TGAA_Star Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I'm just shaking my head constantly at this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Did anyone see what happened to Rubin? Looks like he came out early. Huge loss for Guatemala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Sitting here hoping for a 0-0 draw between Cuba and Guatemala. Feels just like old times... trc2014, Free kick, Olympique_de_Marseille and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Was anything officially said about why Ugbo and Corbeanu arnt here? The addition of these two would have added a massive lift to the team. We are so thin at forward. With the top guys out, this should be their time to get elevated. This roster needs goal threats. I know their club situations are not secure but that doesnt explain their absence. We have called players with similar or worse club situations. This roster baffles me. Edited June 28, 2023 by Joe Keeper DeRo_Is_King and Addona 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Joe Keeper said: Was anything officially said about why Ugbo and Corbeanu arnt here? The addition of these two would have added a massive lift to the team. We are so thin at forward. With the top guys out, this should be their time to get elevated. This roster needs goal threats. I know their club situations are not secure but that doesnt explain their absence. We have called players with similar or worse club situations. This roster baffles me. Herdman has not done any actual pressers where anyone could ask him about the roster. DeRo_Is_King and king1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe Keeper said: Was anything officially said about why Ugbo and Corbeanu arnt here? The addition of these two would have added a massive lift to the team. We are so thin at forward. With the top guys out, this should be their time to get elevated. This roster needs goal threats. I know their club situations are not secure but that doesnt explain their absence. We have called players with similar or worse club situations. This roster baffles me. Maybe they should be here, but would it really be a "massive" lift? Off the top of my head I think combined they have scored 1 goal for Canada. I fact checked myself before sending, apparently Corbeanu has scored 2 goals. 1 against Bermuda, and 1 against Martinique. king1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kent said: Maybe they should be here, but would it really be a "massive" lift? Off the top of my head I think combined they have scored 1 goal for Canada. I fact checked myself before sending, apparently Corbeanu has scored 2 goals. 1 against Bermuda, and 1 against Martinique. And that may be more than they scored for their entire club seasons combined this entire year… Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Kent said: Maybe they should be here, but would it really be a "massive" lift? Off the top of my head I think combined they have scored 1 goal for Canada. I fact checked myself before sending, apparently Corbeanu has scored 2 goals. 1 against Bermuda, and 1 against Martinique. ...vs Brym, Russel-Rowe and Schaffleburg backing up Cavallini? Yes. Ugbo and Corbeanu are higher quality technically. Im glad to have those three players here, but Im really confused as to why Ugbo and Corbeanu arnt here. They should be there in addition to those players unless they outrightly refused as others did. However, Herdman and the program were very excited they chose canada over other countries and we seem to have just abandoned Corbeanu. Ike has also been called for the majority of games including the World Cup. This is why I'm seeking an explanation. Our roster selection for this GC is infuriating. Absences like these should be questioned. Im troubled by the lack of coverage from the media too. It shows how superficial we still are as a football nation not to question basic but obvious things. If there is a reason, there is a reason. It deserves to be reported. Corazon, Kent, Shway and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, Joe Keeper said: ...vs Brym, Russel-Rowe and Schaffleburg backing up Cavallini? Yes. Ugbo and Corbeanu are higher quality technically. Im glad to have those three players here, but Im really confused as to why Ugbo and Corbeanu arnt here. They should be there in addition to those players unless they outrightly refused as others did. However, Herdman and the program were very excited they chose canada over other countries and we seem to have just abandoned Corbeanu. Ike has also been called for the majority of games including the World Cup. This is why I'm seeking an explanation. Our roster selection for this GC is infuriating. Absences like these should be questioned. Im troubled by the lack of coverage from the media too. It shows how superficial we still are as a football nation not to question basic but obvious things. If there is a reason, there is a reason. It deserves to be reported. I do agree with pretty much all of that. We should have some explanation of call ups, and Ugbo and Corbeanu might be more deserving of calls than other guys without me actually looking deep into it. I just kind of doubt they would be massive upgrades. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Kent said: I do agree with pretty much all of that. We should have some explanation of call ups, and Ugbo and Corbeanu might be more deserving of calls than other guys without me actually looking deep into it. I just kind of doubt they would be massive upgrades. Fair enough. The nature of my original post was not meant to start a debate comparing Ugbo and Corbeanu head to head to those three or some others. I think we would be much stronger with Ike and Theo on the roster with those three. Imagine if Herdman had all 5 to choose from for starting lineups or subs. I pictured that scenario and thats what got me wondering about absences when I saw the roster. All of these players except Russell-Rowe have been together in that kind of B team, up and comer category for so long so I wonder what is going on. Why some and not those two? There are so many unanswered questions surrounding this roster to me. Im also questioning Herdmans approach lately. Plus, it frustrates me that OneSoccer (or any media) doesnt ask these questions seriously. We can be so cut off from info unlike in most other football nations. Its part of getting serious about the game. Like I say, obvious things are not considered by many in Canada too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Can anyone give me a quick scouting report on Guatemala? How many of their players don’t play domestically? Any in Europe? MLS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Vaguely remember watching this game against Guatemala back in 1988 which brought Canadian soccer back down to earth with a sickening thud after Mexico 86: Won 3-2 at Swangard but out on away goals and no qualification for the final round robin qualification round meaning nothing much happening with the national team until the next qualification cycle. Hopefully Guatemala isn't going to pop the CMNT's bubble again 35 years on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Addona said: Can anyone give me a quick scouting report on Guatemala? How many of their players don’t play domestically? Any in Europe? MLS? 18 of their 23 players play domestically. 