CANCELLED WC Prep Match #1: Canada vs Iran - Sunday, June 5 BC Place, Vancouver

[Califax]

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Edited May 26, 2022 by Califax

[Unnamed Trialist]

A national team that is free.

A club on international break. 

A team of all-stars from a league.

They are all viable options, and the fact that the CSA was not looking at them over the past week is a serious error on their part. 

They really do despise Canadian fans, the cynicism is peak.

[Califax]

2 minutes ago, Obinna said:

It would look bad because it would be an emergency solution to mega fuck up of our own making. 

*Justin Trudeau's 😀 😀

(ducks)

[narduch]

4 minutes ago, Shway said:

Do you think it would be okay for Spain to play Bayern Munich, PSG or Man City? 
(You'll say no in your head, but yes here.)

As a rising nation with elite talent, this wouldn't be a good look regardless of the competition. 
I would prefer we played Catolonia or Basque or whoever, playing a club team has nothing to do with inferiority and more about simply "not being a good look".

Tell me when was the last time a national team played a club team (youth teams don't count)
 

Ukraine has been doing right now.

But they are obviously a special case. 

I still see it happen all the time. Even if it isn't too common.

[Shway]

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

A national team that is free.

Ethiopia, Bolivia, Isle of Man there's some more - take your pick.

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

A club on international break. 

MLS, Lativian, Iceland, Korean club - take your pick

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

A team of all-stars from a league.

Not really possible, these things are organized well ahead of time. The only "viable" option would be the CPL.

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

They are all viable options, and the fact that the CSA was not looking at them over the past week is a serious error on their part. 

They really do despise Canadian fans, the cynicism is peak.

None of these are really viable but absolute desperate situations that imo would be worth the expense. Mine aswell put that money towards a U23 camp, and play any of those opponents you suggested. 

[InglewoodJack]

I’d rather the mens team play our women’s team than a club. C’mon.

[Shway]

4 minutes ago, narduch said:

Ukraine has been doing right now.

But they are obviously a special case. 

I still see it happen all the time. Even if it isn't too common.

Cmon on bro....give me a real one.
I've only seen it common in the case "Brazil U20 vs Manchester United"
 

[Unnamed Trialist]

1 minute ago, Shway said:

Ethiopia, Bolivia, Isle of Man there's some more - take your pick.

MLS, Lativian, Iceland, Korean club - take your pick

Not really possible, these things are organized well ahead of time. The only "viable" option would be the CPL.

None of these are really viable but absolute desperate situations that imo would be worth the expense. Mine aswell put that money towards a U23 camp, and play any of those opponents you suggested. 

Obviously it is probably too late. 

But you are telling me you would not like to watch Iniesta playing for Vissel Kobe? They have a rather nice shirt to boot.

[Shway]

Just now, InglewoodJack said:

I’d rather the mens team play our women’s team than a club. C’mon.

 

[Shway]

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Obviously it is probably too late. 

But you are telling me you would not like to watch Iniesta playing for Vissel Kobe? They have a rather nice shirt to boot.

No, no I do not. You clearly have an affinity for Iniesta. (great player, but clearly past it, but that's what we got MLS for)

Edited May 26, 2022 by Shway

[Unnamed Trialist]

2 minutes ago, Shway said:

Cmon on bro....give me a real one.
I've only seen it common in the case "Brazil U20 vs Manchester United"
 

A couple years ago Granada, in La Liga, played Morocco. 1-1 tie. And on and on.

Bayern Munich played Netherlands maybe a decade ago. We'll just keep rattling off examples and you can keep spitting at them. 

Point is: he's right and you are being obtuse, it happens all the time and is common enough to not have to be a jerk about it. If you are serious about prep, you are serious about prep. 

We actually don't even need the FIFA points to be in play, unless we lose our right to host the WC and have to qualify out of Concacaf in 2026.

