Mihairokov Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Winners of the CPL U21 Player of the Year Award: Borges, Farsi, Hojabrpour, Rea, de Brienne Finalists of the CPL U21 Player of the Year include: Abzi, Campbell, Loturi, Ferrari, de Rosario, Pacius, Poku If the players above have not transferred out of the league they have become top players in the league. I'd say the U21 initiative is working entirely as intended. K Edgar, longlugan, maccaliam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 14 minutes ago, Mihairokov said: Winners of the CPL U21 Player of the Year Award: Borges, Farsi, Hojabrpour, Rea, de Brienne Finalists of the CPL U21 Player of the Year include: Abzi, Campbell, Loturi, Ferrari, de Rosario, Pacius, Poku If the players above have not transferred out of the league they have become top players in the league. I'd say the U21 initiative is working entirely as intended. All of these players would have been important figures in their teams without a rule mandating their play. They were good CPL players at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 It is easy to say that really good rookies deserve the minutes they got so don't need a rule, but maybe they don't get a chance to show how good they are without the rule? There are probably a lot of rookies out there that would get stapled to the bench after a couple of inexperienced mistakes if the team wasn't forced to play them more. ImYourKeeper, Kadenge, Ivan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Mihairokov said: Winners of the CPL U21 Player of the Year Award: Borges, Farsi, Hojabrpour, Rea, de Brienne Finalists of the CPL U21 Player of the Year include: Abzi, Campbell, Loturi, Ferrari, de Rosario, Pacius, Poku If the players above have not transferred out of the league they have become top players in the league. I'd say the U21 initiative is working entirely as intended. 1 hour ago, Aird25 said: All of these players would have been important figures in their teams without a rule mandating their play. They were good CPL players at that time Without the u21 rule some of these players would not have been scouted and/or given the minutes to prove they could start in the CanPL. ImYourKeeper, Dominic94 and Mihairokov 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 17 minutes ago, K Edgar said: Without the u21 rule some of these players would not have been scouted and/or given the minutes to prove they could start in the CanPL. Which one of them? I strongly disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 2 hours ago, Aird25 said: Which one of them? I strongly disagree Tell that to Oliver Gage, guy got a lot of pushback on that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 23 hours ago, Aird25 said: I still hate this rule, and I haven't yet seen any evidence to suggest it's having any positive intended effects. Pacific's best players this season have been U21, but they weren't given minutes because of their age. They were given minutes because they were the best choice on a bad roster. I would have far rather supported a club that weren't bottom of the table though Fair enough. By the same token and for the same reason, MLS teams shouldn't have to play Canadian players, people shouldn't be upset when they don't, and we should be removing the "mandatory minimum Canadians" in the Voyageurs Cup. After all, the best players will be given the minutes, regardless of their nationality. Mihairokov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 28 games * 90 minutes * 11 players = 27720 2000 / 27720 = 7.2% of minutes must be a U21 Canadian -or- must average 1 U21 Cdn on the field for 79% of each game... not too restrictive imho. Mihairokov and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 The rule is good for growing the pool of Canadian players, but I'm sure that it is really there because the league sees the business opportunity of selling these players on when they show promise. It is about the money and forcing the clubs to play along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 Kadenge and K Edgar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 “Clinched” is an interesting and weird word to use in this context. Not entirely wrong, but has connotations of having won something, as opposed to satisfying a requirement. masster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Club Total U-21 Minutes Pacific FC -21 3,601 (+208) York United FC - 22 2,427 (+17) Vancouver FC - 22 2,002 (+187) Forge FC - 22 1,680 (+1) Valour FC -22 1,631 (+40) Cavalry FC -22 1,595 (+40) Atlético Ottawa -22 1,574 (+135) Halifax Wanderers FC - 21 1,291 (+277) YorkRegionFan, K Edgar and Kingston 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Remaining minutes per game needed Forge = 53.3 Valour = 61.5 Cavalry = 67.5 Ottawa = 71 Halifax = 101.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Is it the same teams every season that struggle to meet this requirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 4 hours ago, Aird25 said: Is it the same teams every season that struggle to meet this requirement? Last year was York and HFX. This year York hit it no problem. Guess it will vary when teams that have prominent U21 players that become U22 and lose all those minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 The year Ottawa won the regular season they were the last time to hit this I think. Usually the worst team in the league isn't the last time to reach it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihairokov Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Yes, HFX are in the unique position of being very bad with old(er) players narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted Tuesday at 11:45 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:45 AM (edited) Club Total U-21 Minutes Pacific FC - 22 3,876 (+275) York United FC - 23 2,504 (+77) Vancouver FC - 23 2,293 (+291) Forge FC - 23 1,761 (+81) Valour FC - 23 1,677 (+46) Atlético Ottawa - 23 1,664 (+90) Cavalry FC - 23 1,627 (+32) Halifax Wanderers FC - 22 1,408 (+117) Forge - 47.8 minutes per game Valour - 64.6 minutes per game Ottawa - 67.2 minutes per game Cavalry - 74.6 minutes per game HFX - 98.7 minutes per game Edited Tuesday at 11:49 AM by rydermike Kingston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted Tuesday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:19 PM As long as Jefferson Alphonse stays healthy HFX should make the threshold, but I think Cavalry might struggle to hit the target down the stretch. Happy to see Sami K get two starts (and two wins) at PFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trois Reds Posted Tuesday at 01:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:21 PM What a weird stat this week - top and bottom add 22 minutes, every one else 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted Tuesday at 01:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:22 PM Nope. That’s games played. Minutes are to the right. Sonny Heung-min 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted Tuesday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:30 PM Pretty much every team has at least one starter quality U21 (or at least close enough) besides Forge and Cavalry. Forge had sold theirs (Poku) but Cavalry never really had one (Dias was a bust, Henry could have been but injuries sidelined him, Wright isn’t quite starter material despite early potential, now they’ve added Herdman but can’t see him walking into the starting eleven for any reason other than making up the 2000 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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