1 gk plays in USL league 1 1 gk plays in norway 1 defender plays in brazil serie B they have two American born players that play in MLS(one for mtl)that are probably their two best players. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_national_football_team EDIT. Rubio Rubin was capped 7 times by the USMNT. He was subbed off in the 11th minute. Huge loss for them if he is injured. Edited June 28, 2023 by king1010 narduch, Addona and nolando 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Unrelated, but i saw someone mention the next games won't be on Fubo... what's the deal with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Approve My Account Pls said: Unrelated, but i saw someone mention the next games won't be on Fubo... what's the deal with that? The guide shows CPL games playing instead but I don’t see any actual CPL games at those times when I look up the schedule. Could just be an issue with the guide and the game will actually be on. Hopefully that’s the case anyways. Approve My Account Pls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Approve My Account Pls said: Unrelated, but i saw someone mention the next games won't be on Fubo... what's the deal with that? All Canada games will be on Fubo. Some matches from other teams aren't available due to conflicts with the CPL. For instance the 2 Friday matches from Group C won't be available Approve My Account Pls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Also One Soccer is terrible at updating their schedule. It is often updated 1 day before dyslexic nam, nolando, king1010 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Since this is an experimental tournament, I would like to see an experimental lineup in 352 setup for next game. Vitoria, Borjan, and Miller…should take a break and be reconsidered if we make it to the knockout rounds. ———————St. Clair——————— ——Bombito-McGraw-Kennedy——— Laryea—Ahmed——Loturi———Millar —-—————Nelson———————— —————JRR——Cavallini—————— Subs: Zator \\ Bombito ZBG \\ Laryea Shaffelburg \\ Millar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shway said: Since this is an experimental tournament, I would like to see an experimental lineup in 352 setup for next game. Vitoria, Borjan, and Miller…should take a break and be reconsidered if we make it to the knockout rounds. ———————St. Clair——————— ——Bombito-McGraw-Kennedy——— Laryea—Ahmed——Loturi———Millar —-—————Nelson———————— —————JRR——Cavallini—————— Subs: Zator \\ Bombito ZBG \\ Laryea Shaffelburg \\ Millar Can Millar actually play Left wing at some point??? costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, spitfire said: Can Millar actually play Left wing at some point??? He did last night? Didn’t he? I just feel like his confidence is lost in the final third - a lot of indecisiveness. At times when he should’ve been taking on a man, it was a quick good cross to no one. Or getting caught in between to minds, and getting jammed. His quality to be able to advance the ball forward, and make the pass before the final pass (hockey assist) is why I put him there. And maybe why his Basel coach played him there as well. HochelagaFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Shway said: Since this is an experimental tournament, I would like to see an experimental lineup in 352 setup for next game. Vitoria, Borjan, and Miller…should take a break and be reconsidered if we make it to the knockout rounds. ———————St. Clair——————— ——Bombito-McGraw-Kennedy——— Laryea—Ahmed——Loturi———Millar —-—————Nelson———————— —————JRR——Cavallini—————— Subs: Zator \\ Bombito ZBG \\ Laryea Shaffelburg \\ Millar Where is Hoilett? king1010 and costarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, DeRo_Is_King said: Where is Hoilett? On the bench… I expect nothing from this tournament reason why I said “experimental tournament” and “experimental lineup”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Joe Keeper said: Was anything officially said about why Ugbo and Corbeanu arnt here? The addition of these two would have added a massive lift to the team. We are so thin at forward. With the top guys out, this should be their time to get elevated. This roster needs goal threats. I know their club situations are not secure but that doesnt explain their absence. We have called players with similar or worse club situations. This roster baffles me. Corbeanu effectively hasn’t played meaningful soccer since last fall and Ugbo has barely played more than that himself. I think watching the game last night you can see spots where either could’ve helped us- bring on Ugbo over JRR might‘ve been a good move, but it isn’t like either are in good form right now. also, Ugbo looks like he’s currently on vacation in LA with Tomori. Not speculating at all, but I dunno if “come to the gold cup and be Lucas Cavallini’s backup” is an enticing prospect for him to cancel his vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, Shway said: On the bench… I expect nothing from this tournament reason why I said “experimental tournament” and “experimental lineup”. Would be an experimental lineup indeed. I also want to see new blood, but we should still field a competitive team. We may do better against Guatemala, but judging by yesterday's game, we will need more firepower to get the job done. I'm willing to give McGraw another chance in a back four playing in his more natural central role, but I am concerned he'll get burnt regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, DeRo_Is_King said: We may do better against Guatemala, but judging by yesterday's game, we will need more firepower to get the job done. That's the the main issue, there isn't much firepower at all in this squad. This is the form of the starters of last night. Cavallini - 2 goals this year, last goal was Mar 18th JRR - 2 goals this season, last got May 14th Hoilett - 1 goal this season, scored on August 17th, 22 Millar - 1 goal this season, score on July 28th, 22 As much as we talk about a CB crisis....we have an attacking one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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