Allez les Rouges Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I'm not sure one can really say NED/USA was like CRO/CAN. I'd say that CRO was more dominant in the last 65 minutes vs. CAN than NED was vs. USA. Similarly, CAN was thoroughly dominated by MAR in the first 30 minutes, while ARG scored on pretty much its only chance in the first half. Due to both player form/health and coach tactics, we had a big hole in the middle that neither the USA or AUS had. I just hope the Round of 16 doesn't prove to be the end of upsets. Would be a letdown after such an exciting Group Stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, Allez les Rouges said: I'm not sure one can really say NED/USA was like CRO/CAN. I'd say that CRO was more dominant in the last 65 minutes vs. CAN than NED was vs. USA. Similarly, CAN was thoroughly dominated by MAR in the first 30 minutes, while ARG scored on pretty much its only chance in the first half. Due to both player form/health and coach tactics, we had a big hole in the middle that neither the USA or AUS had. I just hope the Round of 16 doesn't prove to be the end of upsets. Would be a letdown after such an exciting Group Stage. Australia did nothing of note until they scored. They were only in the match for 20 minutes but nearly made it count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 11 hours ago, 74 Whitecap said: Was going to log on at halftime to say the same, but you beat me to it. Gotta figure van Gaal drew it up that way, great execution by the Dutch. I wonder if Berhalter thinks the U.S. is dominating this game... That was meant to be a joke above, posted at haltfime, but apparently he did think they were dominating: 😀 I can't even... rightback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 41 minutes ago, Allez les Rouges said: I'm not sure one can really say NED/USA was like CRO/CAN. I'd say that CRO was more dominant in the last 65 minutes vs. CAN than NED was vs. USA. Similarly, CAN was thoroughly dominated by MAR in the first 30 minutes, while ARG scored on pretty much its only chance in the first half. Due to both player form/health and coach tactics, we had a big hole in the middle that neither the USA or AUS had. I just hope the Round of 16 doesn't prove to be the end of upsets. Would be a letdown after such an exciting Group Stage. I think the two games were similar, because it felt when the Dutch wanted to break down the US defenders, they did it with ease, just like Croatia did with us. This was an elimination game, so they took less risks than Croatia did with us. This US match could of easily been 5-1, if they didn't play conservatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, 74 Whitecap said: That was meant to be a joke above, posted at haltfime, but apparently he did think they were dominating: 😀 I can't even... I guess Berhalter wasn't entirely wrong that USA carried the play until the first Netherlands goal... a whole 9 minutes into the match. Canada dominated for longer against Croatia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, jonovision said: Australia did nothing of note until they scored. They were only in the match for 20 minutes but nearly made it count. Considering that Australia got to Qatar by winning a repechage against Peru, they were over achievers to get to the round of 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I'm not watching France either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_world Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Good to see France score. Poland was playing some very boring and turtling football (but of course, that is the best formation and strategy for Poland against a better side than them). This should force Poland to open up and take more risks in the second half, which is good for entertainment. About turtling and defensive football that depends on the quick counter attack, maybe this is something Canada should have done, especially against Croatia. Turtling and defensive football with quick counter attacks is how Greece won the European Cup with a much less talented team. Edited December 4, 2022 by football_world lamptern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I'm not watching France either. I'm not finding the knock out stage very compelling. But I don't know if its because following Canada has sapped my emotional energy for the entire event now. I will probably hate watch England later on though Edited December 4, 2022 by narduch WestHamCanadianinOxford and 74 Whitecap 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Areola vs. an easier opponent for England for me in this one. Go Lewandowski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Matty Cash having the game of his life, shame probably not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74 Whitecap Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 54 minutes ago, narduch said: I'm not finding the knock out stage very compelling. But I don't know if its because following Canada has sapped my emotional energy for the entire event now. I will probably hate watch England later on though Well, notwithstanding some U.S. dominance, it has been pretty one-sided so far. Hopefully Senegal can make England sweat at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Davies-like penalty from one of the best in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Davies-like penalty from one of the best in the world. If he only he too had gotten a chance to retake it WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 It's looking to me like the Gods are trying to give us a Portugal Argentina final. Ronaldo v Messi. I don't think that it's reasonable to have their careers come down to this, however it would be exceptional theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, RJB said: It's looking to me like the Gods are trying to give us a Portugal Argentina final. Ronaldo v Messi. I don't think that it's reasonable to have their careers come down to this, however it would be exceptional theatre. Some would say "Gods" is an overly kind term for the forces at work. 😉 74 Whitecap and RJB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allez les Rouges Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 15 hours ago, jonovision said: Australia did nothing of note until they scored. They were only in the match for 20 minutes but nearly made it count. True, but Canada's first half hour against Morocco was almost embarrassing, while Australia was sound defensively. I'd like to be encouraged by what happened subsequently, but I feel that Morocco just took its foot off the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allez les Rouges Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 15 hours ago, SoCalTransport said: I think the two games were similar, because it felt when the Dutch wanted to break down the US defenders, they did it with ease, just like Croatia did with us. This was an elimination game, so they took less risks than Croatia did with us. This US match could of easily been 5-1, if they didn't play conservatively. Good point. Then again, if the US had actually scored the go-ahead goal, they could have played more conservatively and not get picked apart as Canada did. I'd say that Canada's loss against Croatia was more like Australia's loss against France in the group stage. And Croatia is definitely not as good a team as France... lamptern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Great save by Pickford and then a great break and a goal by someone I didn't think should have started. Edit: Now Kane's first despite England being up there in goal scored at this tournament. Edited December 4, 2022 by WestHamCanadianinOxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_world Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 In hindsight, the US drawing England, and even the US controlling much of the game against England, was a huge accomplishment, seeing how England is ripping apart Senegal now in the Ro16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, football_world said: In hindsight, the US drawing England, and even the US controlling much of the game against England, was a huge accomplishment, seeing how England is ripping apart Senegal now in the Ro16. The US certainly has a better midfield than Senegal in my opinion. Turnovers there is what turned this game. England needed/needs to find confidence against halfway decent sides. Southgate needs to trust the fact that he has some very good midfielders. Though Henderson for Mount was a change that I give credit to him for making. Dier on - reason for Senegal hope. football_world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Sets up a tasty tie with the French. England have had good luck with draws under Southgate but they will need to earn it this time to get to the semis or final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 That England performance was probably the most smooth and professional of the entire World Cup, they clicked perfectly. I admit, though I am not an England fan, that I liked this group at the last Euro, mostly because of the youth, helped by the lack of bombast. It's a very balanced side and has depth, they play as a real team, very coordinated, and are spirited. While France would be slight favourite, it could go either way. Kane is going to have do a little more, the only top player yet to really make his mark. Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_S Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Went to a pub here in Calgary to watch the England game with my best friend who was raised in Oxford. They didn't have to sweat too much in this match. He usually watches games with his 80 yr old Caribbean mom but she chose church over footy today. Ran into Kevin McKenna's brother too, who I talked to many times 20 years ago with the Calgary Storm. Nobody recognizes me anymore since I went back to my hippy roots lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I anticipate that the team winning will be the one with the goalkeeper who allows the least amount of goals due to his errors in positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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