top cheese Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 you have to think where valour might be without throwing away the points they have this season and if they had the two signings from quebeac all year. the forward is dangerous every time hes on the ball 1v1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Flip side would be whether they would have as many points as they do now if certain other clubs hadn't viewed them as the prime opportunity to pad their U-21 minutes stats. Think Phil dos Santos deserves a lot of credit though and if the Valour are back next season (strongly suspect they will be) they would be crazy not to still have him around if he wants to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 14 hours ago, top cheese said: you have to think where valour might be without throwing away the points they have this season and if they had the two signings from quebeac all year. the forward is dangerous every time hes on the ball 1v1 I disagree about Kwemi. He's not afraid to take players on, but his success rate is not good and other parts of his game severely lacking. Mlah is a much less impressive player on the surface, but much smarter and has a bigger impact on things. As to Parrot's point about opponents using the matches to pad their U21 totals, I'd suggest he provide the evidence for the claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Evidence??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 12 hours ago, jonovision said: ...As to Parrot's point about opponents using the matches to pad their U21 totals, I'd suggest he provide the evidence for the claim. Alternatively you and your friend with the dodgy dated GIF should perhaps consult a dictionary at this point and try to determine what whether means in this context and what it implies. longlugan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 5 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Alternatively you and your friend with the dodgy dated GIF should perhaps consult a dictionary at this point and try to determine what whether means in this context and what it implies. It would be trivially easy to go through the box scores and compare the U21 minutes against Valour with U21 amounts against other opponents. I'd be happy to admit you're right but I'm not going to do the work for you. longlugan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 You really need to have it explained to you that I didn't actually claim anything in that regard and that the words whether and if should have made that clear to you? If I had wanted to claim something rather than simply raise that scenario as a possibility the wording would have been something like: Flip side would be that they would not have as many points as they do now because certain other clubs would no longer have viewed them as the prime opportunity to pad their U-21 minutes stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Flip side would be whether Mr Parrot would be such a dick if certain other posters hadn't viewed him as a huge troll. Think most posters deserves a lot of credit when they ignore him and if Mr parrot continues his shit season after season (strongly suspect he will) they would be crazy not to continue to continue ignoring him. See I stuck whether and if in there, so the rest of the insinuating insults I said are ok, get it now?? And remember he has said many times he has ignored me so he wont see this, so he wont respond unless he is some sort of troll who lies and lies. Sonny Heung-min 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 2 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: You really need to have it explained to you that I didn't actually claim anything in that regard and that the words whether and if should have made that clear to you? If I had wanted to claim something rather than simply raise that scenario as a possibility the wording would have been something like: Flip side would be that they would not have as many points as they do now because certain other clubs would no longer have viewed them as the prime opportunity to pad their U-21 minutes stats. I apologize if English isn't your first language, but in your original wording you leave the points total as a question for the reader (would Valour be worse?) but not the fact of other teams padding their U21 minutes. Quote Flip side would be whether they would have as many points as they do now if certain other clubs hadn't viewed them as the prime opportunity to pad their U-21 minutes stats. Frankly, if you didn't consider the U21 minutes-padding to be a likely scenario you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. And you are probably, to a degree, correct. Why not prove it? Sonny Heung-min 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) Viscosi CanPL Goalkeeper of the month??? This was the Valour's tweet but it was quickly deleted... https://x.com/ValourFootball/status/1844438027713630334 ... and it's back... (I guess tweeting before the CanPL tweet was bad form) Edited October 10 by K Edgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 what are the chances of getting jinxed and letting in a howler in the biggest game of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 ^ Shut up you,! Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted Sunday at 01:41 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:41 AM Valour Fc are doing their Fan Appreciation on October 19th. Fan Appreciation are great soccer events. Between the fans and the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted Sunday at 01:59 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:59 AM 15 minutes ago, ahmedou said: Valour Fc are doing their Fan Appreciation on October 19th. Fan Appreciation are great soccer events. Between the fans and the players. Hoping Valour is still in the playoff hunt for that game and not just the fight to avoid last place. