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Even further @Dominic94 here is a list of players that have come from either academy, and have played for another club in MLS that wasn't Canadian. TFC: Shaffelburg, Petrasso, Priso, Russell-Rowe, Edwards, Henry, Pasher, Morgan, Chapman, Fraser Impact/CFM: Ouimette, Take it even further to USL with the same rules: TFC: Malik Johnson, Nathan Dossantos, Matthew Srbely, Jordan Peruzza, Keven Aleman, CFM: Lucca Ricci, Alessandro Riggi, And if you take it even deeper to the CPL excluding loans you will STILL find more former TFC Academy players. And if you look in Europe, you will STILL find more former TFC Academy players. So my final take on this is, if you guys expect TFC to be the Barcelona, Bayern, Man City, PSG of Canada. I'll put my hand up and say "Yes, I 100% expect that too".....but in the same breathe I understand that Montreal is "Leceister, Leverkusen, Lyon, or Villareal" Not comparable....So I won't expect or compare the results. The budgets/infrastructure aren't comparable. I understand TFC and their academy plays a massive role in the development of Canadians, however I also understand their significance in the league and being one of the leagues biggest markets so winning is priority for the sake of relevancy for Canada because the Caps or Montreal haven't done it. I only understand that TFC can't be, and shouldn't be the only one developing talent....yes they should be doing it at higher rates (as I've shown that they are) but the onus doesn't only fall on them. It's actually worrisome that a lot of talent has been touched by TFC.

Very interesting take. Don't call me @RS now but, correct me if I'm wrong. Besides last year and maybe a 1-2 guy.... who has TFC forced into a full back position? Also I don't know how you could say they were mishandled when in hindsight they all ended up in really good situations albeit maybe 1 guy. Lets look.... 1. Shaffelburg got shipped out midseason for a better situation, and ended up performing/triggering the permanent deal. I still think his future lies at fullback, as his skillset is limited going forward (imo). 2. Petrasso was given enough game time to showcase his skillset in his first season to warrant Orlando to trade for him. 3. Jayden had a coming of age season, played his best season to date which got him his transfer to Rosenburg. 4. Deandre Kerr played above average minutes for a 20 yo HG signing in his first season in professional football. 5. Luke Singh got shipped out to a dire situation in Edmonton, however played almost every game. 6. Noble OKello was injured half the season, and couldn't really get going but was given the opportunity too. 7. Jordan Peruzza made more appearances than he should have as he's no way near ready for MLS (imo) 8. Kosi Thompson had a great first season for a 19yo. He played a mix of RB and RM and was the epitome of healthy guy who can get on the field and do a job (remember he was playing over a natural RB in Chung, so its says more about the player rather than the coach) Now JMR is the only guy who I think you're out of position comment is valid for. THAT, I don't like. Montreal isn't on a pedestal, pump the breaks on that. Last year was an anomaly for their success, and the selling for the club. Kone wasn't developed by Montreal albeit they put him on the stage. Johnston was already being talked about going off to Europe before his move. The Montreal move actually came as a surprise to everyone. It was even mentioned here that it was probably just a pass through with the club - which it was and the reason why Nashville put a 10% sell on clause in the trade. Outside of those two guys, who had absolutely no affiliation to their academy ...who have they sold or at least moved on to Europe as a result of their training? Or who else in the league is connected to CFM? I'll wait for this.... Don't let their the penny pinching blind you with the loans, because that's all that it is. They don't value having a second team so they sent out 4 players to the CPL for subsidy. Is that all the talent they have? What about their other top talent.....I guess PLSQ is better than MLSNext Pro - I'll strongly disagree. I can't speak for the Caps, because they are the Caps....someone else do that. Again...you're talking out of your ass on this. You can't reference last year, and now void it because it hypothetically fits this statement. Last year TFC gave more minutes to their academy players then MTL by far! And because you can clearly see things are changing because the club wants to win for Canada's relevancy in MLS, last years minutes is now null and void. EDIT: Actually looking at the two rosters, it's not even a guarantee that CFM will play more academy products...you're banking on only Zouhir & Choinierre to get minutes, while TFC has JMR, Akinola, Thompson on roster who collectively played way more minutes then those two. So you gotta make it make sense. A lot of bias while voiding the facts.

