PopePouri Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 On 8/21/2024 at 11:36 AM, PopePouri said: Just take it from the kid himself. Kent, johnyb, nolando and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, PopePouri said: Just take it from the kid himself. Thanks. So, "SIH-gur" then. Borjans Sweatpants and ahmedou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) More like SEE-ger. Edited August 29 by PopePouri ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 15 minutes ago, PopePouri said: More like SEE-ger. That's not how I am hearing it. More SIH than SEE. Buchta, Club Linesman, Kadenge and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) So just to clarify, like Bob Seger? I had always thought see-GUR, with emphasis on the second syllable. Edited August 29 by dyslexic nam ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 No idea why there would be so much confusion over how to pronounce the letter i in a Croatian name. Check out this instruction video from North Korea where the greatest ever Croat was concerned: Tito as the diminutive singer clearly demonstrates in this clip is pronounced Tee-toh. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: No idea why there would be so much confusion over how to pronounce the letter i in a Croatian name. Check out this instruction video from North Korea where the greatest ever Croat was concerned: Tito as the diminutive singer clearly demonstrates in this clip is pronounced Tee-toh. I think it's pronounced TIH-toh. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Let's imbox him all. And let's tell him how we pronounce his name in english. We'll get our answer soon or later or never. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said: So just to clarify, like Bob Seger? I had always thought see-GUR, with emphasis on the second syllable. The Real Marc, ahmedou and Mattd97 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 You guys neeeeeed to go see this guy: Itsbobbyfinn. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 15 hours ago, PopePouri said: Just take it from the kid himself. Damn that's pro material right there. Borjans Sweatpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Dear Croatians Voyageurs (@NotCanadian, etc), Dou I order Niko Sigur's Hajduk Split jersey... Yes or no?! Allez les Rouges, Ahmedou toontownman and Pottsy3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 But is it Nee-co or Nick-o? ahmedou, costarg, RS and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, kacbru said: But is it Nee-co or Nick-o? Neeickoo ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, kacbru said: But is it Nee-co or Nick-o? Fine lines... Nello and ahmedou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, kacbru said: But is it Nee-co or Nick-o? First one, he’s not australian ahmedou and Sal333 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) ''NIIIKOOO! MY COUUUSIIIN IS HEEEREEE!'' ''NIIIKOOO IT'S ROOOMAN, LET'SSS GOOO BOOOWLIIING!'' Edited August 30 by ahmedou WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 14 hours ago, costarg said: You guys neeeeeed to go see this guy: Itsbobbyfinn. As someone who spoke Italian (and French) for the first 6 years of my life, it was a shock to be introduced to English and its nonsensical written phonetics. Italian you read it as it is written ALL THE FUCKING TIME. French most of the time. English hardly ever. I can empathize with the character in that clip. The Real Marc, ahmedou, costarg and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 32 minutes ago, Sal333 said: As someone who spoke Italian (and French) for the first 6 years of my life, it was a shock to be introduced to English and its nonsensical written phonetics. Italian you read it as it is written ALL THE FUCKING TIME. French most of the time. English hardly ever. I can empathize with the character in that clip. Lies! I have heard at least 3 different ways to pronounce the “-cci” as a syllable in Italian surnames!! The Real Marc, rkomar and ahmedou 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 3 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: Lies! I have heard at least 3 different ways to pronounce the “-cci” as a syllable in Italian surnames!! Your experience tells me the people you were listening to were not native Italian speakers. Here's a video you can watch so you will know who if any is pronouncing it properly. Kadenge and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 9 hours ago, Sal333 said: As someone who spoke Italian (and French) for the first 6 years of my life, it was a shock to be introduced to English and its nonsensical written phonetics. Italian you read it as it is written ALL THE FUCKING TIME. French most of the time. English hardly ever. I can empathize with the character in that clip. I remember someone describing reading French as you read the start of the word and just ignore the last few letters. Seems pretty spot on with my limited French knowledge. ahmedou, WestHamCanadianinOxford and costarg 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, Sal333 said: As someone who spoke Italian (and French) for the first 6 years of my life, it was a shock to be introduced to English and its nonsensical written phonetics. Italian you read it as it is written ALL THE FUCKING TIME. French most of the time. English hardly ever. I can empathize with the character in that clip. Italian is a simple language and you are correct, it’s easy to pronounce from the written. Some speculate though that the reason Italians have so many hand gestures and facial expressions to emphasise the language is because it’s so simple and doesn’t have the complexity of say French or German in order to express oneself fully through verbal means. Who knows if that is right or wrong but it’s definitely the easiest language I have ever tried to learn (others I speak some or learned a bit like French, Spanish, Dutch, Cantonese or Mandarin are all much harder). ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 11 hours ago, An Observer said: Italian is a simple language and you are correct, it’s easy to pronounce from the written. Some speculate though that the reason Italians have so many hand gestures and facial expressions to emphasise the language is because it’s so simple and doesn’t have the complexity of say French or German in order to express oneself fully through verbal means. Who knows if that is right or wrong but it’s definitely the easiest language I have ever tried to learn (others I speak some or learned a bit like French, Spanish, Dutch, Cantonese or Mandarin are all much harder). Italian is definitely easier to learn, yet provides so much more flexibility and preciseness (even without the hand gestures) on top of being more eloquent and logical than any others I've had to learn. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 13 hours ago, Kent said: I remember someone describing reading French as you read the start of the word and just ignore the last few letters. Seems pretty spot on with my limited French knowledge. It's kind of like pronouncing words in a lot of English accents. Although there you sometimes pronounced the first sound, barely mumble through the middle and say the end. Like Worcestershire sauce = Wo---ster sauce But in a football context A player like (James) Garner, sounds like his name ends in a vowel and therefore maybe an Italian import. Edit: Another from the game today Mill"a" (ie. Millar) is very similar to the German Mehlem who plays beside him. Edited August 31 by WestHamCanadianinOxford ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 18 hours ago, Sal333 said: Your experience tells me the people you were listening to were not native Italian speakers... How about the legacy of all the traditional regional languages like Sicilian and Neapolitan though? Can think of surnames that are often pronounced significantly differently between Scotland and England for that sort of reason and even some Scottish names that changed spelling back in the 1800s to make them fit English language norms but still get pronounced the old traditional way by a lot of people. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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