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted Monday at 01:33 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:33 AM (edited) What does Valour need in the last weekend to make the playoffs?? Valour must win Pacific must lose Vancouver must not win Anything else? (Goal differential?) Edited Monday at 01:35 AM by K Edgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihairokov Posted Monday at 02:20 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:20 AM (edited) 47 minutes ago, K Edgar said: What does Valour need in the last weekend to make the playoffs?? Valour must win Pacific must lose Vancouver must not win Anything else? (Goal differential?) Believe it goes to head-to-head after points and wins. I'm not sure if they do GD in head-to-head after points in head-to-head but they're tied 2-2 in H2H results with Pacific. They need three matches including their own to go exactly as needed for that to be a factor, regardless. Edited Monday at 02:21 AM by Mihairokov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trois Reds Posted Monday at 04:53 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:53 AM 2 hours ago, Mihairokov said: Believe it goes to head-to-head after points and wins. I'm not sure if they do GD in head-to-head after points in head-to-head but they're tied 2-2 in H2H results with Pacific. They need three matches including their own to go exactly as needed for that to be a factor, regardless. Valour does have GD against Pacific 6-5, but yeah, all three results still have to go their way. K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted Monday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:29 PM 9 hours ago, Trois Reds said: Valour does have GD against Pacific 6-5, but yeah, all three results still have to go their way. Tie breaks are... 1. Total number of wins 2. Head-to-Head 3. Goal Differential 4. Goals For If Pacific lose and Valour win: 1. # wins - Pacific 8, Valour 8; 2. head-to-head 2-2 (Valour has +1 on goal differential head-to-head but that does not appear to matter); 3. goal differential currently Pacifc lead -6, -10; 4. goals for Valour lead 30, 26 So, Valour has to win and Pacific has to lose AND by a combined margin of 4 goals!?! Trois Reds and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted Monday at 03:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:16 PM (edited) Are you 100% certain that "Head-to-Head" only refers to points and not to goal difference over the four regular season games as well? It isn't explicitly stated on the league website: https://canpl.ca/article/canadian-premier-league-announces-updates-to-competition-guidelines-ahead-of-2024-season Total number of wins Head-to-Head* (New in 2024) Goal Differential Goals For Away goals differential Away goals for Home goals differential Home goals for Fewest Disciplinary Points* (New in 2024) Most Under-21 Domestic Player Minutes Coin toss (tie between two clubs) or drawing of lots (tie between three or more clubs) It probably means what you think it does but it's not particularly well drafted. Would have been easy to eliminate any ambiguity by wording it: 2. Points gained Head-to-Head Edited Monday at 03:16 PM by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:52 PM 32 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Are you 100% certain that "Head-to-Head" only refers to points and not to goal difference over the four regular season games as well? It isn't explicitly stated on the league website: https://canpl.ca/article/canadian-premier-league-announces-updates-to-competition-guidelines-ahead-of-2024-season Total number of wins Head-to-Head* (New in 2024) Goal Differential Goals For Away goals differential Away goals for Home goals differential Home goals for Fewest Disciplinary Points* (New in 2024) Most Under-21 Domestic Player Minutes Coin toss (tie between two clubs) or drawing of lots (tie between three or more clubs) It probably means what you think it does but it's not particularly well drafted. Would have been easy to eliminate any ambiguity by wording it: 2. Points gained Head-to-Head I am asking the same question. I am not certain. I am interpreting the stated rules and speculating that "2. Head-to-Head" does not include goal differential -- but also hoping that it does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trois Reds Posted Monday at 10:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:21 PM 6 hours ago, K Edgar said: I am asking the same question. I am not certain. I am interpreting the stated rules and speculating that "2. Head-to-Head" does not include goal differential -- but also hoping that it does! That's a pretty good question. I was assuming it did, but I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted Tuesday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:35 PM 16 hours ago, Trois Reds said: That's a pretty good question. I was assuming it did, but I don't know. If there were any diligent local beat reporters for Valour, it would a question they'd get clarified before the weekend. K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Managed to get this response from a CPL socials guy: narduch and K Edgar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Valour FC's sad tale of the (very few) players resigned from 2023... Williams - injured, has not played in 2024 (signed for 2025) Polisi - injured, recovered?, has not played in 2024 Haynes - 0 starts, 70 mins - used little in 2023, even less in 2024 Murasiranwa - 2 starts, 234 mins - used sparingly in 2023 and 2024 Samake - 3 starts, 270 mins - released early in the season Sanchez - 7 starts, 677 mins - less minutes than last year Ohin - 6 starts, 1140 mins - used mainly as a sub Campbell - 23 starts, 1998 mins - only regular starter in this list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted Tuesday at 06:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:35 PM I think you have to count Ohin as a "success" given his injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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