jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Another way this tournament was rigged for Argentina: they had a rest advantage in their quarterfinal and semifinal match. Nobody else can say the same. canucksfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasi Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I think that Kone was very good tonight. He will me fantastic in 26. I'm very concerned for David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, Free kick said: Really? He just wasnt as terrible as he was in the other games. Thats all. I dont get the hyperbole here IN the first half, he demonstrated both better passing decision making, as well as the initiative to move forward with the ball. He was incisive...furthest thing from reactive. Maybe didn't make any mistakes? Not sure In the 2nd half, I don't remember that type of play at all. Definitely an improvement on his last starts. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I really hope we get to see some alternatives to Larin-David. They worked hard but their job is to score, not only work hard. Larin is at the peak of his power and against the best he's middling. Canuckia, clamlinguine and DeRo_Is_King 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miche Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Anyone know how seriously the third place match is taken in copa? We'll want to win it desperately, but will the other side play all their starters? jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 the gradual phasing out of larin must begin immediately marsch got many decisions right in this tournament but got it wrong at striker...he still gets an a- strong tournament congrats to marsch and the team Canuckia and Borjans Sweatpants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, Vasi said: I think that Kone was very good tonight. He will me fantastic in 26. I'm very concerned for David. David was gassed and the service also was poor. Had some poor touches, but no actual chances came his way in any case. gator and jhoops__ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Not a surprising result against the best team in the world, we can definitely learn a lot from these games and we have one more to play against another top team! I was pleasantly surprised with the subs although Argentina were pretty much home and dried when most came in, I hope we have no serious injuries, I do expect JM to rotate the squad in the 3rd place match! 74 Whitecap, clamlinguine and YorkRegionFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Nothing surprising about the end result obviously. It’s hard to take too much from the last 30 minutes when Argentina was clearly on cruise control but some of the subs looked good (Ahmed, Choiniere, Oso). Effort was good until the very end. very naive defending on the first goal by Bombito but I don’t think you can be too upset overall defensively. obviously the ultimate problem is how poor our chance creation and conversion is. Not really sure what our options are against an elite squad like Argentina - we just don’t have the horses to threaten them. A combined 0 goals against Netherlands, France and Argentina x 2, tells you how far away we are. jhoops__, gator and YorkRegionFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eramosat said: IN the first half, he demonstrated both better passing decision making, as well as the initiative to move forward with the ball. He was incisive...furthest thing from reactive. Maybe didn't make any mistakes? Not sure In the 2nd half, I don't remember that type of play at all. Definitely an improvement on his last starts. Thats a very fair comment you made. I can agree with that. But the original comment that i responded to suggests that he was super star out there. I have seen this far too much here over many years, where someone has decent game or even an average game and suddenly this/that player is viewed as the second coming. Edited July 10 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, Miche said: Anyone know how seriously the third place match is taken in copa? We'll want to win it desperately, but will the other side play all their starters? I hope we rotate. I want to see something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 4 minutes ago, Free kick said: Really? He just wasnt as terrible as he was in the other games. Thats all. I dont get the hyperbole here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancanman Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 minutes ago, jonovision said: Also need quotes around "fans" as well. Unless a fan is someone who films themselves on their phone for 90 minutes. I don't disagree. I considered "Argentinian" fans, Argentinian "fans" and "Argentinian fans," but couldn't decide which to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, Miche said: Anyone know how seriously the third place match is taken in copa? We'll want to win it desperately, but will the other side play all their starters? I mean, there is money on the line. rkomar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowe Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 We lack quality in the final third. Never more obvious than against top level teams. Hopefully we learn from this experience. Still something to play for on the weekend. jhoops__ and Free kick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, VinceA said: I hope we rotate. I want to see something different. You want to see Kyle Hiebert out there against Colombia or Uruguay? Obinna, DeRo_Is_King, king1010 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) Honestly I understand the excitement and the high expectations, but wow it feels people don’t know who Argentina is. Once they got the lead, they went into cruise control which I think helped the confidence of our players later in the game. But this is a team that’s lost 2 times out of their past 65 games or something. They have more trophies (3) than they have losses (2) in the past 5 years and we’re berating our players. Guess what? When we play top teams in top competitions, everything becomes more difficult. Im proud of our boys. Argentina plays top 10 nations regularly and we gave a good run. Overall a much improved performance in comparison to our first game. Edited July 10 by Corazon gator, Free kick, jonovision and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, gator said: Not a surprising result against the best team in the world, we can definitely learn a lot from these games and we have one more to play against another top team! I was pleasantly surprised with the subs although Argentina were pretty much home and dried when most came in, I hope we have no serious injuries, I do expect JM to rotate the squad in the 3rd place match! Just now, Free kick said: Thats a very fair comment you made. But that the original comment i responded suggest that he was super star out there. Correct! Didn't mean to suggest otherwise. Not a super-star...but certainly back in the right place for starting CANMNT duties, which looked in jeopardy early in COPA. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, mowe said: We lack quality in the final third. Never more obvious than against top level teams. Hopefully we learn from this experience. Still something to play for on the weekend. Need to figure out why a guy with 70 plus ligue 1 goals isnt clicking in our set up. I think him and Larin cant play off each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, canuckgbp said: Is this an early celebration for a big Shaf move I'm not aware of, or is a shitstorm coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I don’t really get the criticisms of Larin tonight. He was going a ton of stuff off the ball. I get that he didn’t score one but he created a few quality opportunities. I also don’t think we lost because of the ref. Yeah he missed the foul on Richie but that goal is our fault. Bombito needs to do better in that play. Two of our biggest players - David and Davies - were really quiet this game (though David had a great chance off Alistair’s throw in). 74 Whitecap, king1010, Obinna and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, Corazon said: Honestly I understand the excitement and the high expectations, but wow it feels people don’t know who Argentina is. Once they got the lead, they went into cruise control which I think helped the confidence of our players later in the game. But this is a team that’s lost 2 times out of their past 65 games or something. They have more trophies (3) than they have losses (2) in the past 5 years and we’re berating our players. Guess what? When we play top teams in top competitions, everything becomes more difficult. Im proud of our boys. Argentina plays too 10 nations regularly and we gave a good run. Overall a much improved performance in comparison to our first game. Bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, jonovision said: You want to see Kyle Hiebert out there against Colombia or Uruguay? In a sick sort of way, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 1 minute ago, king1010 said: Need to figure out why a guy with 70 plus ligue 1 goals isnt clicking in our set up. I think him and Larin cant play off each other. Because we are playing him as a midfielder 75% of the time. Don't forget he scored the most important goal of the tournament. Edited July 10 by jonovision sose, gator, king1010 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 12 minutes ago, canuckgbp said: Marsch with the ole bear hug for Kone And it wasn't recipricated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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