[InglewoodJack]

5 minutes ago, Shway said:

 

I mean, none of these games are going to have a material effect on our performance in Qatar, especially against a club that isn’t a massive (read: top 10 in the world) draw, so might as well make it a vanity thing- look at how good our soccer teams are.

Edited May 26, 2022 by InglewoodJack

[Unnamed Trialist]

4 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

A couple years ago Granada, in La Liga, played Morocco. 1-1 tie. And on and on.

Bayern Munich played Netherlands maybe a decade ago. We'll just keep rattling off examples and you can keep spitting at them. 

Point is: he's right and you are being obtuse, it happens all the time and is common enough to not have to be a jerk about it. If you are serious about prep, you are serious about prep. 

We actually don't even need the FIFA points to be in play, unless we lose our right to host the WC and have to qualify out of Concacaf in 2026.

Italy played Fluminense before the Brazil WC. 

Think a few national teams played S African clubs before 2010.

Cuba played Cosmos back when they were still around. 

Four years ago Atlético Madrid played vs Nigeria in Nigeria. 

And on and on. But in Canada we are so smart it hurts.

[SpursFlu]

To me this game was more of an opportunity to get some shine for our national team, reward the fans and put some money in the CSA's bank acount. I really dont buy that this game would really change our performance at the World Cup

Edited May 26, 2022 by SpursFlu

[Unnamed Trialist]

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Italy played Fluminense before the Brazil WC. 

Think a few national teams played S African clubs before 2010.

Cuba played Cosmos back when they were still around. 

Four years ago Atlético Madrid played vs Nigeria in Nigeria. 

And on and on. But in Canada we are so smart it hurts.

Richmond Kickers played the Mexican Olympic team prepping for Rio.

But keep on piling on the excuses.

[PiedPilko]

Curacao just played Ajax

[ensco]

How about Sealand?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand_national_football_team

[frmr]

15 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

I’d rather the mens team play our women’s team than a club. C’mon.

Men's U19s can beat the senior women's team. This would be peak stupidity.

Edited May 26, 2022 by frmr

[Shway]

13 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

I mean, none of these games are going to have a material effect on our performance in Qatar, especially against a club that isn’t a massive (read: top 10 in the world) draw, so might as well make it a vanity thing- look at how good our soccer teams are.

Yea Jack....I'm going to say you are lost on this. 
I get where you started with "none of these games are going to have a material effect on our performance in Qatar" but playing a womens team ....well thats when you lost me. 

Only our U15 team should play our CWNT. Any other way wouldn't be a showcase for the women, as it would be a blowout and wouldn't do the men any justice.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Shway

[prairiecanuck]

Peru would have been a good opponent.  They are playing New Zealand June 5.  You'd think we would have been more attractive than New Zealand.

[Shway]

5 minutes ago, PiedPilko said:

Curacao just played Ajax

Although we know, there was other reasons than sporting ones. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by Shway

[SpursFlu]

The US Women's team lost to FC Dallas U14 7-1. Cmon guys let's keep it real here

[Obinna]

Is there a tread where @Unnamed Trialist hasn't told someone they are being "obtuse"?

[narduch]

5 minutes ago, ensco said:

How about Sealand?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand_national_football_team

Greenland is looking to join Concacaf 

[InglewoodJack]

2 minutes ago, Shway said:

Yea Jack....I'm going to say you are lost on this. 
I get where you started with "none of these games are going to have a material effect on our performance in Qatar" but playing a womens team ....well thats when you lost me. 

Only our U15 or U17 teams should play out CWNT. Any other way wouldn't be a showcase for the women, as it would be a blowout and wouldn't do the men any justice.

Then our men can play half strength, have em all throw their jerseys in the middle of the field and pick two mixed teams, I dunno. I’m not saying it’s a fair match, but we’re talking about CPL all stars, some random Japanese teams… any of those options would be an utter humiliation for our program, so if we’re that desperate for a game, then make it a novelty instead of begging for some random club to play.