Watchmen Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 The Herdman part is getting discussion over in the NT thread, but the part that caught my eye was that they've had discussions with Carl Robinson as well. I'd be interested in that happening, only because there's a certain segment of the Whitecaps fan base that believes he failed in the end only because the Whitecaps were cheap. I tend to think that his tactics were just limited and the league caught up (and passed) him. Anyway, I'd enjoy seeing what happened if he took over. gator and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Watchmen said: The Herdman part is getting discussion over in the NT thread, but the part that caught my eye was that they've had discussions with Carl Robinson as well. I'd be interested in that happening, only because there's a certain segment of the Whitecaps fan base that believes he failed in the end only because the Whitecaps were cheap. I tend to think that his tactics were just limited and the league caught up (and passed) him. Anyway, I'd enjoy seeing what happened if he took over. Some people will just never get over the fact he was a woman's coach. I would love to see if he could have success at the club level since the Canadian men's team did well with him in WC qualifying. I just don't know if I want to bear all the internet negativity that would come with this move. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I'd take him. He seems to get the best out of his players, as opposed to Bradley who managed to make the team less than the sum of its parts. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Watchmen said: The Herdman part is getting discussion over in the NT thread, but the part that caught my eye was that they've had discussions with Carl Robinson as well. I'd be interested in that happening, only because there's a certain segment of the Whitecaps fan base that believes he failed in the end only because the Whitecaps were cheap. I tend to think that his tactics were just limited and the league caught up (and passed) him. Anyway, I'd enjoy seeing what happened if he took over. Carl Robinson, Marc dos Santos, Robin Fraser, Preki, Winter, Mariner, and certainly many others who have had bites at the head coaching cherry have or will be levelling out at the top assistant coach ceiling. As for Herdman, it's hard to predict how he would do but this seems like such a TFC move under this current top management. He might rock the kazbah or he might fall on his face like Klinny at Bayern Munich. I hope it is the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkRegionFan Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 John Herdman is more a motivator than a tactican. I am not sure if that is what is needed at TFC. Since the season is lost anyways, maybe if they wait until the end of the season, a coach like Wilfred Nancy gets fired and they can hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1997 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Herdman might be able to get the best out of the players currently there such as Insigne and Berna but they still need a CB, CM and a ST if they want to compete with the best of MLS. Can TFC afford 1 more DP, a u22 DP and a player on max TAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 If not, maybe they can afford this guy? Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: If not, maybe they can afford this guy? No, they cannot afford any additional old players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Jack1997 said: Herdman might be able to get the best out of the players currently there such as Insigne and Berna but they still need a CB, CM and a ST if they want to compete with the best of MLS. Can TFC afford 1 more DP, a u22 DP and a player on max TAM? The departures of MAK, Hedges, and Laryea free up about $3 million. So probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Another candidate, apparently: https://canadiansoccerdaily.com/2023/08/15/forge-fcs-bobby-smyrniotis-could-be-a-successful-toronto-fc-manager-if-tfc-allow-him-to-be/ narduch and YorkRegionFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Manning should not be allowed to rebuild this team. In any org the buck stops at the top. The club/team has been shambolic for at least 3 seasons now. #1 city in population, Ownership with deep pockets, a decent stadium, loads of young talent in the GTA. We need TFC to return to being a winner not just for MLS but for all the young soccer players in the area. There really should be no excuse for the direction this team has gone. Lots of turnover with players, coaches & GMs but 1 individual still stands at the bridge yomurphy1, Kingston, narduch and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatsheafSK Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 From the limited amount I have seen the Forge, Smyrniotis could do well at TFC. Appears to be much better tactically than Herdman. That said, I do like that Herdman has brought in youth to the national team. IMHO, TFC really needs to focus on internal development in the short run and move the old DPs on. With his man-management skills, he will at least bring unity back to this team. I would take Smyrniotis over Herdman, as I trust CSA to hire Neville if they lose Herdman. If CSA were to CSA hire Bielo, then I would take Herdman for the next 18-months. All to say, I would not be disappointed in either hire as there are positives to both. I hate having to weight the consequences for both TFC and CMNT, but I lack trust in both of their leadership to make the best decisions. Kingston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastPros Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) Sean Johnson out up to 6 weeks with fractured hand. Edited August 16, 2023 by PastPros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I am just hoping we see Lazar Stefanovic, Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty and Kobe Franklin starting this weekend. An appearance for Hugo Mbongue would be nice too. Ivan, Corazon, Stryker911 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We are currently 21-8-21 against Montreal so, barring a tie, someone will take the lead in the all time series this weekend. narduch, Metro and jonovision 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Result and details of the Friday August 18/23 MLS NEXT Pro game between Toronto FC II and New England Revolution II played at York Lions Stadium. A PK shootout was required to decide a winner. http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports23/23tfc254.htm jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 16 hours ago, narduch said: Actually good for TFC would rather keep Dunfield than Robinson, if Robinson is the type of coach they are after then there really is no hope for this team . narduch, HochelagaFC and Kadenge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 12:02 PM, Ruffian said: I am just hoping we see Lazar Stefanovic, Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty and Kobe Franklin starting this weekend. An appearance for Hugo Mbongue would be nice too. Have not seen anything in Hugo not even a glimpse of anything that tells me this player has any promise of making a go of it at this level of pro soccer . Hopefully he proves me wrong and starts to show us something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Anytime Robinson's name comes up, I always think back to his second year with TFC (I think). TFC had a free kick at the top of the 18 and Brennan was lining it up. Robinson marches over, literally pushes Brennan out of the way and then proceeds to sky it 20 feet over the bar. That's Robinson's legacy for me. I don't want anything to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Toronto signs Gavran thanks to the extreme hardship mechanism Toronto FC sign goalkeeper Luka Gavran Edited August 20, 2023 by Big_M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Makes sense. Johnson and RanjitSingh are both out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Now that is pathetic. PastPros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 JDG tearing TFC a new one and it's glorious. Not that I want to see the team fail but I just find it so refreshing to hear an intelligent member of the mainstream media go in on a Canadian club. We need less tip-toeing around soccer in general in this country and I hope this attitude will translate to how our media cover all of Canadian soccer. masster and PastPros 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 12:03 AM, BearcatSA said: No, you're right. I shouldn't be judging him but a player CV doesn't translate into a coaching CV, either (and his player CV is better than Arsene Wenger's, too). He's strictly an interim guy here but we'll see how things play out for the remainder of the season. Okay, I have seen enough. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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