Joe MacCarthy Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 rkomar, Canuckia and Obinna 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) On 7/15/2024 at 6:00 AM, Obinna said: I am fine with them all automatically qualifying. It's their tournament. We are guests. I know this, and I don't suspect it is going to change. But to me, repeatedly doing it like we (concacaf) did makes us second fiddle, and we have to be better than that. We run a gold cup still, perhaps they need an additional tournament? To me, this tournament was a disaster (off the field - though including the fields themselves) and I think we shouldn't want to be guests to a bad party. But perhaps if there was a different tournament that wasn't theirs or ours, but shared, it could be better. I know it may be crazy, but maybe investing our energy in our own tournament and our own organization isn't so bad after all. Any partnership with CONMEBOL will have them looking down their nose at us. Edited July 16 by RJB Shway, Obinna and TOcanadafan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 11 hours ago, JamboAl said: But how do you do qualification when the international calendar is already over packed? Anyways, it’s CONMEBOL’s tournament, they aren’t going to exclude any of their countries for 2 more of CONCACAF’s. CONMEBOL world cup qualifying is totally unnecessary. So, I'd start there. They have a eighteen game league that lasts three years just to go from ten teams to seven. Shway, johnyb, xabuep2 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, RJB said: I know this, and I don't suspect it is going to change. But to me, repeatedly doing it like we (concacaf) did makes us second fiddle, and we have to be better than that. We run a gold cup still, perhaps they need an additional tournament? To me, this tournament was a disaster (off the field - though including the fields themselves) and I think we shouldn't want to be guests to a bad party. But perhaps if there was a different tournament that wasn't theirs or ours, but shared, it could be better. I know it may be crazy, but maybe investing our energy in our own tournament and our own organization isn't so bad after all. Any partnership with CONMEBOL will have them looking down their nose at us. Well I certainly agree with much of that, particularly the focusing on ourselves bit.. Despite the USA and Mexico getting grouped, which is not what we all expected, I think what we've seen is that upper level CONCACAF teams are competitive. We have no Argentina or even Uruguay in our confederation, and Panama will never transform into present-day Colombia, but Panama did give a pretty solid account of themselves. Canada exceeded expectations and earned their semi final birth. Costa Rica didn't advance, but they never finished bottom. Jamaica probably underachieved. All in all, we should be proud. The results from CONCACAF seem much better than in 2016, where Haiti were dog-walked (I was in stadium to watch them get smashed 7-1 by Brazil). No CONCACAF team was trounced that badly this time. Just looked it up. In 2016, CONCACAF had a combined goal difference of -19. This time? -8....and that's with USA and Mexico getting grouped. So, for me, all of this progress leaves me wanting more kicks at the can, so I welcome another 6 team CONCACAF invite to Copa America. Or, something new. Perhaps a small four team tournament, with the Gold Cup semi finalists versus the Copa America semi finalists. 2 groups of 4 like the old Confederations Cup: Group A: USA, Colombia, Panama, Brazil Group B: Argentina, Mexico, Uruguay, Canada Based on what we've seen, that would be competitive. Unnamed Trialist and RJB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 4 minutes ago, red card said: I bet he got in thru the vent. gigi riva, weathermanfran, lamptern and 13 others 4 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Obinna said: I bet he got in thru the vent. Or the sewer system. gigi riva, Ivan, costarg and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Obinna said: I bet he got in thru the vent. That fricking Thief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, red card said: Sitting with the suits. In his suit, no doubt. Let's see the selfie Nick, we want to know if we paid for your threads. RJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawafan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 13 hours ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Haven't seen this on here https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/colombia-soccer-federation-head-son-arrested-after-copa-america-final-2024-07-15/ "Colombia soccer federation head and son arrested after Copa America final" Probably just trying to secure their bag. Nothing to see here gigi riva and CanadaFan123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 CONMEBOL is probably a little busy dealing with the blowback from the off field criticisms... But doesn anyone know if they've released a team of the tournament? They've done this in previous versions, if I recall correctly. Of course, you can find some outlets that do their own version. I'll share this particular one, as it's given the nod to Shaffleburg: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/soccer/copa-america-2024-team-of-the-tournament-best-xi/ar-BB1q1S2x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 On 7/12/2024 at 1:38 PM, red card said: Copa & Euros in some respects have been a different sport. Way more passing in Euros. Copa's style likely impacted by smaller pitches, hotter temps, bad grass, more physical play & more liberal refs. Possibly also due to more dribbling and more vertical passing in Copa matches. Top 20 pass happy matches are all from the Euros. 