phil03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Honestly at this stage I'd almost say they should cut the middle man. Have the player association negotiate straight with the CSB and when they reach a deal have them say ''sign here!'' to Soccer Canada. That way things like sponsorship revenues and their use could actually be part of the discussion instead of things basically going in circle with Soccer Canada both saying they are super poor without them but that the deal with CSB is still worth it which, regardless of one's opinion on the subject, is obviously not something the players are terribly interested to hear right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneC06 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Honestly, the CSB deal might be one of the worst in history for any federation. These guys literally sold their business for nothing! Is fucked up players don't get royalties for jersey sales, it's fucked up how were a month away from the world cup and players haven't paid their bonuses and have been asked to give back their gear and it's fucked up how people like Bontis act like there is no money but yes flying first class and buying $12,000 worth of suits for a bunch of guys nobody in this country has ever heard of. PegCityCam, Approve My Account Pls, Free kick and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, saladroit said: what the hell is this Who is this goof who thinks it makes him James Bond lol Olympique_de_Marseille, Sal333, Dominic94 and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneC06 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, saladroit said: what the hell is this This is bad! THIS IS REAL FRICKING BAD!!! PegCityCam, Sal333, Dominic94 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 My first reaction was to clinch my fist and damn those entitled do-nothings at the CSA, but then I realized they probably give back those suits as well. Is there anything confirming these executives keep the suits? If not what's the big deal? Mattd97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally McCoist Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Once again, fuck the CSB, Bontis out, and Cochrane out. That is all. jhoops__, Sal333, Dominic94 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boominbooty Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, ShaneC06 said: This is bad! THIS IS REAL FRICKING BAD!!! This is brutal. Can't make this shit up if you tried. "Hey guys, let's get some fancy suits so we look sharp, oh by the way, where's Larin's track suit? he hasn't returned it. We'll have to get it back or no playing time for him." Free kick, PegCityCam and Dominic94 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneC06 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Boominbooty said: This is brutal. Can't make this shit up if you tried. "Hey guys, let's get some fancy suits so we look sharp, oh by the way, where's Larin's track suit? he hasn't returned it. We'll have to get it back or no playing time for him." Bontis acts like he and the board accomplished shit. They did nothing! Sal333, narduch, Dominic94 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Boominbooty said: This is brutal. Can't make this shit up if you tried. "Hey guys, let's get some fancy suits so we look sharp, oh by the way, where's Larin's track suit? he hasn't returned it. We'll have to get it back or no playing time for him." Are we assuming these big wigs get to keep those suits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Obinna said: Are we assuming these big wigs get to keep those suits? Yes PegCityCam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Kadenge said: Yes Why are we assuming that without confirmation? Or, if there is confirmation, please let me know. I would be happy to pile on in light of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ShaneC06 said: Honestly, the CSB deal might be one of the worst in history for any federation. These guys literally sold their business for nothing! Is fucked up players don't get royalties for jersey sales, it's fucked up how were a month away from the world cup and players haven't paid their bonuses and have been asked to give back their gear and it's fucked up how people like Bontis act like there is no money but yes flying first class and buying $12,000 worth of suits for a bunch of guys nobody in this country has ever heard of. Honestly, as much as stuff like this is ridiculous its small amounts in the grand scheme of things. IMO the real issue is that, or at least that's that impression that I got from basically everything I read and listened to on the subject, is that head honchoes at Canada Soccer weren't so much guided by the benefits coming from having the CPL when making that deal, which are indeed very significant and worth making sizable sacrifices for, but by their personal desire for the CPL to be a thing. It wasn't about a thorough analysis of the needs of Canadian soccer, of what would pay out in the long run and of what should be accepted to get there but instead it was about their own desire to have their own league they could control and point to at gatherings with member of other federations and of their thirst for a legacy item for themselves. In term of negotiating position that would have been bad enough but on top of that they basically aired that desire publicly and repeatedly. They basically make their bargaining position as terrible as it could be. Their take coming in the talks should have been ''yeah, it would be great to get this done but push come to shove we can always push for more clubs in the USL instead or something and we definitely won't sign a deal we feel isn't worth it''. It doesn't matter whether this is true or not, that's the position they should have taken to get the best deal possible. Instead they basically did the opposite... Edited October 21, 2022 by phil03 PegCityCam, TOcanadafan and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Please disregard. The forum doubleposted my last comment for some reasons... Edited October 21, 2022 by phil03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 With the news that Davies has asked CSA to stop selling his jerseys, and seeing that David has his own marketing team. I'm going to assume they are the ones not wanting to give up their image rights for free. Dominic94, Obinna and Bison44 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shway said: With the news that Davies has asked CSA to stop selling his jerseys, and seeing that David has his own marketing team. I'm going to assume they are the ones not wanting to give up their image rights for free. How does this work for other federations with superstar players? Honest question. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, trc2014 said: How does this work for other federations with superstar players? Honest question. They probably get paid for it. No way Belgium, Germany, England get to use De Bruyne, Kimmich, or Foden for free. But those FA pay the players handsomely. I know Mbappe isn't used in (any) certain promotions for France....but he's a whole nother character. Dominic94 and Free kick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, trc2014 said: How does this work for other federations with superstar players? Honest question. Isn't Mbappe also currently arguing this same problem? Dominic94 and Ruud 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I imagine some major players will step away from Canada for at least a few years after the WC until things change. So likely the team will be back down to the 100 ranking we got accustomed too for years. Ottawafan, king1010 and Dominic94 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 It's funny with the Jesey thing.. I actually have a Jersey collection. Probably around 40 None of them have a players name. As a man I find it a little strange and a bit embarrassing to walk around with another man's name on my back. Maybe for little kids I think I have about 10 Canadian shirts. Phonzie is my favorite player but I'd never get a shirt with his name on it or anyone else of course Free kick, Dominic94 and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Obinna said: Why are we assuming that without confirmation? Or, if there is confirmation, please let me know. I would be happy to pile on in light of that. $11K to rent suits for Qatar? Unlikely. That's why the assumption is no return Dominic94, narduch, Mattd97 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, narduch said: Isn't Mbappe also currently arguing this same problem? he's arguing more about how he is used. He doesn’t want his face on promoting drinks like Coke, or McDonalds for example…. allegedly. Edited October 22, 2022 by Shway narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Other than David and Davies do any of the other players even have imagining rights of any real value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, SpursFlu said: It's funny with the Jesey thing.. I actually have a Jersey collection. Probably around 40 None of them have a players name. As a man I find it a little strange and a bit embarrassing to walk around with another man's name on my back. Maybe for little kids I think I have about 10 Canadian shirts. Phonzie is my favorite player but I'd never get a shirt with his name on it or anyone else of course your dick is probably long, fat and your balls are like gumballs too? Oooh soo macho! Mattd97, RS, PegCityCam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shway said: They probably get paid for it. No way Belgium, Germany, England get to use De Bruyne, Kimmich, or Foden for free. But those FA pay the players handsomely. I know Mbappe isn't used in (any) certain promotions for France....but he's a whole nother character. I'm pretty sure the English players play for free but in return for playing for England they get overpaid for playing for ManU, Liverpool and Chelsea. So everyone's happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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