InglewoodJack Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Oh cripes, it was a soccer play, a hard challenge, not even a dirty cynical foul. This isnt Keane chasing Halland around the park or Materezzi 2 footing everything that moves. Grow up, lets hear about how Messi couldnt finish when he had..ummm 3 clear breakaways??? Yeah but he should know that when you play Messi, defenders are supposed to fall down like James Bond villain henchmen and let the chosen one cruise on through for a goal. This is what the 71,000 Argentina fans have paid to see and it’s insulting Bombito did not cooperate. toontownman and Canuckia 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: 90% passing rate, 3/3 on tackles, 4/5 ground duels won, committed zero fouls. That is not the stat line of a player who was exposed, and the eye test shows a player who took his biggest challenge yet and showed he was more than capable to seize the occasion. You don’t have to like his play- many Argentina fans are upset that he didn’t play his role in being a peon that allows Messi to run up his highlight reel, but nothing from his game last night told me he isn’t a good centre back who can’t become a great one. There is more to fullbacks then just making your fastest player play there. He is young, he is developing rapidly, and I suggest you watch more of his games, as he’s been universally applauded by coaches, pundits, players, and the typical transfer rumour mill. I disagree for me he has all the tools to be a proper fullback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, JAVIERF said: Totally agree. I don't support racist comments, Bombito is a good player but he relays too much in his speed and athletics. THIS ISNT CONNOR MCGREGOR sport, he could have ended Messi's Carrer it was a bad timing tackle. But as I said before , HE CAN'T PLAY LAST MAN, not yet!! He is too nervous too insecure !! Thanks GOD of FOOTBALL, they didn't allow this to hurt Lionel. His knee cap moved awkwardly because Bombito Scissored his ankle to trip him , It was a clear RED , but worst for him because he has demonstrated he is a bit of a bad person, you can't cover your mistake by trying to injure a fellow footballer, with purpose or NOT , that was a nasty tackle the ones that Maradona abd Gullit received week in and out in the 80's and 90's and yet you called him a 'bad person' and 'not smart', as blatant dog-whistling as you can get. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Yeah, it’s almost like he is (successfully) trolling you. Canuckia and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Fuck Messi. DeRo_Is_King, Meepmeep, Ivan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: Yeah, it’s almost like he is (successfully) trolling you. This tournament should be fun. Next, I'll be dusting off my dormant dislike of Chile which followed the 2007 U20 WC - what a bunch of scumbags that crew was. kacbru, JAVIERF, Mattd97 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 15 minutes ago, Soro17 said: and yet you called him a 'bad person' and 'not smart', as blatant dog-whistling as you can get. Yeah someone who wants to injure a fellow footballer in purpose is a bad person Not intelligent I gave you the reason why ? Again? He shouldn't have gone to the floor in the first place . It's not me it's Alex Ferguson sensible football manager. An intelligent and astute defender wouldn't have done what he did . I gave you the reasons . What else ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Soro17 said: This tournament should be fun. Next, I'll be dusting off my dormant dislike of Chile which followed the 2007 U20 WC - what a bunch of scumbags that crew was. They don't pronounce most syllables, their ATMs arent connected to world banks, and their mullets aren't nearly as good as mullets in Argentina. Source: 2 weeks trying to get the hell out of the driest dessert in the world more than a decade ago Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, JAVIERF said: Yeah someone who wants to injure a fellow footballer in purpose is a bad person Not intelligent I gave you the reason why ? Again? He shouldn't have gone to the floor in the first place . It's not me it's Alex Ferguson sensible football manager. An intelligent and astute defender wouldn't have done what he did . I gave you the reasons . What else ? You need to think a bit before you just throw out all the accusations. Here are the choices: He's a bad person who intentionally tried to hurt an opponent He's a naive defender who, in his desperation to make a play, kicked out at a ball and in the process got both ball and opponent. Which one is it? It's not both. JAVIERF and Canuckia 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, GasPed said: You need to think a bit before you just throw out all the accusations. Here are the choices: He's a bad person who intentionally tried to hurt an opponent He's a naive defender who, in his desperation to make a play, kicked out at a ball and in the process got both ball and opponent. Which one is it? It's not both. So no bad person but naive extremely naive that he was taken by the moment, you sound a bit like Michel Foucault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, JAVIERF said: So no bad person but naive extremely naive that he was taken by the moment, you sound a bit like Michel Foucault I'm about as far from Foucault ideologically as a person can possibly be... ...but I'll take that as a compliment. 