jonovision Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 He can get them playing decent and competitive football for stretches, but eventually the run of play tilts against them. You see this especially when both teams start making substitutions and the lack of depth of the Valour squad is really exposed. Say Valour and Pacific swapped bosses. Do you think they are essentially tied for the bottom places right now? I don't. K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, jonovision said: He can get them playing decent and competitive football for stretches, but eventually the run of play tilts against them. You see this especially when both teams start making substitutions and the lack of depth of the Valour squad is really exposed. Say Valour and Pacific swapped bosses. Do you think they are essentially tied for the bottom places right now? I don't. This!! Valour lack consistency. But, is that the coach or the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 11 minutes ago, EnigMattic1 said: This!! Valour lack consistency. But, is that the coach or the players? Even when Valour are really rolling and clicking, the best they can do is play even on the pitch with their opponents. You'd think a talented but inconsistent squad what have some stretches where they are the dominant team out there. For me it's clear they're running up against the limits of their talent. It really stands out when a guy like Noah Jensen for Forge, not even a regular, shows what he can do. If he were to sign with Valour he'd probably be one of the top 5 most talented guys ever to wear the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, jonovision said: Even when Valour are really rolling and clicking, the best they can do is play even on the pitch with their opponents. You'd think a talented but inconsistent squad what have some stretches where they are the dominant team out there. For me it's clear they're running up against the limits of their talent. It really stands out when a guy like Noah Jensen for Forge, not even a regular, shows what he can do. If he were to sign with Valour he'd probably be one of the top 5 most talented guys ever to wear the shirt. I agree. There is a vast difference in the calibre of players at Valour in comparison to the rest of the league. I think they need to take a long, hard look at the squad and see who can give a good showing and not fall short (Antonoglu), find talented players to strengthen the side and take it from there. Realistically, look for a commanding CB, a CM who can pick out a pass and a SC who can score on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro2 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 33 minutes ago, EnigMattic1 said: I agree. There is a vast difference in the calibre of players at Valour in comparison to the rest of the league. I think they need to take a long, hard look at the squad and see who can give a good showing and not fall short (Antonoglu), find talented players to strengthen the side and take it from there. Realistically, look for a commanding CB, a CM who can pick out a pass and a SC who can score on a regular basis. The other issue is the when players do perform well at Valour, they leave at their first opportunity, which makes it even harder to properly team build. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Soccerpro2 said: The other issue is the when players do perform well at Valour, they leave at their first opportunity, which makes it even harder to properly team build. But would things be different if they could make the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro2 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, EnigMattic1 said: But would things be different if they could make the playoffs? If they had success it would be easier to keep and recruit players. They’ve never had success so the cycle always continues. K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, Soccerpro2 said: If they had success it would be easier to keep and recruit players. They’ve never had success so the cycle always continues. Correct me if I am wrong but I felt Valour have signed more players this year to multi-year contracts or contracts with option years. Perhaps it will start to break the pattern of massive annual turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 7 hours ago, K Edgar said: Correct me if I am wrong but I felt Valour have signed more players this year to multi-year contracts or contracts with option years. Perhaps it will start to break the pattern of massive annual turnover. They have signed a handful to multi-year contracts and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a 'club option' to extend in Williams' contract. But, it is frustrating when you see teams like HFX getting Rea on a multi-year deal. Wasn't Akio's deal with Cavalry something like 3 and a half years too? K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted Friday at 03:08 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:08 PM On 9/1/2024 at 2:39 AM, EnigMattic1 said: But, it is frustrating when you see teams like HFX getting Rea on a multi-year deal. And how HFX signs Mekideche (with an option for 2025)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted Saturday at 08:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:07 PM All the audio from the Sep 13/24 post game press conference of the CPL game between York United FC and Valour FC played at York Lions Stadium. 33 minutes with Jordan Faria, Phil Dos Santos, Olusola Jimoh, and Benjamin Mora. http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports24/24york169.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wippersuna Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM Man I loved Mekideche. That loss really sucks. The fact that no one (including players developed here) want to come back is probably the most concerning part of the team. Can’t even say it’s cause we suck because HFX isn’t exactly lighting it up. K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM A couple of good results from the other bottom feeders and all of a sudden Valour are in pole position for the wooden spoon again. Wouldn't hurt to have those two points that were stolen last week. K Edgar and Bison44 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted yesterday at 02:53 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:53 AM 1 hour ago, jonovision said: A couple of good results from the other bottom feeders and all of a sudden Valour are in pole position for the wooden spoon again. Wouldn't hurt to have those two points that were stolen last week. The next 2 games will go a long way to determining Valour's placing. Home games vs HFX and Pacific -- 6 points would change the season outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted yesterday at 01:27 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:27 PM 12 hours ago, jonovision said: A couple of good results from the other bottom feeders and all of a sudden Valour are in pole position for the wooden spoon again. Wouldn't hurt to have those two points that were stolen last week. I'm good with Pacific winning. Result means the border into 5th remains unmoved. But yeah, point stands. The border into last place sure got closer. Pacific, away to Wanderers, away to Ottawa, away to Valour. Vancouver, Forge at home and away to Cavalry. Wanderers, at home to Pacific, away to Valour, away to Ottawa. By the end of September if Valour get the results at home they've a reasonable chance of being in 5th. The season ender against Cavalry might be a huge match for both teams. For different reasons of course but important all the same. Which, I guess, is sort of the point of the format. K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro2 Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM 16 hours ago, Wippersuna said: Man I loved Mekideche. That loss really sucks. The fact that no one (including players developed here) want to come back is probably the most concerning part of the team. Can’t even say it’s cause we suck because HFX isn’t exactly lighting it up. Everyone leaves as soon as they get a chance and no one ever wants to come back. That says everything about what players think about Valour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted yesterday at 05:38 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:38 PM You guys are saying this...except you are leaving out Hundal, who is on his second stint with Valour. jonovision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro2 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 hours ago, Bison44 said: You guys are saying this...except you are leaving out Hundal, who is on his second stint with Valour. Let me rephrase "they brought 1 guy back who was in the doghouse of an expansion team" Cheeta and Bison44 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) ^ Who's on 6 goals after his latest and has sort of come to life during the end period of the season. If he nets a couple more, and he very will could, that's as successful a signing as PDS has made. As it stands now between him and Swibel that's half of Valour's goal output. Edited 17 hours ago by Cheeta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago On 9/14/2024 at 7:40 PM, Wippersuna said: Man I loved Mekideche. That loss really sucks. The fact that no one (including players developed here) want to come back is probably the most concerning part of the team. Can’t even say it’s cause we suck because HFX isn’t exactly lighting it up. For me Dyer signing for Pacific stung. No, more than stung. Burned. Like burned enough that you were left wondering if you should go see a doctor or something. I have to believe Valour has had a rep around the league for years now, earned or otherwise, and it's going to take some work undoing. Phil added to it when he screwed over Sirois (as serious a strategic mistake as he could make and one I'm sure he'd undo if he could go back in time) and ruined the potential of getting any player on loan who might be worth a damn. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago It could be that they are cheap...dont hand out the going rate and are under the cap while some teams just seem to pay whatever they want and never go over the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Correct me if I'm wrong, but Williams wont be playing again this season and, as such, has been removed from the roster. That would mean we have a slot available. Why didn't we sign anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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