CNL: Jamaica vs Canada - Saturday, November 18th - 10:30am EST / 7:30am Pacific - Kingston, Jamaica

[Ottawafan]

26 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

Need to get him something else to wear.

If you only knew how hard I've tried.

[SpursFlu]

Just got to the game now. Thought it was a good performance. Their goal was a joke. Terrible officiating 

Job not done but feeling good

Jamaica a solid team. I expect them to qualify 

Edited November 18, 2023 by SpursFlu

[Ally McCoist]

1 hour ago, BearcatSA said:

A big positive, but a lot of question marks out there today, too, with many mistakes going unpunished, frankly.  However, I liked how we kept it together and showed enough quality to dispatch this opponent.

And I will give props to Kaye, too.  Came on and did a job for us during his stint.

Osorio's decision making and execution with the ball on those two counter attacks?  Man, that wasn't a good look there.

Dude I was going to say those counter attacks at the end there... we should have scored there?? Osorio had so much space and time to run closer and get a shot on goal. I mean I know we're trying to run out the clock but away goals matter. And Jamaica weren't even trying anymore. I feel like my fat ass would've been more effective there?

Edited November 18, 2023 by Ally McCoist

[BearcatSA]

10 minutes ago, Ally McCoist said:

Dude I was going to say those counter attacks at the end there... we should have scored there?? Osorio had so much space and time to run closer and get a shot on goal. I mean I know we're trying to run out the clock but away goals matter. And Jamaica weren't even trying anymore. I feel like my fat ass would've been more effective there?

This.  Those should have turned into shots on goal

[CanadaFan123]

3 minutes ago, BearcatSA said:

This.  Those should have turned into shots on goal

I thought osorio was good overall but that 2nd one - just take a shot on target! 

[Razcal]

48 minutes ago, SpursFlu said:

Just got to the game now. Thought it was a good performance. Their goal was a joke. Terrible officiating 

Job not done but feeling good

Jamaica a solid team. I expect them to qualify 

Hope we can pull it out, if Mexico don't advance they would have to be the favourite to qualify later.

Edited November 18, 2023 by Razcal

[The Beaver 2.0]

Just watched the replay. Great result on a morning where we could have just as easily been down a couple goals in the first half. Our lads grew into the game but never really took it over. We looked a side that has not played together much recently, so my focus on Tuesday will be to see if the lads show better cohesion, better understanding of each other, and better defensive organization. I'm optimistic. Getting a result in Jamaica under these conditions is no small thing. I expect Tajon and Davies to have great games in Toronto, with Steph being the guy running the midfield and making things happen. We need to tidy up our play, but I expect us to cut our unforced mistakes in half, at least.

Here's hoping a good game on Tuesday will also inject new confidence into David's season with Lille.

 

[The Beaver 2.0]

One other quick note: I was quite pleased to see us taking a number of decent shots from outside the 18. We NEED to add that to our arsenal.  Would have been sweet had Tajon hit the target with his volley.

[BearcatSA]

55 minutes ago, The Beaver 2.0 said:

One other quick note: I was quite pleased to see us taking a number of decent shots from outside the 18. We NEED to add that to our arsenal.  Would have been sweet had Tajon hit the target with his volley.

That was good to see, especially at the end of limited touches build up for some.

[grigorio]

1 hour ago, The Beaver 2.0 said:

One other quick note: I was quite pleased to see us taking a number of decent shots from outside the 18. We NEED to add that to our arsenal.  Would have been sweet had Tajon hit the target with his volley.

Makes you wonder of this is a one-off cause of pitch conditions or if not shooting from distance was some sort of Herdman tactical thing 🤔 

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

5 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

https://www.concacaf.com/en/nations-league/game-details?matchid=713007

5 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

I assumed it was Milan since it looked like she was projecting the card his way (and he had been vocally chirping).  Maybe not tho.  

They updated the report. Kamal Miller got the yellow. 🟨

If you go to the match replay (it is now up on OneSoccer) to exactly 58:14 (on the match clock, not the video time) you see the whole pitch. At that exact moment, Kamal Miller appears to be quite far from the ref. In the following seconds it looks like the ref gives him a card from distance.

