Next CanMNT manager (Herdman to TFC)

[Free kick]

11 minutes ago, Sal333 said:

There's nothing new to find out about Biello. You forget (I know I won't) that he was a coach of the IMpact. What you've seen from him is what you'll get

One could argue that he did a pretty good job with the Impact.   Took his team to the conference final.   

Edited March 25 by Free kick

[WestHamCanadianinOxford]

30 minutes ago, Chad_Impact said:

I would be okay with Jesse Marsch if there are no other great options before the Copa, I think he's a good coach. 

Visceral reactions aside ('Murica and dirty Leeds) he checks a lot of the boxes I have.

And for all you 4 at the back purists, I don't think he played anything else at Leeds. 

[TGAA_Star]

1 hour ago, Sal333 said:

There's nothing new to find out about Biello. You forget (I know I won't) that he was a coach of the IMpact. What you've seen from him is what you'll get

Biello is much like Berhalter...not the best in the world but far from the worst

[costarg]

5 hours ago, Free kick said:

One could argue that he did a pretty good job with the Impact.   Took his team to the conference final.   

And managed some major egos in the process.  Not saying I support him in continuing. 

Perhaps @Shway is correct and he just needs some more good time with the team to rebuild, build some confidence in himself as well as the team and develop some familiarity.  Personally I hoped we would have seen more by now.  I was happy with the squad selection, not so much with the formation and less with the on-field product.

[lamptern]

No he doesn’t need more time. He needs to step down.

40 points dropped when he didn’t make the reform happen (terminate brotherhood, get ride off old veterans, formation change)

Another 59 points dropped when he didn’t pass the Jamaica test. (Roster selection, in-game management)

1 point for recruiting and cap tied LDF who already determines to play for Canada

We have no time for Biello to grow, we need someone who has experience of crunch result from powerful opponents.

[jonovision]

47 minutes ago, lamptern said:

No he doesn’t need more time. He needs to step down.

I don't think he is Canada's man going forward, but stepping down does nobody any good unless the long-term replacement is already lined up. Or would you prefer, say, another Stephen Hart interregnum?

[lamptern]

12 minutes ago, jonovision said:

I don't think he is Canada's man going forward, but stepping down does nobody any good unless the long-term replacement is already lined up. Or would you prefer, say, another Stephen Hart interregnum?

No, I simply prefer a specialist who knows how to organize defend and conduct lethal counter attack. One attribute: tactic expert. 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

10 hours ago, lamptern said:

...We have no time for Biello to grow, we need someone who has experience of crunch result from powerful opponents.

What the CMNT needs and what the CSA can afford right now may not be one and the same thing. Mauro Biello likely wouldn't have been the interim this long otherwise, because if the money required were available it should already have been possible to spend it on a hire on the same sort of scale of Holger Osieck or Benito Floro.

[Sal333]

15 hours ago, TGAA_Star said:

Biello is much like Berhalter...not the best in the world but far from the worst

I think you just defined mediocrity.

[Shway]

55 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

What the CMNT needs and what the CSA can afford right now may not be one and the same thing. Mauro Biello likely wouldn't have been the interim this long otherwise, because if the money required were available it should already have been possible to spend it on a hire on the same sort of scale of Holger Osieck or Benito Floro.

And this is the reality I also have!

I'm opposed to something new just for the sake of it being new, and the names some of you guys are mentioning here (Marsch, Henry) is underwhelming and fits the narrative I'm saying. 

All I'm saying is the grass isn't always greener on the other side
 

[Bigandy]

1 hour ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

What the CMNT needs and what the CSA can afford right now may not be one and the same thing. Mauro Biello likely wouldn't have been the interim this long otherwise, because if the money required were available it should already have been possible to spend it on a hire on the same sort of scale of Holger Osieck or Benito Floro.

Thats not true at all. 

The CSA came out and said they needed a CEO/secretary before going out to find a coach. The money is completely irrelevant to the timing of getting a new head coach as evidenced by the fact that CSA has continually said they would not hire a coach before the strategic direction of the federation was solved. 

