JamboAl Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 The Wanderers Ground is a great little stadium in an amazing location that I love going to once or twice a year but to which I would not like buying season tickets. TD Place is a large stadium I like having season tickets at. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 3,352 at IG Field for Valour vs York Compared with the first X matches of 2022, here are the averages to date and increase/decrease from last year. (2022 average through X home matches, 2023 average to date, % change) Vancouver: n/a Ottawa: missing too many attendance figures, but definitely up from 2022. Forge: (still missing data for May 31) 3514.75 4976 41.57% Halifax: 5728.5 6328.5 10.47% Valour: 2779.75 3041.5 9.42% Pacific: 3108.8 3285.2 5.67% Cavalry: 3734.75 3778.75 1.18% York: 1279 1230.25 -3.81% Cavalry's fourth home match of 2022 was one of their biggest crowds of the season and much later in the month (June 26th), so their "increase" is not as big as it was after week 3. Edited June 5, 2023 by jonovision Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I kinda cheer for Valour.. watching the highlights I kinda like the vibe at their stadium. With potential in mind. If they could get some big games and drive a big crowd I think it will look great johnyb, jonovision, Metro and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Someone has managed to dig up the full set of Ottawa attendance figures. It seems the process of the number getting to the league site (or to places like fotmob) is not as automatic as it should be. And this, if you're interested: It might be more useful to sort the table by average attendance, but the growth(decline) in numbers is also very important at this point. The most recent Forge home match is the only attendance figure still missing. Edited June 7, 2023 by jonovision table was wrong, fixed Kadenge, Kent, Kingston and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 hours ago, jonovision said: Someone has managed to dig up the full set of Ottawa attendance figures. It seems the process of the number getting to the league site (or to places like fotmob) is not as automatic as it should be. And this, if you're interested: It might be more useful to sort the table by average attendance, but the growth(decline) in numbers is critical at this point. The most recent Forge home match is the only attendance figure still missing. If you can't trust John Candy, who can you trust? Updated my graph with the missing figures. I've decided to go with claimed numbers (not estimated numbers) and just mark them a different colour in my table so I know to look them up again in the future to see if the numbers become official (ie: listed on canpl.ca). Kingston, Trois Reds, Kadenge and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 CDNFootballer, johnyb, Kingston and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I think we should measure 2023 Vancouver fc vs 2022 FC Edmonton. It's a fare way to measure the health of attendance johnyb and K Edgar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBorto Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Attendance was 5,524 for Saturdays Wanderers game. This is not bad considering the recent performances of the team and especially that the forecast all week was for rain which limits single game purchases. (and there was significant rain in first half). I expect an increase next Saturday based on the great performance of the team. If weather is decent I would expect a return to 6,200+. If some rain it should still be better than 5,500. Bison44, johnyb and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 7 hours ago, BigBadBorto said: Attendance was 5,524 for Saturdays Wanderers game. This is not bad considering the recent performances of the team and especially that the forecast all week was for rain which limits single game purchases. (and there was significant rain in first half). I expect an increase next Saturday based on the great performance of the team. If weather is decent I would expect a return to 6,200+. If some rain it should still be better than 5,500. Where did you hear the 5,524? I don't see a number listed for that game, or the York vs Ottawa game, or the Forge vs Pacific game. P.S. Hey, the May 20th game between HFX and York has the number on the website now! So updates can happen! Hopefully they fill in some other gaps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBorto Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Kent said: Where did you hear the 5,524? I don't see a number listed for that game, or the York vs Ottawa game, or the Forge vs Pacific game. P.S. Hey, the May 20th game between HFX and York has the number on the website now! So updates can happen! Hopefully they fill in some other gaps too. I was at the game and they announced the crowd size in the 2nd half and the article below confirmed the 5,524 https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/sports/after-nearly-two-months-hfx-wanderers-finally-post-first-win-of-canadian-premier-league-season-100862969/ Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3350 for Valour FC for last nights Friday game. jonovision, PegCityCam and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6,019 at the Wanderers Grounds today (against Cavalry). jonovision, SpursFlu, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Great job to the HFX fans Been to the stadium twice on roadies best place to watch a match in entire CPL also- lower deck is the best beer hole in Canada too Lurker and SpursFlu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Ottawa looked solid Unnamed Trialist, K Edgar, johnyb and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Attendances this weekend: Valour vs Forge: 