Did he yell something? Maybe someone with better powers of observation than myself knows what happened. 🤨

Edited November 18, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille

[trc2014]

46 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

They updated the report. Kamal Miller got the yellow. 🟨

If you go to the match replay (it is now up on OneSoccer) to exactly 58:14 you see the whole pitch. At that exact moment, Kamal Miller appears to be quite far from the ref. In the following seconds it looks like the ref gives him a card from distance.

Did he yell something? Maybe someone with better powers of observation than myself knows what happened. 🤨

Imagine cards carry over to the nations league semis and not the Copa play in game?

[Unnamed Trialist]

43 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

They updated the report. Kamal Miller got the yellow. 🟨

If you go to the match replay (it is now up on OneSoccer) to exactly 58:14 you see the whole pitch. At that exact moment, Kamal Miller appears to be quite far from the ref. In the following seconds it looks like the ref gives him a card from distance.

Did he yell something? Maybe someone with better powers of observation than myself knows what happened. 🤨

The ref wasn't that bad, but for me she had that typical NCAA chatty style, then tended to be a long ways from the play.

You have to have a thicker skin reffing men, I think one dissent card vs Jamaica was harsh.

Then her lineswomen let her down in some moments, by commission and omission.

I was hard on her before the women's WC final but she did well there too.

[dyslexic nam]

2 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

The ref wasn't that bad, but for me she had that typical NCAA chatty style, then tended to be a long ways from the play.

I think this is accurate for 89 of the 90 minutes but she was directly responsible for allowing a goal that shouldn’t have happened.  Yeah you should always be on your toes and alert, but if the ref has walked your wall back 10 yards you have a right to be pissed if she allows play before the whistle.  Hard to say she had a good game when she had a very direct role in facilitating the equalizer.   

[maccaliam]

8 hours ago, narduch said:

Off topic. Just saw Jim Brennan at the grocery store

My son just played a game today against a team coached by Eddie Berdusco. Nice guy. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by maccaliam
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[toontownman]

Just nice to have a positive result again. Will hopefully be a big confidence boost for the team and if they do it again on Tuesday it will help part the dark clouds over Canadian soccer at least for a bit!

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

19 minutes ago, trc2014 said:

Imagine cards carry over to the nations league semis and not the Copa play in game?

If Miller gets a yellow in the game on Tuesday he would be suspended for the CNL semifinal.

The Copa America play-in match is not technically CNL and it seems he would not be suspended if we fail against Jamaica.

[Corazon]

Slow start but overall the game got much better.  Some improvements still to be made but there were many positives as well in this game.  I too am very glad to see us taking much more shots from outside the box.  If we can add this threat to our attack, it will make us that more difficult to play against.  Too much of our focus in attack comes down the outside and rightfully so given our talents.  Excited to see more attack in the middle of the park.  I'm also not convinced with all of Biello's tactics yet but it worked out in the end.  I liked moving to a back 4 but I think we need another central midfielder to have more control of these games.

Borjan - Distribution could be improved.  I thought he was okay other than that as Jamaica really didn't test him too frequently.  Needs to make sure we're not asleep on free kicks.  However, I will add that that Jamaica goal is called back in my local men's Sunday leagues 10 times out of 10.  Shocking refereeing there but also very unsurprising from CONCACAF.

Miller -  Thought he played near flawless back there.  He isn't the fastest out there but he does such a great job reading the play and his tackling is exceptional as well.  I thought he was one of if not our best player today.

Vitoria - I felt that he grew into the game but he had a few big mistakes early on that should have punished us.  Lucky not to be down early due to his early game struggles.  More than anyone, I think Vitoria needs to be pushed to a role off the bench (much like Henry did during qualification).  He still provides leadership and he can be used in certain games off the bench.

Laryea - Again, I thought he had a slow start but once he got going I thought he was great.  Arguably another one of our top performers even with a slow start.  Exceptional run and assist on the final goal as well.

Adekugbe - Was unsure that he should be starting, but he was overall okay and more than adequate out there.

Eustaquio - I really think Eustaquio and Kone are left out to dry in these formations.  So hard to ask two midfielders to play by themselves with wingers playing along their outside.  Not a lot great about today's performance aside from his workhorse rate and his tidy finish.

