keeper doing there?  Talk about zero resistance.