3350 Halifax vs Cavalry: 6019 Ottawa vs Vancouver: 5194 Pacific vs York: 2741* * exact same attendance figure as the previous match, so I have my doubts about the accuracy fo this one. narduch, aredding77 and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 A good chunk into the season and we have a good idea of how attendance compares to last year. 5 of 7 teams are up, and the 2 teams that are down are down 4 and 8 respectively. Vancouver drawing 3.5 times what Edmonton drew. Currently 20% higher than last year's average of 3176. I'd say that's good news. Bison44, Kingston, Bbeto and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, shermanator said: A good chunk into the season and we have a good idea of how attendance compares to last year. 5 of 7 teams are up, and the 2 teams that are down are down 4 and 8 respectively. Vancouver drawing 3.5 times what Edmonton drew. Currently 20% higher than last year's average of 3176. I'd say that's good news. Another way of drawing the comparison, with the same caveats about missing numbers from York and Forge. First 4, 5, or 6 matches of 2023 compared with 2022. Last year most teams' numbers picked up as the season went along. I'm assuming that's a seasonal thing, which is why I'm making the comparison in this way. It could also be a coming-out-of-covid thing last year, in which case I'm wasting my time. Bison44 and Kingston 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2149 announced for Vancouver vs Forge: https://www.fotmob.com/match/4113227/matchfacts/forge-fc-vs-vancouver-fc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2149 on a Tuesday for Vancouver FC, not as bad as I was thinking it may be for this game as the weather was cool and damp leading up to it and big grey clouds were over the stadium pre game, plus Tuesdays are the 2nd worst weekday you could have a game scheduled for. Was happy they pulled over 2K for this one, thought crowd would be a bit less. Thankfully no more weekday games this season for Vancouver FC. johnyb, Bbeto and ted 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2149 implies a stadium that is one-third full. That's a stretch to put it mildly based on the Onesoccer stream and what was showing as sold on the Showpass seat map prior to kick-off. Upbeat posts on a sub-forum that isn't being read by a mass audience won't alter the reality that FC Edmonton has been replaced by a club with broadly similar spectator appeal rather than another Halifax type success story. The concern has to be how willing SixFive Sports will be to sustain the combined losses of a quarter of the league's clubs plus their share of the financial black hole that is York United at a time when the terms of the CSB deal are being questioned by federal politicians and both national team rosters. If Dean Shillington is comparable to Phil Anschutz in that regard the show still has a reasonable shot at hanging in there in its current format long enough for things to potentially turn around with the current economic model, if not... Tigers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: 2149 implies a stadium that is one-third full. That's a stretch to put it mildly based on the Onesoccer stream and what was showing as sold on the Showpass seat map prior to kick-off. I was skeptical about the attendance potential for this team from the beginning. However, the brief view of the camera side of the field in the highlights showed more full stands. Was it what they claimed, I don't know, but we're certainly not in Edmonton or York territory yet. What will be the longer term trend...I'm still skeptical, mostly because I've seen no indication that the CPL either has the resources, or maybe the expertise, to market the product effectively. Even in Hamilton, unless you are looking for it, are one of the few people who gets the local paper, or happen to live near the stadium, you probably have only a vague idea that the CPL exists. If the league can't break into the legacy sports media, I think it's going to be very difficult to get into the consciousness of sports fans. Then they should be marketing success stories like Waterman, Farsi, McNaughton and Zator, but no one outside of the core fans will have any idea who those people are. I'm risking excoriation from the mob, but the CPL needs a dose of Trumpian hutzpah. Reality be damned, if you keep telling people you are the best thing out there, eventually a good chunk of the population will believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Vancouverites, even the ones in Langley, don't like to sit in their seats at sporting events. I think it's actually banned at Nat Bailey... nolando, ted and RJB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Cicero said: I was skeptical about the attendance potential for this team from the beginning. However, the brief view of the camera side of the field in the highlights showed more full stands... Very carefully selected camera angles focusing on two end sections with cheaper seats where most of the season tickets were sold. Meanwhile this was posted in the game thread: 7 hours ago, nolando said: Really terrible attendance though. Almost totally worrisome... Edited June 21, 2023 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Birdshit has been missing when attendance were strong and surprise surprise - he's back with his BS camera angle analysis and doomsday scenarios Buy a f'n ticket or STFU DoyleG, narduch, CDNFootballer and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I watched a few weeknight games in front of worse crowds in Calgary that first year. People need to have some patience and let this thing grow. Ivan, narduch, Tigers and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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