dyslexic nam Posted Wednesday at 11:53 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:53 PM 1 minute ago, 74 Whitecap said: To elaborate, in the 1st half, Ecuador's 2nd goal comes on a penalty for handball, then, with Jamaica trailing 2-1 in the 2nd half, a very similar (but a little more blatant) handball by Ecuador goes to VAR but the referee inexplicably decides not to give a penalty. If they want Copa to rival Euro for popularity, they need to improve the standard of refereeing. With inexplicable VAR decisions piling up in favour of CONMEBOL teams at the expense of CONCACAF, it starts to look a little dodgy. I think they were both somewhat marginal. I do think it was harder to see the contact on the 2nd reviewed incident. And for me there is one big difference - the first play involved the Jamaican player blocking a header that was bound for goal and may have actually snuck into the corner. The second review involved the ball going away from the net with no immediate threat of goal. That may not be seen as relevant by everyone but in cases where there is some discretion I think it factors in. Kusch to the Corner and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted Wednesday at 11:57 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:57 PM 3 minutes ago, 74 Whitecap said: They called him, he looked and looked, but apparently didn't see. And when he made the announcement of why, his mic wasn't working, lol. Thats wild. The fact that they told him to review means they thought he made a clear and obvious mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted Wednesday at 11:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:59 PM Just now, king1010 said: Thats wild. The fact that they told him to review means they thought he made a clear and obvious mistake. They were right, he did, lol. I mean, it's Jamaica, I don't really care if they get screwed over, but it is kind of embarrassing for Copa. I guess the only plus is if people get the idea the fix is in for CONMEBOL maybe we will get some calls we wouldn't normally get to counteract that impression in the game against Chile :) Ivan, Canuckia and Cadeau 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted Thursday at 12:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:13 AM jamaica cant do much in these competitions as they have fight themselves (or their federation) on top of the opponent...but again this is why u gotta have eustaquio wearing the armband and being in the refs face all game...garay the chilean ref felt no pressure on him then var called him and he easily quietly simply said no penalty and on as you were...wanna believe it or not these things can make a difference...it shouldnt but sometimes it does 74 Whitecap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted Thursday at 12:18 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:18 AM Congratulations to Jamaica for getting their first Copa goal, that must have come as a relief after going scoreless in their first 7 matches. A shame for them that they are still looking for their first Copa win and point. Perhaps that will come against Venezuela just to annoy Alejandro Moreno gigi riva, rkomar, 74 Whitecap and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted Thursday at 12:30 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:30 AM 8 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Congratulations to Jamaica for getting their first Copa goal, that must have come as a relief after going scoreless in their first 7 matches. A shame for them that they are still looking for their first Copa win and point. Perhaps that will come against Venezuela just to annoy Alejandro Moreno Yeah. I was hoping Jamaica would beat Ecuador. Came close to a draw, but no penalty was awarded after a handball VAR check. Can't stand Ecuador due to the 2002 Gold Cup game. 74 Whitecap and king1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted Thursday at 12:33 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:33 AM 2 minutes ago, DeRo_Is_King said: Yeah. I was hoping Jamaica would beat Ecuador. Came close to a draw, but no penalty was awarded after a handball VAR check. Can't stand Ecuador due to the 2002 Gold Cup game. Old grudges are the best grudges... DeRo_Is_King, MtlMario and gator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted Thursday at 12:48 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:48 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, king1010 said: Its already sold out. Only resale avail. They already made their money. TV advertising revenue from viewer numbers means they still have bigger money to make. Mexico and Argentina are the two main draws, Argentina around the world and Mexico in the states. That's the reason for the crazy knockout bracket, designed to make sure one of them gets to the finals, and the reason why corrupt reffing has almost always resulting in either the US or Mexico making it to the Gold Cup finals (2000 final being the exception confounding CONCACAF). Edited Thursday at 12:49 AM by beachesl narduch, Cadeau, Ivan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted Thursday at 01:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:16 AM Venezuela looking aolid early versus Mexico Corazon, DeRo_Is_King, Canuckia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted Thursday at 02:25 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:25 AM Venezuela with the lead now on