3 of 4 Canada matches make the bottom 20. How many times did we draw Chile 0-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 18 hours ago, gigi riva said: That fricking Thief Pardon? You may not have liked his leadership, but I don't think it is fair to call him a thief. Were there allegations of corruption I missed? maplebanana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Kent said: How many times did we draw Chile 0-0? Peru & Canada have similar flags. Peruvians call Canada's flag "Peru Premium". Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Kent said: How many times did we draw Chile 0-0? It's not so easy to distinguish, but one of those is actually Peru-Chile. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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themodelcitizen Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 6 hours ago, Kent said: How many times did we draw Chile 0-0? That's Peru in the bottom one... either that or we beat ourselves 1-0 further up (Maple Leaf is slightly higher in the flag than their crest I think) Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 hours ago, Obinna said: CONMEBOL is probably a little busy dealing with the blowback from the off field criticisms... But doesn anyone know if they've released a team of the tournament? They've done this in previous versions, if I recall correctly. Of course, you can find some outlets that do their own version. I'll share this particular one, as it's given the nod to Shaffleburg: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/soccer/copa-america-2024-team-of-the-tournament-best-xi/ar-BB1q1S2x That's a good team, not cliche, quite well considered. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 hours ago, Obinna said: CONMEBOL is probably a little busy dealing with the blowback from the off field criticisms... But doesn anyone know if they've released a team of the tournament? They've done this in previous versions, if I recall correctly. Of course, you can find some outlets that do their own version. I'll share this particular one, as it's given the nod to Shaffleburg: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/soccer/copa-america-2024-team-of-the-tournament-best-xi/ar-BB1q1S2x I think this is for the final and our third place match, no Canucks . Think this is CONMEBOL. https://www.infobae.com/colombia/deportes/2024/07/16/cuatro-colombianos-estan-en-el-once-ideal-de-la-ultima-fecha-de-la-copa-america-conozca-quienes-son/ Here's one with Davies our lone representative. https://www.winsports.co/mas-futbol-internacional/noticias/imperdible-mira-el-equipo-ideal-de-la-copa-america-2024 This is one based on match ratings, no Canadians, only one Colombian. https://bolavip.com/co/copa-america/el-polemico-once-ideal-de-la-copa-america-2024-donde-solamente-aparece-un-colombiano Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensco Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) ^I don’t think Shaffelburg belongs on a best XI list as, much as it pains me to say it, he was absolutely awful in the Argentina semifinal (which I just rewatched last night). It was painful to rewatch…. as we actually played really well generally in that game, and the refereeing was a major factor, it was truly, horribly one sided. But both Larin and Shaffelburg had poor first touches pretty much every time, and just generally sprayed the ball all over the place. Edited July 17 by ensco Ivan and jonovision 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensco Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 It is amusing to think that Canada's success was perhaps a major factor in getting both the US and Mexican managers canned. It is one thing to fail. But quite another to fail while the runt of the litter is having success… narduch and masster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, ensco said: ^I don’t think Shaffelburg belongs on a best XI list as, much as it pains me to say it, he was absolutely awful in the Argentina semifinal (which I just rewatched last night). It was painful to rewatch…. as we actually played really well generally in that game, and the refereeing was a major factor, it was truly, horribly one sided. But both Larin and Shaffelburg had poor first touches pretty much every time, and just generally sprayed the ball all over the place. I think Johnston as best RB probably makes the most sense. Canuckia, clamlinguine, Corazon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) Osorio, Laryea, Choiniere, Waterman and Piette all back starting for their respective clubs tonight straight from the Copa Edited July 17 by narduch Obinna, Canuckia, lamptern and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cpe39n00ng2o As the Argentina squad is under fire for their post-victory singing, here's a good explanation about it. Tim Vickery typically has a good pulse on South American football, so his takes are appreciated. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballerz Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 What is the infatuation of calling the French national team the African team, especially for a country which is really Italy? Obinna, The Real Marc and nolando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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