WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Brave decision by Spain using Navas against France's speed. Over two years ago now his lack of closing down/ability to stick with his man were instrumental in both the goals that knocked Sevilla out of the Europa League. No prizes for guessing why I watched those goals happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 So this Yamal kid is retiring as the undisputed greatest of all time, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) That was a deserved win, but again, France played a bit soft. Like against us. For such a physically prodigious team they really do not work on defense that much. They let the rival play, and then they don't really bite. It is odd considering the players they have. Spain did the easy possession game, got into attacking positions easily, have the two electric wingers, and then mids like Olmo and Fabián who are really skilled and have a modesty I like. The player I would point out is Morata, who was defending deep even early, dropping back to help the midfield, receiving and turning or finding fouls, a real leader on the pitch and an exemplary striker. Not the killer others are, but very mature and really committed to the team. Thanks TSN for blah, blah, blah about Lamine Yamal but just ignore that the maturity, positional play, taking a card, the total play, and physical and mental readiness at that age, is directly to do with coming through the Barcelona academy from a youngster. Let's just pretend that that does not exist. Edited July 9 by Unnamed Trialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Partisan as I am, I would not have given that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Partisan as I am, I would not have given that. Funny, because I hate England and I thought it should be given, admittedly a close call though WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 74 Whitecap said: Funny, because I hate England and I thought it should be given, admittedly a close call though Yeah maybe, I don't like a player being punished for another's follow-through but maybe he was high. Also I thought Simmons went onto Rice's ankle before the ball, so maybe even? Edited July 10 by WestHamCanadianinOxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 England are playing their best football since the Dutch goal, best we've seen them all tournament. And after theirs continuing to play in a dominant, vibrant way. Good time to wake up from the lethargy. Stanley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Speed kills, we saw that. Dutch will always be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Should be a good final. Please play the players that work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Forced to choose between cheering for England or Spain in the final, I'll watch baseball. WestHamCanadianinOxford and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 4 minutes ago, jonovision said: Forced to choose between cheering for England or Spain in the final, I'll watch baseball. Lost all respect for your sporting opinions. longlugan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Lost all respect for your sporting opinions. "Watching baseball" and "watching golf" is usually code for taking a nap on the couch! WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) On 7/6/2024 at 12:57 PM, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Not sure what happened here.... Edited July 10 by RJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 England's winning goal was the result of a dive that was given in their defensive end. I don't know who the defender is, but I think the Dutch player was Simons. It's why he was booked after the goal for whining about it. But then England took the kick and went and scored. That's really hard to stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RJB said: England's winning goal was the result of a dive that was given in their defensive end. I don't know who the defender is, but I think the Dutch player was Simons. It's why he was booked after the goal for whining about it. But then England took the kick and went and scored. That's really hard to stomach. And Simons raked down Rice's ankle before he took the ball for his. Overall, England deserved it. Edited July 10 by WestHamCanadianinOxford RJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 And the missed corner near the end was pretty obvious. It's tough to watch such an unimpressive team repeatedly get this far, but that's tournament football I guess. I think it will be a travesty for them to win this tournament against Spain. The only just result here is a Spanish dismantling of England. Unnamed Trialist and WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Just now, RJB said: And the missed corner near the end was pretty obvious. It's tough to watch such an unimpressive team repeatedly get this far, but that's tournament football I guess. One tournament maybe, but if it happens repeatedly, there is something there , no? Quality is shining through bad coaching and pressure. But our biases will cancel out and they will play it on the pitch. RJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Spain/England final...hoping England wins and it finally comes home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Despite all their silliness and actual stupidity sometimes this is part of what I enjoy about English fans GasPed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony7 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 31 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Spain/England final...hoping England wins and it finally comes home Keep dreaming. England have scraped by this whole tournament. With the easiest path to the final. That shit ends Sunday. This Spain team is levels above that Italy team they faced in the last Euro Final. Edited July 10 by anthony7 TGAA_Star, RJB, WestHamCanadianinOxford and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlugan Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 hours ago, anthony7 said: Keep dreaming. England have scraped by this whole tournament. With the easiest path to the final. That shit ends Sunday. This Spain team is levels above that Italy team they faced in the last Euro Final. Spain won't win without Jonathan Osorio. WestHamCanadianinOxford, 74 Whitecap, GasPed and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I think that while Spain has probably been more consistent, the final is at 50/50. In terms of talent, on paper, some would argue England is a bit better in terms of bigger players on bigger teams; but Spain is a better unit, and the players from less renowned clubs have stepped up in big ways. The five guys from Real Sociedad, that is really quite a story. But England is a kind of team that can get under Spain's skin if they push and use pace and intensity to break down the controlled system Spain plays. It is one of those game I could perfectly well imagine seeing England scoring first and Spain having to come back, like vs. France. And maybe even in a similar way, giving one up off a header or set piece. Spain methodically coming back. Most likely Spain will settle in better, it has two lethal wingers who will stretch the England back line, then the talent in the attacking mid to come find the chances. While Fabián and Olmo are not at the level of Bellingham, and Foden is a piece Spain don't have after Kroos was allowed to hunt down Pedri (by an English ref, no surprise), the AM is similar. The DM is similar even though you could argue Rodri is better. We'll see who goes as CB for Spain, none are world class, some make little errors, Le Normand makes dumb fouls, Laporte switches off at times. The keepers: I think Pickford is a bigger liability than many say and Simon is better in the details, like in distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony7 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, longlugan said: Spain won't win without Jonathan Osorio. I can guarantee you that England will choke like him though.🤣 Edited July 11 by anthony7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlugan Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 13 hours ago, anthony7 said: I can guarantee you that England will choke like him though.🤣 And we all know what you choke on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony7 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 53 minutes ago, longlugan said: And we all know what you choke on. Your mom’s titties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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