narduch Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 2023 Concacaf Gold Cup - Group Stage - Matchday 2 Canada vs Guatemala Saturday July 1, 2023 - 9:30 pm ET/6:30 pm PT Venue: Shell Energy Stadium, Houston, USA Canada tied Guadeloupe in their opening match 2-2. Guatemala defeated Cuba 1-0. Canada Roster: Guatemala Roster: Referee: Edited June 29, 2023 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP10 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 We haven’t faced Guatamala in a competitive match since 2007 NVsoccer and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Canada I won't be surprised if we lose to Guatemala honestly especially if you can draw with Guadeloupe of all teams. This team just angers the hell out or me. jonovision, ADP10, JamboAl and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 Match start will probably be after 10pm ET. I will update the 1st post once I confirm nfitz and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Canada I won't be surprised if we lose to Guatemala honestly especially if you can draw with Guadeloupe of all teams. This team just angers the hell out or me. Guadeloupe is miles better than guatemala on paper. 2 mls guys, one league 1 guy and then pretty much locals. guadeloupe had guys playing in top 5 leagues last season.... Thats a massive difference. NVsoccer, johnyb, Stryker911 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bigandy said: Guadeloupe is miles better than guatemala on paper. 2 mls guys, one league 1 guy and then pretty much locals. guadeloupe had guys playing in top 5 leagues last season.... Thats a massive difference. Don't take the dude you replied to seriously. His takes are either hilariously wrong or the most obvious "Alphonso Davies is good at soccer" stuff. Edited June 29, 2023 by VinceA Bigandy and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Reading mixed things about whether Rubin will be able to play Saturday. Big loss if he is unavailable. king1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Canada I won't be surprised if we lose to Guatemala honestly especially if you can draw with Guadeloupe of all teams. This team just angers the hell out or me. 6 guys had their 1st cap! I expected a close game with Guadeloupe. No big deal, we win the next 2. RJB, TGAA_Star and Canuckia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadeau Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I wonder who’s filling the leadership spots that Doneil (the big brother)and Atiba (father) left behind. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Cadeau said: I wonder who’s filling the leadership spots that Doneil (the big brother)and Atiba (father) left behind. Phil Neville and ZBG Cadeau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I expect nothing from this match, but hope we can pull out the W. Yes Guatemala doesn't have much players playing in top leagues, but they always have a brand a footy that they play. And with only maybe Laryea, and Ahmed showing they can break down players, I don't know where our goals will come from. 2-1 final result. For who, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Shway said: I expect nothing from this match, but hope we can pull out the W. Yes Guatemala doesn't have much players playing in top leagues, but they always have a brand a footy that they play. And with only maybe Laryea, and Ahmed showing they can break down players, I don't know where our goals will come from. 2-1 final result. For who, I don't know. Hoillet and millar were creating plenty of opportunities. Millar had several great crossing opportunities but the delivery wasnt quite there. Hoillet was terrific for spells in the game. Surely hes included with laryea and ahmed. Oso on current form is a bit of an issue but usually hes good for a few chances. I think against a weaker team, he can contribute. I wouldnt sleep on shaff either. If he can find space to run into, he can create chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP10 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 If the turnout is the same as the last Guatamala game, its basically going to be another away game. I’m betting on another draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, ADP10 said: If the turnout is the same as the last Guatamala game, it’s basically going to be another away game. I’m betting on another draw Nah. We got this. Edited June 30, 2023 by dyslexic nam MtlMario, Canuckia and K Edgar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Absolute must win on Saturday. Herdman has to start his strongest lineup, and he has to make a defensive change. How about: St. Clair in goal and Bombito at CB to start? One of the two slow CB's, SV or ZM, has to start on the bench. Shway, TOcanadafan and Canuckia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Stoppage Time said: Absolute must win on Saturday. Herdman has to start his strongest lineup, and he has to make a defensive change. How about: St. Clair in goal and Bombito at CB to start? One of the two slow CB's, SV or ZM, has to start on the bench. Herdman believes his strongest line up includes Borjan and Vitoria, and playing players out of position. TOcanadafan