I want to see him in his preferred position consistently - which I think is in midfield. He reminds me of Kosi.

If you never mentioned that you’re an MTL fan, you sure have now with that bias. If your idea of a better plan consists of getting guys loans because they don’t operate a professional second team then you have an essay with trust being your thesis…And less a factual statement.

makes sense, but what doesn’t is that they have these convo separate with the same federation. Meaning someone should’ve forecasted an issue. You say Tier 1, yes I’m quality…but what about sales, or that doesn’t matter? Anyways Im going to assume our young boys are playing qualifying in the same 2021 kits.

I 1000% agree. It's almost like we don't rate it, and will only do so when they've won champions league or something. We are probably the only Concacaf nation in the top 10 that doesn't frequently do domestic camps. There's absolutely no excuse, and I think someone mentioned that it's like JH doesn't like doing these. You even made it easy by unnecessarily narrowing it down to a GTA camp, because Montreal and Ottawa aren't far where guys can't get on train if the CSA is THAT broke. I'm even sure the USA would be easily down for their B/C team to play. To name a few additional guys ZBG, M. Choiniere, Piette, Miller, Shaw, Ingham, Pantemis. There's absolutely no excuse.

Expect nothing. And be surprised.

Especially with the game being on a Tuesday! I’m trying to bring at least 6 guys.

We’re going to see the same bench guys. It’s suck we don’t operate like the the other Concacaf countries that are able of scouting their local talent and giving them opportunities on the national stage. (Which typically propels them) It now seems like if you’re not playing in the prem, you won’t get called up or get a look.

He’s got a few months, his season starts in April. We might see a Nelson Vs Dunn matchup.

Funny he was the other guy that was missing from training.

Came here to say something similar to this. However he has a very important year for his personal career and TFC. I think with his salary of $671,875.00 he's sitting reallllllllly comfy for a 23yo who really hasn't done much. It was easy for Jayden to make that move to Europe because his wages were probably minimally increased, where Akinola might not want to make that move UNLESS if his salary is matched. So it's an absolutely massive season for him imo.

LFG Jayden, time to tear it up! He's going right into preseason. Didn't realize there season starts in April.

Sigh….a #10, to a winger, to a wingback, to a fullback, to the full bench. This was suppose to be his breakout year for me. Javain Brown, Triston Blackmon, and Jillian Gressell could all play that position.

Fixed your post.

For me…with TFCs win now mode, means free all the higher rated homegrowns for me. Shaffelburg ✅ Petrasso ✅ Nelson ✅ Akinola (23) 🔜 with Diomonde in, he will probably split time with both him and Jimenez JMR (18) 🔜 with the Italian in, Laryea will play on his natural side, which means JMR will be competing for backup minutes with a natural RB in Chung. He needs to play his natural position. Thompson (20)🔜 the utility man, has shown he can play anywhere and will need consistent minutes to improve - wherever that is. I just don’t see his minutes increasing, and more than likely decreasing below 1600 this year. …. the rest (Mbongue -18, Kerr -20, Italian Translator- 22, Themi -21) can stay and play the fringe minutes that they will receive.

Definitely for the 2 team. It would be bad for the caps if it wasn’t.

...this doesn't say anything. Or signify that anything has changed......yet.

Are you talking about Mael? Because Nextpro is professional academy players.

Switching academies nice.

Is Henry playing/training right now? I haven’t seen him in any content.

90 in a 2-1 win with 7.7 fotmob rating. Think if he keeps it up, he should get a call for nations league. Outside of Vitoria we don’t have any other CBS in match form.

The interesting part for me is that he holds a Jamaican passport. Unless that’s a misunderstanding of his ancestry.

He’s 19 and still eligible to play for Englands U20 at the WC this year, or their U21 at the Euros. If he gets snubbed by both those teams, I could see him making a switch. But since those both are highly unlikely, we will have to wait till his youth playing days are over.

Besides him (he was 18 and had 65 apps) he’s the only guy aside from some Wolves guys returning from their loans within the past few years. I could be wrong though…