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lol...don't worry it won't be me to do it. I can say this 1000x, I don't care if he's there or not. We done revolutionary things without him. If he's there than great, we got another piece that can contribute in training 🤣 . (I'm obviously talk shit)

Nope. It will actual be the end of the debate if he's not called. And his wiki will be updated to Canada 2016-2019

Welcome to the board. This has been one of the main topics around the clique/ not being apart of the brotherhood.

No you’re not alone. For me, I just hate the talk that he’s one of the best….which is a lie. And disrespectful to the lot who have gotten us to where we are today. If he’s back cool. If he’s not cool. Our identity and level of play doesn’t change because he’s there or not.

LOL holy shit what a statement my guy. I can promise you this. Arfields inclusion in the squad will not be the reason we make the WC, likewise his exclusion won't be the reason if we don't make it. That is a shockingly egregious statement. Also Herdman doesn't owe us shit, but to take this team to the WC. Message the media guys with press passes to ask those pressing questions that everyone is losing sleep over to Herdman. You know the guys who are employed by the people we pay a subscription to....Oliver Platt, Gareth Wheeler, yea, yea ask them.

Nvm...He's off.

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Thank you for this. You make the most important piece about sport element being in it. However not surprisingly, the response will be “that’s us” - which in reality is true across all of our national teams except for Rugby. So for me I’m looking for a modernization of the logo like you mentioned that even the top national teams have done throughout the years when they didn’t necessarily have too.

If GQ only knew that they and anyone could have that same kit with their logo on it. Heck we could have a voyageurs kit for a fraction of the price…But that’s another point.

I hear ya, but considering this might be the first year we present the player with an actual award (and not fantasy) on behalf of the members donations. I think @Big_M has a point. It might be the year to make it exclusive, so we know it properly represents the Voyageurs, absent possible trolls.

It wasn’t meant to be offensive, just more to the point of when your older and have grown with a certain product. You typically acquire an affinity for said thing, and don’t like when things are changed. Maybe I’m reading into things too much, however the perception does seem like that. Now to say this is changing for changing sake, is complete unawareness of marketing and brand trends. Positioning the brand for the next generations/stay relevant is the very reason why brands/teams have tweaked and adjusted their logos. To essentially modernize it to make it more profitable. Whether you agree with that or not, it’s the reality. Its also possible that we have a timeless logo that doesn’t require change, …but I believe we don’t have that.

I wonder what’s the age demographic that dominates this vote… Not saying we need a completely new design, but it does need an improvement. Every federation has made a change to their logo in the past 5 years. Why are we so adverse to change? …..especially with the limited history of success.

Just shows the bullshit. I said “so Tajon is good enough to be in the best XI, but not good enough to win the YPotY award. Shows the inconsistencies. Americans will say “overall the quality of the forward position is high” 🙄

I definitely did. And I think a few others did as well. Its funny, because I literally was telling my wife about this forum (as she sees it open) . I was telling her a disagreement story of how I was comparing him to somebody else, and was ridiculed because “his career was just starting” - now look at him. However I would still agree with the Kamal pick, he was in the team/had caps previous to this year, so he had something to improve on. If we remember, he was behind Derek prior to 2021. It’s crazy to think that Tajon had his first appearance in any Canada jersey… this year. Same thing can be said about Alistair, who’s been an ironman.

Again, I’ll say it was a sign of the times. (In regards to the guys playing for the NT - just go look at the roster) You still never listed a guy that was publicly sought over like Akinola, Alvarez, Zendejas, Ochoa, ….now Flores. Aird was never going to play for Scotland. Bustos was doing positioning. Aleman was already in our system. again the main point was “Nations fighting over duals, to then not give them adequate opportunities” .

Literally this 🤣. Enjoy your holidays, and it’ll be back sooner than we think. I do hope when qualifying is over we still play friendlies in between the nations league matches.

Think you missed the main point being….”Nations fighting over duals, to then not give them adequate opportunities”. None of the guys you mentioned were actual real targets from their duel nation - maybe ZBG? I’ll also disagree that those guys you mentioned were only capped on their potential. It was actual just a sign of the times, go look at the roster. I follow a lot of young guys in Concacaf, Lainez (21) has been a top talent. Had a great performance in the nations league finals, he just struggling at Betis but I’m sure he’s good enough to be in the squad over some of those old guys. Efrain Alvarez had an alright year with the Galaxy for a 19yo. He was the guy included in 2x in both the US and Mexicos rosters for the Olympics and Gold Cup. A creative number 10, which Mexico didn’t have against us. capped and disappeared like some of my friends. Vega was one of the stars at the Olympics. Zendejas made his debut at like 15 with FC Dallas. Again another Alvarez type situation.

Let's get it rolling. I don't know how the management of donating would be. Are you able to sticky the thread as well?

Missed the gold cup through injury, not from resting - is important to note. Thought about top 5...but then I thought, for what. It would only make this even more harder, and an even greater possibility for ties. This is for the best player award, not our top ranked players.

CPL...he needs a regular run of games.

I have a feeling this year it might be shared or very damn close.

Done. realized that's how it was done previous years as well didn't mean to switch things up. I'll update it, and add when the teams go on their breaks. (now this thread may have been overzealous 😁 - forgive me)

I did that on purpose as that would be considered the "2021" season for his club. I only used 2021 for the national team. It's based on season, and not just calendar year for the clubs. It would be unfair to mix in results of two seasons for the European guys IMO - but this is "our" vote, and I'l change it if thats the general consensus.

wait what...maybe I was misunderstood. I wasn't saying that going to the Canadian Premier League your career is pretty much over. I was implying that in reference to going to the Canadian Soccer League (which the user mistakenly said).

An idea, maybe we can chip in and get an award designed (respectfully not a glass Wilson trophy) and present it to the winner in Hamilton?