Watchmen Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 14 hours ago, CDNFootballer said: ^^^ Wait.........can't remember how your CPL attendance conspiracy theory works, are the blue dots good or bad in your micro parrots mind? Ah shoot, whatever, we'll just wait for your mention of the partial crowd shot 4-5 minutes into the game before everyone gets to their seats and your silly fractional formulas of how this should look like that for this and so and so to be credible numbers. Don't forget to mention its in the context of something that happened 30-40 years ago by the Toronto Metro's Croatia or some bs like that, always makes it funnier! CDNFootballer and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 54 minutes ago, Ivan said: I actually thought the crowd looked pretty good for a typical Valour game? 🤷 3,032 Ivan and CDNFootballer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ivan said: I actually thought the crowd looked pretty good for a typical Valour game? 🤷 Don't know why they use the far end sections for seating past the goal line though, makes everyone more spaced out and makes it look like there's even less fans in the big stadium. The teams gotta configure the stadium to their crowd size better. Edited June 15 by CDNFootballer red card and Stanley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 4 hours ago, Ivan said: I actually thought the crowd looked pretty good for a typical Valour game? 🤷 Wrong thread Stanley, longlugan, MtlMario and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 5640 just announced in Ottawa which looks broadly reasonable. A "euros celebration" theme seems to have done the job whatever that entailed. The active sections in the lower bowl on the camera side are obviously close to full and there is a small overspill into the lowest part of the stand on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 19 hours ago, K Edgar said: 3,032 Is that the updated number of people on the Weirdo's ignore list? PegCityCam, CDNFootballer, red card and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) 19 hours ago, CDNFootballer said: Don't know why they use the far end sections for seating past the goal line though, makes everyone more spaced out and makes it look like there's even less fans in the big stadium. The teams gotta configure the stadium to their crowd size better. It’s tough when you play in a massive stadium no matter what you do it will always look empty even with 5000 in attendance , in a perfect world every team would be playing in smaller venues appropriate to the expected attendance the teams get but we don’t, it is what it is . Edited June 16 by SoccMan CDNFootballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) No league website number, but 6281 was apparently announced for Vancouver vs Cavalry in Kelowna: The bleacher seating that was added and standing room areas appeared close to full despite the weather so there is no obvious reson to question that. Provides more evidence that if the league let go of the fantasy scenario of displacing MLS there is a niche to be filled in midsized regional markets where junior hockey is a major draw in the winter months but there is nothing much happening in pro sports terms in the summer. One lesson that needs to be learned from Halifax though is that one of the reasons things went a lot better with the Wanderers in comparison to the Nova Scotia Clippers is that they were allowed access to a piece of municipal land in a prime location where they could build a pop-up modular stadium around a full-sized pro level soccer pitch. In contrast, the Clippers tried to shoehorn soccer into a high school gridiron type venue in Dartmouth and it had a negative effect on the quality of the soccer in a similar way to what we saw at the Apple Bowl: Stephen Hart does the colour commentary in this clip back when his King of Donair involvement was launching him on the trajectory that led twenty eight years later to coaching the Wanderers in their debut game. Edited June 17 by Ozzie_the_parrot BigBadBorto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) York vs Pacific announced as 844: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a4qw63s8wxkzztndt1n37t5w4/highlights Unusual but not unprecedented for them to announce in three digits. Playing at home on the same weeknight as TFC (whose crowd looked less than stellar by their standards) during the Euros was probably not the smartest scheduling decision. Edited June 20 by Ozzie_the_parrot Kingston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 On 6/16/2024 at 11:55 PM, Ozzie_the_parrot said: No league website number, but 6281 was apparently announced for Vancouver vs Cavalry in Kelowna: The bleacher seating that was added and standing room areas appeared close to full despite the weather so there is no obvious reson to question that. I'll question it. The grandstand seats 1054 and the bleacher seating on the opposite side (which are always there) seats 1200. They did add bleachers behind the goals and there were people standing, but there is no way there were over 6,000 there. Good crowd, but not anywhere near 6,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Latest quasi-official numbers: Aird25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) No website number for the Cavalry vs Ottawa game: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a55fxd6wvae9hjsnx1tc6bl78/highlights but the main stand was unusually full (maybe 70%?) so easy to believe it was 4000+ overall. Edit: Minor Soccer Appreciation Night apparently: https://calgaryherald.com/sports/cavalry-to-salute-citys-minor-soccer-programs-during-key-cpl-match Edited June 22 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I find it impossible to rationalize how the Forge could be anywhere near the announced 6231 for the Valour game: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a5k7i3q2brcxg8vvpocd268es/highlights even half that is a stretch in actual terms from what is readily visible in the highlights. No number on the website yet for Vancouver vs Halifax: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a5yvpvlmd78cyi1jgxo1uerro/highlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) Latest quasi-official numbers: That Vancouver number is almost as difficult to take seriously as the Forge one but at least they are not announcing at significantly higher than the capacity that appears to be in use this season. Edited June 27 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOnFire Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Over 160 posts on a thread to discuss the legitimacy of attendances... Canadian Soccer... 