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red card Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: I am surprised that we could even afford a drone, did that come out of the CSA budget or did this guy get his kid to build one in his basement? Because of winning Gold, Own the Podium funding gave the women's team almost $2.7m for Olympic prep and tournament play. Over the Paris quadrennial, the OTP funding was $8m. That's why there are 18 coaches and support staff in France which is 1:1 ratio with the 18 player squad. Plus, drone usage to get video on your team's training sessions has become standard given the rise of analytics. Edited July 24 by red card narduch and GasPed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, shermanator said: Canada are lucky to still be in this tournament. Priestman may not have directed this, but she needs to go. This will hang over the team no matter what result they achieve. And as is tradition, journalists like Rick Westhead and Bruce Arthur suddenly pop out of the woodwork. Westhead is legit, holding abusers to the fire gives him a bit of a pass to muckrake elsewhere. Arthur is a confused old man yelling at anything he doesn't understand Anyway: rkomar and mowe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 10 minutes ago, themodelcitizen said: Westhead is legit, holding abusers to the fire gives him a bit of a pass to muckrake elsewhere. Arthur is a confused old man yelling at anything he doesn't understand Anyway: This is JMHO, but I really don't think this is good enough. If I'm Canada Soccer, I either put out a statement saying we've already done an internal investigation and are satisfied the action was limited to two individuals conducting completely unauthorized actions with no knowledge of others, or I send the entire coaching staff home and run the tournament with interim coaches while I do the investigation. Conducting the investigation while the tournament is going on is not only a huge distraction, it also casts a huge cloud over the games and the results. What if Priestman and co. win the gold, only to find three weeks later that they're all guilty of cheating and we have to fire them all? Do we have to give back the medals? As I understand it, FIFA is also conducting an investigation. And yes, Herdman was accused of the same thing back in 2021. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/honduras-canada-drone-spy-world-cup-qualifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Spying on the opposition is one thing, but these geniuses really deployed a drone in a no-fly zone at the freaking Olympics. Life must be interesting with such a smooth brain. DoyleG, lamptern, Ivan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick P Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I'm not sure what the pathway is for Priestman and the rest of the coaching staff to continue in their jobs after the Olympics Canuckia, Ivan and canucksfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 How would this work? FIFA is in charge of the Olympic tournament?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) Pretty cynical from NZ here as well. Ask for them to be removed from the games if you want them to be sanctioned. Not an outcome which only benefits you and not your other group opponents. Edited July 24 by jonovision Canuckia, Ivan and canucksfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I'd like to know how he brought that drone to France in the first place? "anything to declare?" "no". 😁 gator, gigi riva, Canuckia and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Priestman was asked directly, did you know about it and she didn't answer. So, I guess she knew. What are the chances this is the first time Bev has done this? Pretty slim. And when you add the rumblings about Herdman you start to wonder if this cheating is something we've done a lot of. Not a good look. Ivan, gator and TOcanadafan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMo Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Blast from the recent past. Barely got any attention😀 RJB, narduch, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 50 minutes ago, RJB said: Priestman was asked directly, did you know about it and she didn't answer. So, I guess she knew. What are the chances this is the first time Bev has done this? Pretty slim. And when you add the rumblings about Herdman you start to wonder if this cheating is something we've done a lot of. Not a good look. Is this actually true? All I saw was her statement "By no means did I direct the individuals. I'm still learning the details and obviously this is all unfolding..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomoxis Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 hours ago, jonovision said: Pretty cynical from NZ here as well. Ask for them to be removed from the games if you want them to be sanctioned. Not an outcome which only benefits you and not your other group opponents. Canada not getting any points for a result against NZ can benefit any of the group members, not just NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, RJB said: Priestman was asked directly, did you know about it and she didn't answer. So, I guess she knew. What are the chances this is the first time Bev has done this? Pretty slim. And when you add the rumblings about Herdman you start to wonder if this cheating is something we've done a lot of. Not a good look. Not necessarely, there is such a thing as professional negligence. I.e., she could very well not be guilty of authorizing it but to not have to crossed her Ts to prevent something like this, which a coach at her level is REALLY responsible for doing, and that would be more then enough to justify her firing in my book. At the very least its worth noting that from a legal standpoint, the French police took the admission of guilt from the drone operator that he acted out of his own initiative as credible and exonorated anyone else from it, which would make the argument that Priestman's main sin is to have failed to prevent it rather than ordering it. As for the old Honduras stuff... Considering all the distasteful stuff that happens when we are there and that their federation is seemingly ok with (as I don't believe they have done anything to prevent it) and how I have seen their fans and media being big on projection I'll just assume its an instance of the later and that the alignment with something bad someone did for the CWNT is pure coincidence until Honduras or someone else can provide concrete evidences of their claim that has yet to be forthcoming. Edited July 24 by phil03 rkomar and TOcanadafan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 After the Olympics, the entire Women's coaching staff has to be replaced. Anything less would mean approval of these actions by the CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 7 hours ago, Mihairokov said: They obviously couldn’t afford a lookout person to tell the drone guy to “abort”. I kinda want to know how he got caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Murray Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 How could Priestman not know about it? What would be the point of going to those lengths for drone footage if the Head Coach didnt go over it when preparing for match? I'm not buying that this stopped at Assistant Coach. YorkRegionFan and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 minute ago, Admiral Murray said: How could Priestman not know about it? What would be the point of going to those lengths for drone footage if the Head Coach didnt go over it when preparing for match? I'm not buying that this stopped at Assistant Coach. I could see a scenario where the random dude, or the assistant coach, thought they were showing initiative and that Priestman would just accept it when they would arrive with the footing, perhaps be rewarded for taking personal risks. There are people like that, sadly... Which isn't to say Priestman didn't know, or that she wouldn't hold responsibility for creating a work environment where someone could think that kind of behavior would be welcome, but we should assume guilt IMO. Admiral Murray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_S Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Priestman should be fired immediately IMO. Taints our entire Olympic team, not just the soccer entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) I think the players' opinions matter most here. For all we know, they back Priestman and would be demoralized with her and the other coaches being sacked. Are we ready to throw away this Olympics for them for the sake of optics? There is no way they are going to win with a fresh slate of coaches and trainers who don't even know them. Edited July 25 by rkomar Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Saw Bev’s response to the media questions about her knowledge - she equivocated in response. She apologized and took responsibility but never really answered the question. Word salad out of Herdman’s book. Obinna, GasPed, lamptern and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 It's nice to see we are still very much Canadian and hold onto the virtues of fair play and sportsmanship. Not the coaching staff, I mean the fans. YorkRegionFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Why spy on New Zealand, what do they have. BearcatSA and MtlMario 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 hours ago, phil03 said: Which isn't to say Priestman didn't know, or that she wouldn't hold responsibility for creating a work environment where someone could think that kind of behavior would be welcome, but we should assume guilt IMO. Well, the scenarios are: 1) She did know what her staff were doing and thus was a party to and ultimately responsible for the cheating, or; 2) She didn't know what her staff were doing, which reflects poorly on her leadership, especially since they were engaged in bald-faced cheating. Either way, as someone else said, I don't know how Priestman can continue - either she's a cheater or she's grossly incompetent. YorkRegionFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 8 hours ago, GasPed said: Is this actually true? All I saw was her statement "By no means did I direct the individuals. I'm still learning the details and obviously this is all unfolding..." It was an interview on the TSN website, I can't find it now. It didn't sound like a TSN reporter that I recognize. They asked if she knew about it, and just went straight into an apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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