Gian-Luca Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, kacbru said: He might want to take next year to observe at a distance as well, there's no quick fix here. The whole observational thing is b.s. IMO, I think he's just trying to make his stats look good by taking over on the final game since there was no chance they were going to win those games on the road, whereas they have a shot at not losing at home in the final game. Although I wasn't impressed with Dunfield's interim stint, I feel bad for him given that, since Herdman's actual hiring, he has basically been used as a "patsy" worse than Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly was. These last two games should still go on Herdman's record, but I bet they won't courtesy of whoever does the official stats. Edited October 10, 2023 by Gian-Luca Bison44, kacbru, Corazon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Still don't thinknit happens yomurphy1 and YorkRegionFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 So they jack up his wage to get him here, then we cant move him back out because his wage is too high. And the piles of cash he is getting isnt enough to motivate him to play here in canada?? F#CK ME. Why do they keep signing guys like this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Can't Insigne and the club mutually agree to alter the terms of the contract? Seems logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, Stoppage Time said: Can't Insigne and the club mutually agree to alter the terms of the contract? Seems logical. I am sure they can. But I assume Insigne wants to return to Serie A and still get paid $7.5 a year. It depends on who blinks first. Likely, TFC will eat a portion of it to get rid of him. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) Insigne gets paid $15 million per year by the way Edited October 11, 2023 by narduch Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 12 hours ago, narduch said: Insugne gets paid $15 million per year by the way I know this could definitely be a manipulated number but reported in 2023 it was $7.5 million per year. https://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, Ruffian said: I know this could definitely be a manipulated number but reported in 2023 it was $7.5 million per year. https://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide The other $7.5 million is a 'Personal Services Contract' with TFC that they leave off the MLSPA docs for some reason. He is soooo over paid is why I don't think he will leave. Maybe he plays 1 more season. Banks all that money for 1 more year and then leaves. Sort of like what Giovinco did in Saudi Arabia Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, narduch said: The other $7.5 million is a 'Personal Services Contract' with TFC that they leave off the MLSPA docs for some reason. He is soooo over paid is why I don't think he will leave. Maybe he plays 1 more season. Banks all that money for 1 more year and then leaves. Sort of like what Giovinco did in Saudi Arabia That's one of MLS's all time most unmovable contracts. How the management person who signed off on this one deal alone is still employed by the ownership is mind boggling to me. Ruffian, narduch and costarg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomurphy1 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: That's one of MLS's all time most unmovable contracts. How the management person who signed off on this one deal alone is still employed by the ownership is mind boggling to me. I mean he was one of the top expiring contracts on Transfermarkt... An Observer and nfitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, yomurphy1 said: I mean he was one of the top expiring contracts on Transfermarkt... But they paid him about 5 times what he could get in Europe. Thats the issue BearcatSA, costarg and Ruffian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, narduch said: But they paid him about 5 times what he could get in Europe. Thats the issue The Caps MLS 1.0 management trio of Bobby L., Greg A., and Rachel L. look like moneyball geniuses in comparison. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 3:06 PM, Bison44 said: So they jack up his wage to get him here, then we cant move him back out because his wage is too high. And the piles of cash he is getting isnt enough to motivate him to play here in canada?? F#CK ME. Why do they keep signing guys like this?? It's TFC. Why wreck a good tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Lol. YorkRegionFan, BearcatSA, Corazon and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastPros Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, narduch said: Lol. I am not surprised. He never looked fit (spare tire syndrome). Edited October 12, 2023 by PastPros narduch and to70 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Bold move John, that will send a message. Does he know there is only one game left? Bison44 and narduch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Looks like they have Ibarred him from the dressing room a game early Kadenge, MtlMario, narduch and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Ibarra must be wondering whats going on.... he goes home early and Herdman starts 6 weeks too late. Goal_Kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: Looks like they have Ibarred him from the dressing room a game early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 9:06 PM, Bison44 said: So they jack up his wage to get him here, then we cant move him back out because his wage is too high. And the piles of cash he is getting isnt enough to motivate him to play here in canada?? F#CK ME. Why do they keep signing guys like this?? Sounds like they took a page from Barça's accounting these last few years. So that's a comparison to be proud of. You can always loan him out to a club willing to pay 2/3s of the salary or so, which'd free that up for other signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 10:00 PM, narduch said: Insigne gets paid $15 million per year by the way He made close to 15 million his first year. The way the numbers look, he must of had a 10 million dollar signing bonus, since it was a free transfer. TFC paid a 10 million dollar transfer fee to get Defoe, so when adjusted for inflation, the deals are fairly similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, SoCalTransport said: He made close to 15 million his first year. The way the numbers look, he must of had a 10 million dollar signing bonus, since it was a free transfer. TFC paid a 10 million dollar transfer fee to get Defoe, so when adjusted for inflation, the deals are fairly similar. Whatever the real number is, he gets paid way more than what his value is in Europe. That wasn't the case with Defoe. And it's why they were able to offload him Edited October 13, 2023 by narduch Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, narduch said: Whatever the real number is, he gets paid way more than what his value is in Europe. That wasn't the case with Defoe. And it's why they were able to offload him That's a big difference. Supply/demand. Hey, even the Saudis aren't in the running for him (maybe they are, who knows?). But man, that's a BAD contract. When does this deal end? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: That's a big difference. Supply/demand. Hey, even the Saudis aren't in the running for him (maybe they are, who knows?). But man, that's a BAD contract. When does this deal end? I don't think his wife would even let him go to Saudi Arabia if he wanted. Just as an aside, I have inside knowledge that Bernardeschi considered Saudi Arabia and his wife put a stop to that BearcatSA, nfitz, YorkRegionFan and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkRegionFan Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Michael Bradley is retiring. https://www.torontofc.ca/news/club-captain-and-legend-michael-bradley-to-retire-at-the-end-of-the-season narduch and ray 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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