WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted Friday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:54 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Re: Chile, interestingly enough, we’ve played many of the same opponents as of recent. All since WC, except Qatar which we played like the week before. Cuba: Chile 3-0, Canada 4-2 France: Chile 3-2, Canada 0-0 Peru: Chile 0-0, 2-0, Canada 1-0 Uruguay: Chile 1-3, Canada 0-2 Qatar: Chile 2-2, Canada 2-0 We seem to draw very similar results. It will be interesting, Chile are older but have more players with pedigree (as compared to Peru). We saw they will be willing to mix it up but also: do the end of their golden generation want to show a little of their skill at probably their last big tournament? The older bit has to help us on a short turnaround in the heat. Doesn't it? Please say it does. Edited Friday at 02:55 PM by WestHamCanadianinOxford costarg and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted Friday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:10 PM 13 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: It will be interesting, Chile are older but have more players with pedigree (as compared to Peru). We saw they will be willing to mix it up but also: do the end of their golden generation want to show a little of their skill at probably their last big tournament? The older bit has to help us on a short turnaround in the heat. Doesn't it? Please say it does. I think you're right about an advantage with the short turnaround. But Canada had a much more difficult set of conditions to recover from on the second matchday than Argentina did playing late at night in New York. WestHamCanadianinOxford and PastPros 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted Friday at 03:11 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:11 PM 11 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: It will be interesting, Chile are older but have more players with pedigree (as compared to Peru). We saw they will be willing to mix it up but also: do the end of their golden generation want to show a little of their skill at probably their last big tournament? The older bit has to help us on a short turnaround in the heat. Doesn't it? Please say it does. For all this talk about how some of our players who don’t play much are a bit rusty- Tajon namely, I feel like for Chile it’s worse, because it’s that + they’re old. Alexis Sanchez doesn’t play much, he’s not having a strong tournament. Vargas, their striker missed a big chunk of the season, he hasn’t had a good tournament either. Their right side will have a 36 year old RB and likely their RW who plays in Russia, seems like he’s a super sub there. If you’re lining up against Davies and any of our winger options- Laryea, Shaffelburg, Tajon, I feel like we can make a lot happen. WestHamCanadianinOxford, jhoops__, Mihairokov and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted Friday at 03:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:24 PM 39 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Re: Chile, interestingly enough, we’ve played many of the same opponents as of recent. All since WC, except Qatar which we played like the week before. Cuba: Chile 3-0, Canada 4-2 France: Chile 3-2, Canada 0-0 Peru: Chile 0-0, 2-0, Canada 1-0 Uruguay: Chile 1-3, Canada 0-2 Qatar: Chile 2-2, Canada 2-0 We seem to draw very similar results. That France match for Chile should be 2-3, not 3-2. 74 Whitecap and InglewoodJack 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted Friday at 03:37 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:37 PM .......it's starting, ESPN saying Messi will sit out next game so......... YorkRegionFan, narduch and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted Friday at 03:44 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:44 PM 21 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: For all this talk about how some of our players who don’t play much are a bit rusty- Tajon namely, I feel like for Chile it’s worse, because it’s that + they’re old. Alexis Sanchez doesn’t play much, he’s not having a strong tournament. Vargas, their striker missed a big chunk of the season, he hasn’t had a good tournament either. Their right side will have a 36 year old RB and likely their RW who plays in Russia, seems like he’s a super sub there. If you’re lining up against Davies and any of our winger options- Laryea, Shaffelburg, Tajon, I feel like we can make a lot happen. All those factors are in our favour but the biggest factor is that they need to win, so they need to generate offence with those guys and that plays into our counteracting pace advantage. I only saw the second half of their Argentina match and knew that they needed to win but they really impressed with how well they closed down in midield and then generated some top notch saves from Martinez. Maybe they have shot their bolt, so to speak, and might not be able to deliver on the same level Saturday night, which is also a plus for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted Friday at 03:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:48 PM (edited) Prime time Saturday, long weekend, no major sporting competition for people's attention. Big game, big consequences. Euro lead in. TSN pumping the hell out of it. The CMNT have an opportunity to make a big impact on the Canadian sports landscape this weekend Edited Friday at 03:55 PM by SpursFlu Cadeau, Fresh Prince of MTL, costarg and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted Friday at 04:17 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:17 PM (edited) 35 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: All those factors are in our favour but the biggest factor is that they need to win, so they need to generate offence with those guys and that plays into our counteracting pace advantage. I only saw the second half of their Argentina match and knew that they needed to win but they really impressed with how well they closed down in midield and then generated some top notch saves from Martinez. Maybe they have shot their bolt, so to speak, and might not be able to deliver on the same level Saturday night, which is also a plus for us. No matter how you cut it, it will be a difficult game. Chile is a good team, they have everything to lose, and probably also the added pressure of no South American team wants to get bounced from *their* tournament by Canada. Fully expect it to be our hardest game yet, but I think we can do it. Curious to what extent Marsch is going to park the bus. I