Mexico and in the drivers seat to take first place in the group. Which would set up a Venezuela v Canada quarter final if we advance. I prefer a new opponent to potentially facing Mexico again. xabuep2, Canuckia, PastPros and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted Thursday at 02:48 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:48 AM Wow. Mexico with the PK to potentially equalize, saved by Venezuela! Corazon, Canuckia, dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted Thursday at 02:57 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:57 AM (edited) Amazing finish. Looks like if we can pull it off we'd be playing Venezuela in Arlington Edited Thursday at 02:58 AM by SpursFlu Corazon, 74 Whitecap, Floortom and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted Thursday at 02:58 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:58 AM First time Venezuela has beaten Mexico since 1982 Canuckia, Watchmen and Mihairokov 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM 2 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Amazing finish. Looks like if we can pull it off we'd be playing Venezuela in Houston I suppose Ecuador or Mexico could still top the group. Venezuela might rotate vs Jamaica, but the prize for 2nd in group B is most likely a date with Argentina in the Q-Finals, so I would think they would do everything they can to avoid that match-up for as long as possible and it will only take a draw vs Jamaica to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:02 AM Canada v Venezuela in front of 1,500 in a 80,000 seat stadium. They will be paying us to show up. Mihairokov, gigi riva, EJsens1 and 10 others 2 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted Thursday at 03:03 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:03 AM Just now, JamboAl said: Canada v Venezuela in front of 1,500 in a 80,000 seat stadium. They will be paying us to show up. If they subsidize my flight, I am in. I could be like one of those yes-men hired for Qatar. Canuckia, Kusch to the Corner, The Real Marc and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted Thursday at 03:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:14 AM (edited) 13 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Canada v Venezuela in front of 1,500 in a 80,000 seat stadium. They will be paying us to show up. I actually think Venezuela is one of the bigger draws of the tournament. The semis is set for NJ. That would be full of Venezuelans. But of course they would lose to us 😉 On the flip side. With the potential of Mexico Argentina looming at 72k Houston I wouldn't be going in to tackles too hard if I'm Ecuador if you pick up what I'm putting down Edited Thursday at 03:16 AM by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted Thursday at 11:46 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:46 AM 9 hours ago, masster said: Venezuela with the lead now on Mexico and in the drivers seat to take first place in the group. Which would set up a Venezuela v Canada quarter final if we advance. I prefer a new opponent to potentially facing Mexico again. Venezuela looked pretty good imo dyslexic nam, The Real Marc, JamboAl and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted Thursday at 04:59 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:59 PM 5 hours ago, mpg_29 said: Venezuela looked pretty good imo Rondon who scored the goal, missed the far post by inches on 2 other strikes. Ecuador also was impressive vs Jamaica. They have a lot of pace and skill. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Feel sorry for the players of Bolivia who may be worried about their families due to the military coup in their country. rkomar, Canuckia, narduch and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted Thursday at 05:27 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:27 PM 12 minutes ago, The Ref said: Feel sorry for the players of Bolivia who may be worried about their families due to the military coup in their country. They had a coup 5 years ago. They had a president rip up their constitution to illegally remain president. I think its old hat for them at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted Thursday at 06:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:43 PM 1 hour ago, Kadenge said: Rondon who scored the goal, missed the far post by inches on 2 other strikes. Ecuador also was impressive vs Jamaica. They have a lot of pace and skill. Rondon still kicking around apparently. Always a tough costumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBR Posted Thursday at 07:03 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:03 PM 16 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Rondon still kicking around apparently. Always a tough costumer. Yefferson Saltedo showed his quality as well. He can be scary. Too bad he hated TFC and MLS. He is quick and seems more mature on the pitch now. Corazon, WestHamCanadianinOxford, Club Linesman and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM USA v Panama is coming up at 6pm ET. On Fox and TSN DeRo_Is_King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted Thursday at 10:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:04 PM 22 minutes ago, narduch said: USA v Panama is coming up at 6pm ET. On Fox and TSN Always a good matchup. narduch and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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