😉 WestHamCanadianinOxford and JAVIERF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony7 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Fuck that bitch ass Messi. I wish Bombito broke that pussies leg. The guy has always been coddled throughout his career. Whether it’s the Rigged World Cup, numerous free Ballon D’ors/Tournament MVPs or bringing FC Barcelona to Inter Miami to be successful. Lionel ‘CODDLED’ Messi will never be the GOAT!!!!!! Edited June 21 by anthony7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, anthony7 said: Fuck that bitch ass Messi. I wish Bombito broke that pussies leg. The guy has always been coddled throughout his career. Whether it’s the Rigged World Cup, numerous free Ballon D’ors/Tournament MVPs and bringing FC Barcelona to Inter Miami to be successful. Lionel ‘CODDLED’ Messi will never be the GOAT!!!!!! Well, that's sad. I mean, I really don't like Osorio, but I was forced to back him because of your one-sided vitriol. Now it's Messi. I guess I have to back him now. Can you just give us a list of the people you hate so we can know who to cheer for? johnyb, Club Linesman, Cheeta and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 minutes ago, anthony7 said: Fuck that bitch ass Messi. I wish Bombito broke that pussies leg. The guy has always been coddled throughout his career. Whether it’s the Rigged World Cup, numerous free Ballon D’ors/Tournament MVPs and bringing FC Barcelona to Inter Miami to be successful. Lionel ‘CODDLED’ Messi will never be the GOAT!!!!!! Tranquilo te va a dar un ACV, Papu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony7 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, JAVIERF said: Tranquilo te va a dar un ACV, Papu Why don’t you go kiss Messi’s ass like the rest of his loser worshippers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: Funny that Argentina is apparently this country that preaches winning at all costs as a national religion, this thing about “streetball” and playing between the margins, but when our defender drops a “bad” (but beautiful) tackle on the greatest of all time, suddenly they’re offended someone would dare play outside the lines? Give me a break. Argentina isn’t pissed that Bombito is dirty, they’re pissed that Canada actually tried to be competitive. They were expecting us to be the Washington Generals- token opposition serving as a backdrop to allow Messi to do his thing and generate social media narratives. That we came to get a result and we didn’t care who their players were is deeply offensive to them. Como se dice “Argentina is the Boston Celtics of football- they always win but are always the victim” It's all part of the same game. Cognitive dissonance is a feature, not a bug. maccaliam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, GasPed said: I'm about as far from Foucault ideologically as a person can possibly be... ...but I'll take that as a compliment. 😉 "To punish less, perhaps; but certainly to punish better" How can we apply this to Messi? GasPed, InglewoodJack and JAVIERF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Can't believe this tackle is even a discussion. Mad. Guess it deflects away from the two penalties that arguably should have been given to Canada. Admiral Murray, kacbru, narduch and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 hours ago, Bison44 said: Oh cripes, it was a soccer play, a hard challenge, not even a dirty cynical foul. This isnt Keane chasing Halland around the park or Materezzi 2 footing everything that moves. Grow up, lets hear about how Messi couldnt finish when he had..ummm 3 clear breakaways??? Yes, maybe Canada just showed it is time for Messi to consider retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 36 minutes ago, toontownman said: Can't believe this tackle is even a discussion. Mad. Guess it deflects away from the two penalties that arguably should have been given to Canada. They certainly liked to cuddle Bombito a lot in the penalty area. Ivan, DeRo_Is_King and jhoops__ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 hours ago, JAVIERF said: Yeah someone who wants to injure a fellow footballer in purpose is a bad person I guess Messi is a bad person as well then. Clubbed a guy in the back of the head. Borjans Sweatpants, Canuckia, Nello and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 hours ago, narduch said: He complained about both incidents I think. Which probably adds flame to the fire. A decent human being would speak up on the issue. I’ll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 10 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: And their racist fans will say their piece then too, but luckily those guys you mentioned don’t have an army of obsessed shut in teenagers patrolling social media on their behalf. Are we sure it was Argentines who posted the comments? We have our own share of "very fine people" to paraphrase Trump. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: 90% passing rate, 3/3 on tackles, 4/5 ground duels won, committed zero fouls. That is not the stat line of a player who was exposed, and the eye test shows a player who took his biggest challenge yet and showed he was more than capable to seize the occasion. You don’t have to like his play- many Argentina fans are upset that he didn’t play his role in being a peon that allows Messi to run up his highlight reel, but nothing from his game last night told me he isn’t a good centre back who can’t become a great one. There is more to fullbacks then just making your fastest player play there. He is young, he is developing rapidly, and I suggest you watch more of his games, as he’s been universally applauded by coaches, pundits, players, and the typical transfer rumour mill. Fuckin rights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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