WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 4 minutes ago, jonovision said: and a willingness to foul constantly and persistently and bet (correctly) that the ref will be reluctant to call all of them. That's not a bet that the defending player can afford to make. True, again maybe its something you learn with an attacker like that is to give him space, especially if you think you can make up ground on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 5 hours ago, Aird25 said: He probably won't run into too many players like Brobbey, but he was completely outmatched and had no answer When I watched Brobbey at work agsinst Bombito, I thought back to how Waterman got turnstlled by that Bahrainian forward in the pre WC friendly leading to their goal. Edited June 11 by BearcatSA Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 hours ago, Soccerpro2 said: None of what you say changes the fact CBs are judged more harshly for individual mistakes, due to the fact they more often lead to goals being conceded, and therefore make coaches more reluctant to play them if they arent the finished product. Intuitively, being more mistake-prone would seem to be the explanation for having older CB's in general, but it's just as much a result of the position being less reliant on speed and fitness in general, so CB's are more effective longer, and thus there just aren't as many spots for young CB's. Games-played is more important than age in terms of decision making, so the problem is really that since CB's can play longer, it takes young CB's longer to accumulate the necessary experience. But they have to accumulate it somehow, so to get them to the higher level, they're going to make the mistakes regardless, they'll just be spread out over a longer period, because they don't play as much when they're young. If that's true, teams should just bite the bullet and play young CB's as much as possible, live with the mistakes and have a finished product for several more years than they would otherwise. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 hours ago, Aird25 said: He probably won't run into too many players like Brobbey, but he was completely outmatched and had no answer Yeah, I really didn't see it that way - I saw it more like he had his hands full (literally) with Brobbey. But apart from the one break Brobbey had at the end of the half (where Bombito's speed actually allowed him to recover and make a semi-intervention), I would say Brobbey pretty much had his hands full (literally) with Bombito too. Bombito was more often on the losing end of the duels, but he wasn't losing by much and it really wasn't a mismatch. Now Van de Ven vs. AJ - that was a mismatch. An Observer, Kadenge, phresh and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 13 hours ago, Cicero said: Intuitively, being more mistake-prone would seem to be the explanation for having older CB's in general, but it's just as much a result of the position being less reliant on speed and fitness in general, so CB's are more effective longer, and thus there just aren't as many spots for young CB's. Games-played is more important than age in terms of decision making, so the problem is really that since CB's can play longer, it takes young CB's longer to accumulate the necessary experience. But they have to accumulate it somehow, so to get them to the higher level, they're going to make the mistakes regardless, they'll just be spread out over a longer period, because they don't play as much when they're young. If that's true, teams should just bite the bullet and play young CB's as much as possible, live with the mistakes and have a finished product for several more years than they would otherwise. Barça started Cubarsí at CB the second half of the season, he turned 17 in January. I've rarely seen anything as impressive, it's just mind bending how good he is. And without having particular physical advantages. What you are saying, usually CBs need to accumulate lots of game experiences to be ready. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 InglewoodJack, jhoops__, DeRo_Is_King and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Big French clubs are in on him: Jack1997, costarg, Borjans Sweatpants and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Lille to replace Yoro makes sense InglewoodJack, Borjans Sweatpants, Canuckia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I'd be pleasantly shocked if he moves after only a half season where he started off brilliantly but seems to have dropped off a bit lately. Teams must see his ceiling and salivate. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 19 minutes ago, jhoops__ said: Lille to replace Yoro makes sense If that's the case, I think i'd like David to stay there. jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 hours ago, costarg said: If that's the case, I think i'd like David to stay there. If you told me David had to stay one more year so that Bombito could join Lille, I would take that. costarg, johnyb, Ivan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 41 minutes ago, Obinna said: If you told me David had to stay one more year so that Bombito could join Lille, I would take that. No, its time to move on sebdeserio, Kadenge and Norrin Radd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 YorkRegionFan, narduch, Kent and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: The virgins on Twitter and IG are abusing Bombito while jerking off to Messi YouTube compilations? As pathetic as it was predictable. 🙄 kacbru, DeRo_Is_King, narduch and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 We are with you Bombito!!! The fact that you had Moise's own sister speak out about this on IG...I just love that she's out here defending her brother in the comments section Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) On 6/19/2024 at 10:11 AM, Joe MacCarthy said: Love this. It's surreal to hear him talk about his moves through the ranks. I'm sure there are many like him in Quebec who have talent and just need an opportunity. Apart from Montreal, we rarely see players from the Quebec City area play for Canada, but there are good clubs and a decent university team there. Edited June 21 by DeRo_Is_King Canuckia and TGAA_Star 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 hours ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Fuck those guys. Good thing Bombito is gonna be in Europe soon, so Messi can sleep comfortably knowing he’ll never have to play him again. Cheeta, TGAA_Star, DeRo_Is_King and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, InglewoodJack said: Fuck those guys. Good thing Bombito is gonna be in Europe soon, so Messi can sleep comfortably knowing he’ll never have to play him again. Yeah but other Argentines will like Lautaro, Garnacho, Lisandro Martinez, De Paul, Paredes, Emi Martinez, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, TGAA_Star said: Yeah but other Argentines will like Lautaro, Garnacho, Lisandro Martinez, De Paul, Paredes, Emi Martinez, etc And their racist fans will say their piece then too, but luckily those guys you mentioned don’t have an army of obsessed shut in teenagers patrolling social media on their behalf. Canuckia, TGAA_Star and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I have always loved watching Messi play, but the McNaughton and Bombito incidents have soured me towards him. I'm just wondering if he ever speaks up about this sort of thing? Or does he accept his fans harassing anyone that touches him? kacbru, DeRo_Is_King and narduch 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: I have always loved watching Messi play, but the McNaughton and Bombito incidents have soured me towards him. I'm just wondering if he ever speaks up about this sort of thing? Or does he accept his fans harassing anyone that touches him? He is pompous imo. Too much blind worship from fans. I really can't stand his interviews, either. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 12 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: I have always loved watching Messi play, but the McNaughton and Bombito incidents have soured me towards him. I'm just wondering if he ever speaks up about this sort of thing? Or does he accept his fans harassing anyone that touches him? He complained about both incidents I think. Which probably adds flame to the fire. DeRo_Is_King and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, narduch said: He complained about both incidents I think. Which probably adds flame to the fire. Trying to be honest, he has more of a point with this one. But the language he used didn't help. Celebrity can be a heck of a drug. narduch, DeRo_Is_King and JAVIERF 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Trying to be honest, he has more of a point with this one. But the language he used didn't help. Celebrity can be a heck of a drug. I sort of agree. I actually think he fouled MacNaughton. MacNaughton was making a football play when Messi came in late and got hurt. The Bombito foul is a pretty standard foul though. I don't think it was super rash WestHamCanadianinOxford, RS, Kent and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, narduch said: I sort of agree. I actually think he fouled MacNaughton. MacNaughton was making a football play when Messi came in late and got hurt. The Bombito foul is a pretty standard foul though. I don't think it was super rash I agree on the first completely. On the second - stud onto the ankle even through the ball can be scary. But he was okay enough to switch shirts and hug people, that doesn't match the language then used. Canuckia and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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