If money was the issue, delaying hiring a coach would not solve that because biello is getting paid currently. Instead, they would just hire a cheaper coach.

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

3 minutes ago, Bigandy said:

Thats not true at all. 

The CSA came out and said they needed a CEO/secretary before going out to find a coach...

^^^suspect he's incapable of reading between the lines given we all know from learned experience that officialdom always tells us the real reason in their official announcements. Hope I don't have to explain to anyone that last bit is sarcasm.

[InglewoodJack]

I root for Biello on a personal level- club legend, seems like a nice guy, he was thrown into the CANMNT chaos. I just wish he had a few years of national team experience elsewhere first. If he could spend a few years managing say, Guatemala and then came back to take the Canada job in ‘26, I think we’re having a different conversation. I do still think we need a new head coach though. I hope Canada isn’t Biello’s last gig- he has a place managing a club or country, just wish it wasn’t us at this exact moment in time. 

[Bigandy]

30 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

^^^suspect he's incapable of reading between the lines given we all know from learned experience that officialdom always tells us the real reason in their official announcements. Hope I don't have to explain to anyone that last bit is sarcasm.

This is nonsense. 

I'm not saying to trust the CSA but follow the money. 

We pay biello X dollars to be interim. We hire a new coach and pay him X dollars. The CSA is no better or worse off financially by delaying a decision. Where is the financial savings you are implying exist by delaying a head coach hire?

On the flip side.

Does Jason de vos want to be responsible for hiring a new CMNT coach as an interim CEO whos probably over his head? Would you if your JDV? 

Does the board want JDV to be in charge of this? Would you if your a board member? 

[WestHamCanadianinOxford]

56 minutes ago, Shway said:

And this is the reality I also have!

I'm opposed to something new just for the sake of it being new, and the names some of you guys are mentioning here (Marsch, Henry) is underwhelming and fits the narrative I'm saying. 

All I'm saying is the grass isn't always greener on the other side
 

Interesting thoughts. 

Marsch has coached in Canada and also at the highest club level, including Champions League.  Worked with a lot of highly-paid footballers there and has something to prove.  

His teams played well at times with Leeds but were often let down by their finishing.  We have better finishers to be honest. 

 

And he can't bring in too many Americans with us.

 

I guess who would not be underwhelming?

[Shway]

12 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said:

Interesting thoughts. 

Marsch has coached in Canada and also at the highest club level, including Champions League.  Worked with a lot of highly-paid footballers there and has something to prove.  

His teams played well at times with Leeds but were often let down by their finishing.  We have better finishers to be honest. 

And he can't bring in too many Americans with us.

I guess who would not be underwhelming?

Maybe I'm being harsh? and maybe I didn't stress hard enough that I don't want an American coaching our national team. There are many other options. Anybody else, but an American is how I feel. 

[WestHamCanadianinOxford]

6 minutes ago, Shway said:

Maybe I'm being harsh? and maybe I didn't stress hard enough that I don't want an American coaching our national team. There are many other options. Anybody else, but an American is how I feel. 

Fair enough.

I guess I am at the point where if we can get a good coach who has a defined tactial style, especially one that has some experience dealing with bigger players - something we lacked even under Herdman - for the money we can offer, I need to swallow my pride. 

 

Henry might garner respect but I just don't think he's very a good coach (or a particular insightful pundit, though fun to watch at time.) 

Edited March 26 by WestHamCanadianinOxford

[Aird25]

Do people just not believe what has been reported on this matter? We've known for ages that a General Secretary would be hired first, that that they would be involved in the coaching hire, and that the lack of available funds preventing us from hiring the candidate of choice is greatly exaggerated.

Biello has hardly had a shot yet, but he guided us through a critical first step, and Kevin Blue is only a few weeks on the job.