think we’re too speedy and transition oriented to win a mud fight, but if we’re up/tied after like ‘60, does he move to a back 5? Put Bombito at DM and swap a striker for Miller? Dare I say Sam Piette hours? Stressed out just thinking about it. That said, with how important this is for Chile, there’s a good argument for this game being one of CANMNT’s most important games of all time, and for some of our guys, it’s the most important game they’ve ever played. Think we might see Shaffelburg die for the crest out there tomorrow night. Edited Friday at 04:20 PM by InglewoodJack 74 Whitecap, Canuckia and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihairokov Posted Friday at 04:27 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:27 PM (edited) 38 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Prime time Saturday, long weekend, no major sporting competition for people's attention. Big game, big consequences. Euro lead in. TSN pumping the hell out of it. Counting chickens before they hatch, if we finish runner-up in the group we play Friday, July 5, at 9PM EDT. Edited Friday at 04:27 PM by Mihairokov johnyb, jhoops__ and RS 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted Friday at 04:47 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:47 PM 20 minutes ago, Mihairokov said: Counting chickens before they hatch, if we finish runner-up in the group we play Friday, July 5, at 9PM EDT. Counting chickens before they hatch? Is there a chance the game will be canceled? Mattd97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted Friday at 04:54 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:54 PM Scaloni is suspended for the next game for the delay in bringing his guys out after half. Guess we need to actually win the Chile game. narduch and CanadaFan123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted Friday at 05:15 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:15 PM Think Chile will really press early, and my concern is that we've been a bit sloppy with our passes/turnovers. This game feels like both sides will have chances, and it's just dependent on which side can actually bury them. 74 Whitecap and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted Friday at 05:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:22 PM 54 minutes ago, Mihairokov said: Counting chickens before they hatch, if we finish runner-up in the group we play Friday, July 5, at 9PM EDT. There's also a game on Saturday (tomorrow) 😉 costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted Friday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:25 PM I don't know what the forecast is right now for Orlando, but when I looked yesterday I saw rain in the evening forcast, which looks like it'll cool things off to high 20s. That should be far more comfortable than a sunny +35 degrees in Kansas. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted Friday at 05:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:26 PM Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted Friday at 05:37 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:37 PM 11 minutes ago, Obinna said: I don't know what the forecast is right now for Orlando, but when I looked yesterday I saw rain in the evening forcast, which looks like it'll cool things off to high 20s. That should be far more comfortable than a sunny +35 degrees in Kansas. Still supposed to feel like 35 at kick but at least the sun will be down by ~8:20 or so. Obinna, An Observer and Canuckia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomoxis Posted Friday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:15 PM 1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said: Curious to what extent Marsch is going to park the bus. I think we’re too speedy and transition oriented to win a mud fight, but if we’re up/tied after like ‘60, does he move to a back 5? Put Bombito at DM and swap a striker for Miller? Dare I say Sam Piette hours? Stressed out just thinking about it. Maybe these narrower Copa pitches make Oso and Sam more playable later in the game. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted Friday at 06:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:18 PM 1 minute ago, Pomoxis said: Maybe these narrower Copa pitches make Oso and Sam more playable later in the game. Could be, but I believe the narrow pitches are mostly the NFL Stadia. Tomorrow will be at Orlando City's SSS. Is it that narrow? Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomoxis Posted Friday at 06:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:21 PM 2 minutes ago, Obinna said: Could be, but I believe the narrow pitches are mostly the NFL Stadia. Tomorrow will be at Orlando City's SSS. Is it that narrow? From what I read, they are playing the same pitch dimensions for all games. There was an article in The Athletic (NYTimes) about this. Canuckia, rkomar and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomoxis Posted Friday at 06:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:24 PM Why Copa America is being played on small fields - and what it means Canuckia, 74 Whitecap, narduch and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted Friday at 07:44 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:44 PM 1 hour ago, Pomoxis said: Why Copa America is being played on small fields - and what it means Avellino ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted Friday at 07:52 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:52 PM 1 hour ago, Obinna said: Could be, but I believe the narrow pitches are mostly the NFL Stadia. Tomorrow will be at Orlando City's SSS. Is it that narrow? But they narrowed all the soccer specific stadiums (and shortened them) so they were consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomoxis Posted Friday at 08:06 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:06 PM 20 minutes ago, SoccMan said: Avellino ? Heritage, albeit distant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted Friday at 08:13 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:13 PM 4 minutes ago, Pomoxis said: Heritage, albeit distant. Nice both my parents are from there, been there many times and attended a few games too. costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere already, but Chile's coach is also suspended? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/2024/06/28/argentina-chile-coaches-suspended-copa-america/74247476007/ narduch, Free kick, Canuckia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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