and ADP10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, VinceA said: Herdman believes his strongest line up includes Borjan and Vitoria, and playing players out of position. And that's the rub. Hopefully, the experimentation stops for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Stoppage Time said: Absolute must win on Saturday. Herdman has to start his strongest lineup, and he has to make a defensive change. How about: St. Clair in goal and Bombito at CB to start? One of the two slow CB's, SV or ZM, has to start on the bench. Spot on with these changes, as much as I still want to see Bombito in the middle again(reminded me of what we expected of Okello to be at least) I also want to see him in the back as his pace and comfortability on the ball could be key. I hope we see more of JRR, Zator, and and finally see Loturi. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerkick Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Red jerseys please. July 1st MtlMario, Obinna, red card and 9 others 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 8:29 AM, VinceA said: Don't take the dude you replied to seriously. His takes are either hilariously wrong or the most obvious "Alphonso Davies is good at soccer" stuff. Be that as it may, dropping points would not surprise me now that we've done so against Guadeloupe. I get the top 5 players argument, but this is tournament soccer and anything can happen. We are essentially playing an away game, where the majority will be Guatemalan fans. They are coming off a win and they had less travel. They have had good results in friendlies including beating Costa Rica. This game is not a guaranteed W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Shway said: Spot on with these changes, as much as I still want to see Bombito in the middle again(reminded me of what we expected of Okello to be at least) I also want to see him in the back as his pace and comfortability on the ball could be key. I hope we see more of JRR, Zator, and and finally see Loturi. I want to see a back 4 of Laryea-Kennedy-Bombito-ZBG Fine with McGraw for Bombito though. Don't need to see Bombito again in midfield. Too much on the line after dropping points. A lot of upside but too raw in an unfamiliar position. Loturi just spent a whole season playing in midfield. Role him out or even Fraser if you don't trust Loturi. Shway and costarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, cornerkick said: Red jerseys please. July 1st I have a hunch the reason we haven't seen the Red, is because they want the Women to Premier them at the WWC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasp Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Obinna said: I want to see a back 4 of Laryea-Kennedy-Bombito-ZBG Fine with McGraw for Bombito though. Don't need to see Bombito again in midfield. Too much on the line after dropping points. A lot of upside but too raw in an unfamiliar position. Loturi just spent a whole season playing in midfield. Role him out or even Fraser if you don't trust Loturi. Totally agree. We really need to move away from a back-3 IMO as it exposes our biggest weakness more than it adds in the ability to play Larin, David, Davies, and one of Laryea/Buchanan together. I'd love to see a 4-3-3 today as I still think that's our best formation when at 100%. My picks for tonight would be: Millar - Cavallini - Hoilett Ahmed - Loturi - Osorio Laryea - Kennedy - Bombito - ZBG St. Clair With the ultimate full strength squad being something like: Millar/Nelson - David/Larin - Buchanan/Hoilett Ahmed/Oso - Eustaquio/Loturi - Kone/Choinière Davies/Adekugbe - Miller/Kennedy - Vitoria/Bombito - Johnston/Laryea Borjan/St. Clair SUBS/BUBBLE PLAYERS: McGill/Sirois, Shaff, Zator, McGraw, Ugbo, Fraser/Spoony (depending on landing spots for both of them at club-level). Edited July 1, 2023 by Wasp Correcting error chris_yzf, TOcanadafan, Obinna and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince of MTL Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 19 hours ago, johnyb said: I have a hunch the reason we haven't seen the Red, is because they want the Women to Premier them at the WWC. The Women and Men have different jerseys RJB, RS and red card 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 20 hours ago, Obinna said: I want to see a back 4 of Laryea-Kennedy-Bombito-ZBG Fine with McGraw for Bombito though. Don't need to see Bombito again in midfield. Too much on the line after dropping points. A lot of upside but too raw in an unfamiliar position. Loturi just spent a whole season playing in midfield. Role him out or even Fraser if you don't trust Loturi. Too much on the line but you want to see an untried CB partnership, with one of the two really having had very limited pro experience? Bombito with Vitoria I could possibly see, even despite the latter's olé on the first goal last game. I'm not feeling the confidence with Kennedy at the moment and this is definitely a banana peel match. We need some qb-ing back there, and that was clearly lacking in the CNL final when Vitoria was not starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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