Big_M Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 so his first game as head coach will be against arfield...hilarious did great qualifying canada to the world cup but should be noted that head coaching at club and national team levels are very different and he has no experience as head coach of a pro club team...in any case best wishes to him but a trio of manning herdman hernandez seems unlikely to work out...and if it doesnt then its probably the end for manning narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, Big_M said: so his first game as head coach will be against arfield...hilarious did great qualifying canada to the world cup but should be noted that head coaching at club and national team levels are very different and he has no experience as head coach of a pro club team...in any case best wishes to him but a trio of manning herdman hernandez seems unlikely to work out...and if it doesnt then its probably the end for manning He's not taking over until October? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 october 4th charlotte vs tfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Yeah, according to their press release he doesn't start working until October 1st. Not sure if that's a "transition things for Canada" time that he or the CSA requested, but the team will be officially eliminated for a long time by then. https://www.torontofc.ca/news/toronto-fc-name-john-herdman-as-head-coach narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BearcatSA said: Well, let's what his job title would be (aame as Bradley Sr.'s?) and who brings for assistants. The CSA announcemnt noted that "Also departing Canada Soccer will be Assistant Coaches Simon Eaddy and Eric Tenllado, Lead Scout, Alex Dodgshon, and Head of Performance, Dr. Cesar Meylan." Meylan and Eaddy came with him from New Zealand over a decade ago. I'd assume all will be joining TFC. Hopefully this will mean less injuries.https://canadasoccer.com/news/john-herdman-departs-canada-soccer-mens-national-team/ Edited August 28, 2023 by nfitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Considering that Jack said the TFC job was a "great" one, he didn't mention in the One Soccer panel show regarding Herdman about any messages he received from people interested in that position as compared to what he received about the CMNT job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 No idea if this is true or not: but suspect it's more that MLSE don't want any honeymoon period with John Herdman to be over before season ticket renewal season is out of the way. Guess they also have Giovinco waiting in the wings for that, if Herdman wants to proceed in that direction. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: No idea if this is true or not: but suspect it's more that MLSE don't want any honeymoon period with John Herdman to be over before season ticket renewal season is out of the way. Guess they also have Giovinco waiting in the wings for that, if Herdman wants to proceed in that direction. Maybe this explains why we are not having Sept friendlies - it interfered with John's preparation for his keynote to BC mayors and councilors. Interesting that the publication date below is Aug 2, but it also does not refer to him as the CMNT coach, rather that he is an internationally renowned coach. Did UBCM know about his move to TFC before the CSA? John Herdman to headline 2023 Convention Publishing Date August 2, 2023 Our keynote speaker for 2023 Convention is John Herdman: an internationally renowned soccer coach, who has led Canada’s women's and men’s teams to record-breaking victories, and developed his own philosophy around how to organize the game. Herdman is known for his leadership philosophy which he applied to the struggling Canadian men’s soccer team. When he became head coach in 2018, the team was placed 72nd in FIFA World Rankings. By 2022, the team made history qualifying for the FIFA World Cup for the first time since 1986—where they also scored Canada’s first-ever men’s goal at FIFA—and upped their international ranking to 45th. Before that he coached the Canadian women’s team while they won historic back-to-back bronze medals at the 2012 and 2016 Olympics—the first Canadian summer Olympics team to do so in over a century. The team also placed sixth at the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup. Herdman is the first Canadian coach to qualify both a women’s and men’s national team for the World Cup. His keynote address is on Wednesday morning. Register for 2023 Convention here. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 https://torontosun.com/sports/soccer/mls/toronto-fc/simmons-herdman-harnessed-to-perform-pinball-like-turn-around-for-tfc This article confirms that Herdman is in because he just happened to be available. Yup, that's sounds about right for Manning. narduch, DoyleG and Gian-Luca 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Seems to confirm they are paying JH well too, right at the end of the article. “Doesn’t come cheap”. I think he will do well in the short term, but TFC never learns: “It’s not working? Spend more $$! Get a big name!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, shorty said: Seems to confirm they are paying JH well too, right at the end of the article. “Doesn’t come cheap”. I think he will do well in the short term, but TFC never learns: “It’s not working? Spend more $$! Get a big name!” This is probably true, though the article is a Steve Simmons piece so I doubt an iota of research went into that comment. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 It's enough of a miracle that he is even writing about soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Lol. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtroads Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Hope Herdman's training staff that he's bringing in can keep people on the field. narduch, nfitz and PastPros 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 This should say Robyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 13 hours ago, kacbru said: Maybe this explains why we are not having Sept friendlies ... Unlikely - the story (on page 1!) of today's Star says it was the cancelling of fall friendlies (against Saudi Arabia and South Korea - both in England) that was one of the last straw's leading to him approaching TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 So would anyone mind: who's going to be on Herdman's team at TFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: So would anyone mind: who's going to be on Herdman's team at TFC? Do you mean the coaching team/staff, players, or both? For coaching team & staff, we've heard Robyn Gayle (the only national team staff to transfer over thus far) and Terry Dunfield. For players, I'm guessing the solid bets still to be with the team starting day 2024 are Sean Johnson & Osorio (unless the latter is one of the National team players that had started tuning out or soured on Herdman). Kobe Franklin would be my next gues as still being there in early 2024 - he's the only member of the defense I'd still want to keep (except maybe Gutierrez if someone can find him a magic cure for being made out of glass, although everyone they sign seems to have the same disease). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 12:03 PM, mtroads said: Hope Herdman's training staff that he's bringing in can keep people on the field. One his physio guys (who worked on Davies in Qatar) has a private practice in North Vancouver, so I doubt he's following him to TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: & Osorio (unless the latter is one of the National team players that had started tuning out or soured on Herdman). Osorio gave Herdman a million reasons to sub him out at the GC, and Herdman would not. Pretty certain Osorio is safe if he wants to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: For coaching team & staff, we've heard Robyn Gayle (the only national team staff to transfer over thus far) and Terry Dunfield. A goalkeeper coach should be on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1997 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I fucking live this shit, Insigne and Berna showing passion>>>>>>>>>>> canuckgbp and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Good news, Herdman has already fixed TFC! Corazon, narduch, Kingston and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: Do you mean the coaching team/staff, players, or both? For coaching team & staff, we've heard Robyn Gayle (the only national team staff to transfer over thus far) and Terry Dunfield. For players, I'm guessing the solid bets still to be with the team starting day 2024 are Sean Johnson & Osorio (unless the latter is one of the National team players that had started tuning out or soured on Herdman). Kobe Franklin would be my next gues as still being there in early 2024 - he's the only member of the defense I'd still want to keep (except maybe Gutierrez if someone can find him a magic cure for being made out of glass, although everyone they sign seems to have the same disease). I meant coaching staff. I think Eady goes with him, and maybe Tenllado. They don't stay with Canada and the way he spoke to the press I thought it was a team package, he referred to the analytics for example. I always thought Herdman negotiated a coaching staff deal with Canada to complement his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I meant coaching staff. I think Eady goes with him, and maybe Tenllado. They don't stay with Canada and the way he spoke to the press I thought it was a team package, he referred to the analytics for example. I always thought Herdman negotiated a coaching staff deal with Canada to complement his own. I mentioned this in another thread but might as well post here that Tenlado was also at the game tonight Corazon and Unnamed Trialist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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