VinceA Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Obinna, narduch, Ivan and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) If true, this would do several things. The most obvious of these is that with a Gold Cups still scheduled to take place in 2023 and 2025 there is more incentive than ever before to have matches in a greater variety of urban areas including hosting matches outside the USA. Edited December 7, 2022 by Olympique_de_Marseille mrtoddcan and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 This would be cool in terms of making some of these games more accessible to Canadians - but it is funny that the US frequently encounter challenges playing road games in hostile environments and yet they potentially continue to host more regional tournaments. I get the economic argument - and presumably it is the most dominant consideration - but the idea of getting used to playing away matches in places like South America seems attractive from a competitive standpoint. Maybe it isn’t a big deal since 2026 will all be whole games for them as well but at some point they need to go out to parties and stop just inviting people over. ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, dyslexic nam said: but it is funny that the US frequently encounter challenges playing road games in hostile environments....Maybe it isn’t a big deal since 2026 Ya, that argument will return in the Fall of 2026 for the US and for Canada. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 This is going to be very important for the program. Being a host for the WC can be like a poisoned chalice, yes you qualify autmatically but you dont get to play in any competitve matches which is going to hurt you. So how can you prepare properly for the WC without something like Copa? Yes, you still need friendlies, but friendlies dont have the same significance anymore. Your opponent will use them to experiment you you cant properly assess or evaluate when there is nothing on the line in those matches. TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 So this is a done deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, youllneverwalkalone said: So this is a done deal? No, but if the rumour that Ecuador is withdrawing their right to host is true, then it opens the way for a 16 team competition hosted in the USA. This is looking very likely. johnyb, youllneverwalkalone, mrtoddcan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) A lot of political subtext to the Copa America answer. Vic clearly irritated with national FAs trying to do an end run. Edited December 8, 2022 by CanadianSoccerFan Jedi Ram, johnyb, mrtoddcan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: No, but if the rumour that Ecuador is withdrawing their right to host is true, then it opens the way for a 16 team competition hosted in the USA. This is looking very likely. I think Ecuador withdrew a while ago, and just no new host had been selected yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I'd be shocked if it isn't in the US. For once, it's good practice for them as they'll be hosting top teams in 2026 - might as well get use to this in 2024 Copa America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: This would be cool in terms of making some of these games more accessible to Canadians - but it is funny that the US frequently encounter challenges playing road games in hostile environments and yet they potentially continue to host more regional tournaments. I get the economic argument - and presumably it is the most dominant consideration - but the idea of getting used to playing away matches in places like South America seems attractive from a competitive standpoint. Maybe it isn’t a big deal since 2026 will all be whole games for them as well but at some point they need to go out to parties and stop just inviting people over. Yeah, that's always the thing. The US seems eager to host all of these types of events (it was one of the sticking points on the original joint-Copa discussions) but I think it sets the team back and I'm surprised they've never really realized it. Playing better competition is one thing (and the US, Mexico and now Canada all need it), but playing competition in a more hostile environment is another. mrtoddcan and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ansem said: I'd be shocked if it isn't in the US. For once, it's good practice for them as they'll be hosting top teams in 2026 - might as well get use to this in 2024 Copa America Yes, if there's one thing the US needs practice at it's hosting international events. Edit: It won't happen, but the Copa should also be a joint event between Canada/US/Mexico. Now THAT would be good practice for 2026 and to see what kinks need to be ironed out. Edited December 8, 2022 by Watchmen mrtoddcan, RS, Corazon and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Watchmen said: Yes, if there's one thing the US needs practice at it's hosting international events. The current US team specifically. How many current players we're at Centenario? 1 or 2? They rarely face this level of competition at home for a cup. That's what I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead69 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 This is pretty dope More elite tournament experience is never a bad thing mrtoddcan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Watchmen said: Yes, if there's one thing the US needs practice at it's hosting international events. Edit: It won't happen, but the Copa should also be a joint event between Canada/US/Mexico. Now THAT would be good practice for 2026 and to see what kinks need to be ironed out. lol why.....Canada only has a few games. Not much practice is needed. And the attitude shows when they consider hosting the tournament solely in the US as prep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Love it. Hoping for regional group stages so it's reasonable to go to a couple games If they're smart they should do a play in for the final 3 spots. Give big draws like El Salvador a chance to play in So take Concacaf 4-9 in a 1 off to settle the last 3 places in the tournament just prior to the group stage. They've done something similar for Gold Cup Edited December 8, 2022 by SpursFlu johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 hours ago, SpursFlu said: Love it. Hoping for regional group stages so it's reasonable to go to a couple games If they're smart they should do a play in for the final 3 spots. Give big draws like El Salvador a chance to play in So take Concacaf 4-9 in a 1 off to settle the last 3 places in the tournament just prior to the group stage. They've done something similar for Gold Cup They actually did something similar for the 2016 Copa America so I wouldn’t be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, CanadaFan123 said: They actually did something similar for the 2016 Copa America so I wouldn’t be surprised. Yes the best finishers in the 2015 gold cup got spots, we missed out because we couldn’t score and Marcus Haber was 6 inches offside in the Costa Rica game at BMO gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I was hoping that this tournament would be somewhere other than the USA...but whatever I'll take it. We need the preparations for the next world cup. I just hope they don't price out the fans.... mrtoddcan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alex said: Yes the best finishers in the 2015 gold cup got spots, we missed out because we couldn’t score and Marcus Haber was 6 inches offside in the Costa Rica game at BMO But what I'm saying is as part of the actual tournament. So 3 days or within a week you have games for instance Panama v Haiti Honduras v El Salvador Jamaica v Costa Rica Those could be the best games of the tournament. If it wasn't Conmebols tournament you could probably drop Bolivia and Venezuelan in tonthat group but they'll probably want to protect their teams Edited December 8, 2022 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 By the end of next year, I feel like this ranking will change significantly. But they could have the qualification requirements already determined before the Gold Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 2:02 PM, VinceA said: A 16 nation Copa America for 2024 I actually would love that but I wonder who the other 3 CONCACAF Nations would be that they invite other than Canada, USA and Mexico longlugan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The other 3 countries that I would invite would be Jamaica, Costa Rica and Panama Obinna and gigi riva 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, TGAA_Star said: The other 3 countries that I would invite would be Jamaica, Costa Rica and Panama Those are my choices as well. El Salvador and Honduras though would bring in more fans than each of those teams, though. Plus you could argue they'd be just as competitive, more or less (with the exception of Costa Rica, who had a good WC). If I were trying to balance team strength and potential revenue, I would probably go with Costa Rica, Panama, and El Salvador ....sorry not sorry, honduras. Finally, quick point on Jamaica. I bet they'd use the invite to bring more dual internationals from England on board. It kind of irks me how they rely on England so much, but I also want to see Jamaica be as strong as possible. If they can use that to get more English players in the door, some may stick around. Furthermore, the ones who are in the door will have a reason to keep showing up. For that reason I hope Jamaica get invited. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 ala Jamaica, I'll also watch to see if Suriname gets a boost from dual nationals looking to play for a home squad ahead of a 2026 WC run... gigi riva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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