🤣 MtlMario, Bbeto and Ivan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 3 hours ago, StillOnFire said: Over 160 posts on a thread to discuss the legitimacy of attendances... Canadian Soccer... 🤣 Yeah, but it's basically 50% one angry poster and 50% people mocking them Bbeto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 On 6/24/2024 at 8:17 AM, Ozzie_the_parrot said: I find it impossible to rationalize how the Forge could be anywhere near the announced 6231 for the Valour game: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a5k7i3q2brcxg8vvpocd268es/highlights even half that is a stretch in actual terms from what is readily visible in the highlights. It was a pretty good crowd, but nowhere near capacity. Strange thing they do, every once in a while they open the section on the far end, beyond the supporters section. Normally it's covered, but then no one sits there. It's as if they're prepping for walk-ups and the rest of the seats are filled. Are most of the empty seats paid for and just no shows, or is it just attendance theatre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) My pet theory is that some of the money from league sponsors gets converted into ticket sales across the league but I am basically mystified by what happens with the Forge because York, Cavalry and Atletico announced numbers are usually only about 500 or so higher than I would expect based on eyeballing while Forge announced crowds are often 3000 or so higher. Whatever they are doing isn't standard practice across the league. Edit: all I can find for announced numbers from last night because there is nothing on the league website yet: Edited June 28 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftduck Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I judge attendance at Forge games throught the 50/50 draw lol. Below $2000, shitty turn out. $2500 average. Pushing $3000 and above, better than usual. Last game I think was around $2700 but could be wrong, I don't usually buy tickets. Anyway here is my captain obvious take on Forge's inflated attendance. Drove by the stadium during the last Ti cat game and was a bit shocked how many seats were empty. Next day read the announced attendance was 22 000. Not a chance unless there were A LOT of people still in the concourse areas. Earlier this month read an article regarding how much the Ti cat franchise was worth. Believe it was $50 000 000 and that people were shocked and pleased that it was that much. Is Mr. Young inflating the attendance on paper to inflate the worth of his teams? If he does this for the next 5 years will Forge be worth significantly more? My 2 cents and probably won't comment on it again. Don't really care either way. I'm just gonna watch in person as long as this league exists.... https://www.thespec.com/sports/hamilton-region/what-does-the-ticats-forge-new-ownership-structure-all-mean/article_5baad33b-7729-547b-abf3-95fe14466a63.html#:~:text=The exact sale price will,pleased%2C everyone in the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Ottawa vs Forge was announced as 5081: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a76en8ktkep2f68rzxwplvbpw/highlights No website number so far for the Halifax vs Cavalry game: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a7mz73w3g1sneuw9ghfl0e8es/highlights but close to a full house as per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 6 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Ottawa vs Forge was announced as 5081: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a76en8ktkep2f68rzxwplvbpw/highlights No website number so far for the Halifax vs Cavalry game: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a7mz73w3g1sneuw9ghfl0e8es/highlights but close to a full house as per usual. Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Latest quasi-official numbers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Ottawa announce 5794: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a8uq9sb0hu8z3hgfipyiq7qxg/highlights Might be a bit high relative to a tickets scanned number because the endzone sections were not that full but 5000+ looked credible in a this is definitely not a Forge game because those more central sections are actually almost full sort of way. Suspect the Forge and York games were around 3000 and 500 actual but the announced numbers when they finally emerge will no doubt be significantly higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) No website number for the Valour game: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/a99fub58n3zf5k5og05op8xsk/highlights But hard to believe it was over 2000 actual given that would imply significantly over a quarter of the seats in the active sections in use. Edited July 8 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Forge vs TFC announced as 11341: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/8qe3n6qn3n8llh52w2daakqok/highlights both sides of the lower bowl appear to have been open for this one and weather became problematic so no obvious reason to question that. Meanwhile the Pacific game provides more evidence that the seating capacity at Starlight stadium is significantly under 6000. Crowd was announced as 5103: https://canpl.ca/matchcentre/7xhmu5h149bp6iafviufx72ms/highlights and the seats as would be anticipated were clearly very close to full when the game was in progress even with the scope for standing on the hydro pole side. Something to bear in mind when people are claiming eyeballing provides a misleading picture because 1500 people are hiding from the cameras up on a concourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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