National team players and fans have called for a cleaning of the house, and they've gotten it. Now some seem to be complaining about that very process 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

1 hour ago, Bigandy said:

...Does Jason de vos want to be responsible for hiring a new CMNT coach as an interim CEO whos probably over his head? Would you if your JDV? ...

^^^he's really trying to argue that somebody who actually played for the CMNT and raised the Gold Cup aloft back in 2000 should avoid making a coach hiring decision so Kevin Blue can do it instead? Does anyone else on here seriously think a recently hired former Golf Canada exec is going to lead that process rather than people the CSA board think are actually knowledgeable enough to do it properly? The CEO angle is a red herring in all of this. He's the hired help that carries out on a daily basis what the board wants to happen and directs him to do.

[Bigandy]

11 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

^^^he's really trying to argue that somebody who actually played for the CMNT and raised the Gold Cup aloft back in 2000 should avoid making a coach hiring decision so Kevin Blue can do it instead? Does anyone else on here seriously think a recently hired former Golf Canada exec is going to lead that process rather than people the CSA board think are actually knowledgeable enough to do it properly? The CEO angle is a red herring in all of this. He's the hired help that carries out on a daily basis what the board wants to happen and directs him to do.

Ah.... I see now.  

You're not addressing me directly anymore but still trying to make a point to the board. 

My mistake for trying to engage with you.

[Aird25]

1 hour ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

Does anyone else on here seriously think a recently hired former Golf Canada exec is going to lead that process rather than people the CSA board think are actually knowledgeable enough to do it properly?

According to virtually everyone that reports on the CSA and likely has regular discussions with the folks in charge, this hire was always going to be the 'domino that fell first' (using beloved Alistair Johnston's terms). 

[Bison44]

55 minutes ago, Bigandy said:

Ah.... I see now.  
You're not addressing me directly anymore but still trying to make a point to the board. 
My mistake for trying to engage with you.

Never argue with a parrot, they'll drag you down to there level and beat you with experience. 

Of course what they said they were going to do over and over since last fall is a red herring. Waiting on the most important hire for CSA ever is just some CSB power play, not them trying to get it right and get the right coach to lead us into WC26.   Of course its all a smoke screen to hide their real plans... _________ wants to __________ (i'll leave it blank because it varies depending on his mood) and it all is happening because they didnt listen to the parrot and shoot for a golden horsehoe MLS farm club bus league in 2018.   

[Watchmen]

2 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

^^^he's really trying to argue that somebody who actually played for the CMNT and raised the Gold Cup aloft back in 2000 should avoid making a coach hiring decision so Kevin Blue can do it instead? Does anyone else on here seriously think a recently hired former Golf Canada exec is going to lead that process rather than people the CSA board think are actually knowledgeable enough to do it properly? The CEO angle is a red herring in all of this. He's the hired help that carries out on a daily basis what the board wants to happen and directs him to do.

Do I think Blue is going to be asking the technical questions to the coach? No, of course not. But do I think he's going to lead the search by setting parameters (cultural fit, cost, etc, while getting assistance with the technical aspects)? Absolutely.

[jhoops__]

They’ve been actively searching for a coach for over 6 months so I’m guessing a lot of the leg work has been done.  I’m hoping they’ve narrowed down the search to a few candidates and now that we’ve qualified for Copa we can move forward rather quickly on this front.   

[Bigandy]

1 hour ago, Bison44 said:

Never argue with a parrot, they'll drag you down to there level and beat you with experience. 

Of course what they said they were going to do over and over since last fall is a red herring. Waiting on the most important hire for CSA ever is just some CSB power play, not them trying to get it right and get the right coach to lead us into WC26.   Of course its all a smoke screen to hide their real plans... _________ wants to __________ (i'll leave it blank because it varies depending on his mood) and it all is happening because they didnt listen to the parrot and shoot for a golden horsehoe MLS farm club bus league in 2018.   

If only we had a bus league, we would have a coach by now....

I know better than to squawk back but the little birdy keeps baiting....