Kone - See above but obviously had some terrible giveaways in dangerous areas.  He got better as the game opened up.  I think he's got the size, strength, speed and dribbling capabilities that can make him a better player than Eustaquio in a 2 man midfield.  Unfortunately some of his passes and decisions are lacking but he's still got time to improve those aspects of his game.  

Davies - Not very good at all from him today.  I feel that he really should be playing left back for us but I also understand that we have 4/5 outside backs capable of starting for this Canada so they're trying to find roles for everyone.  I know I'm repeating everyone on here but how has Davies been able to convince another Head Coach he needs to be taking our set pieces?  I'd be shocked if team mates want him taking them.  I've never seen a player so consistently poor at corners and free kicks and it almost feels like house league where the coaches child takes all the set pieces despite being arguably the worst on the team at them.

Tajon - Much like Davies, not a great game at all, but also because of the field of play.  Today's conditions were never going to benefit our players that thrive at dribbling.  Expect big games from him and Davies on Tuesday.

Larin - Should have finished at least one or two chances but did exceptionally well on David's goal and I would say that his hold up play was better than usual.  One of our brighter players today.

David - Not great but nice to see him on the scoresheet.  Sometimes, its the easiest goals like that, that can change a scoring draught.  Love his work rate and press but need some group press to support him.

Kaye - Had a couple minor giveaways but overall stayed under the radar, which I think we would all take from a MAK performance nowadays. 

Osorio - I didn't think he was poor either and I thought he originally made the right decision to pull after the first late chance.  I don't think he had the skill to get it to where Millar needed him to and it wasn't going to be a great scoring chance even still.  But there is No excuse on the 2nd chance though.  He needs to see that first touch pass to Millar.  There are times to hold up which he did well on the first chance.  The 2nd was inexcusable, especially since he continued on and tried (and failed) at a tougher pass instead of holding on.

Hoilett - Wasn't able to get too involved in his time but I believe it was him who played a nice one-two with Laryea to set him free down the wing on the winning goal.

Johnston - Surprised he didn't start and would have preferred to see LDF come in instead.

Millar - No one works as hard or has as much heart as Millar.  Hard work and effort pays off and it shows as he has moved up in our depth chart as one of our main players off the bench.

See you all Tuesday at BMO Field.

[sose]

Anyone know where I can catch the replay? I normally watch on FuboTV but it didn't record the game this morning, it recorded last nights stream /cancellation .

 

 

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

1 minute ago, sose said:

Anyone know where I can catch the replay? I normally watch on FuboTV but it didn't record the game this morning, it recorded last nights stream /cancellation .

 

 

The replay is on OneSoccer. It worked well for me earlier today on their phone app version.

[SirBobsaget]

1 hour ago, Corazon said:

Millar - No one works as hard or has as much heart as Millar.  Hard work and effort pays off and it shows as he has moved up in our depth chart as one of our main players off the bench.

He looked so quick. At one point he sprinted to pressured the entire Jamaica deep line all by himself for almost 1 minute cutting out the progressive passes.

[SirBobsaget]

21 minutes ago, sose said:

Anyone know where I can catch the replay? I normally watch on FuboTV but it didn't record the game this morning, it recorded last nights stream /cancellation .

 

 

Lookup the Heracles vs PSV game, Canada is the last 2-ish hours.

[Markoaleks]

Loved to follow @Squizz on Twitter long  pre Elon 

he and another lad Lord Bob were beauties 

are they on these boards at all? 

[lamptern]

52 minutes ago, SirBobsaget said:

He looked so quick. At one point he sprinted to pressured the entire Jamaica deep line all by himself for almost 1 minute cutting out the progressive passes.

That, is exactly what I expected from all subs who come off the bench after 60’.

However, it was always a no show when Brym subbed in.

[Joe Keeper]

I did a media black out all day and just managed to watch the game tonight. Great result. I think the whole game in Canada needed this right now. Technically and tactically they started to show today they are identifying their weaknesses and working on them. Long way to go though.

My biggest relief was the dedication to shots and shots on target. Some games we look like we dont care about this  which baffles me. Both goals were class. Larin's patience to follow the ball and turn was fantasic to watch. 

If the Jamaica goal did come from a delivery before the whistle, thats just typical concacrap. They are a flipping embarassment no matter who refs.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Joe Keeper