WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 13 minutes ago, narduch said: If he's getting a loan it has to happen today Not mentioned here yet but they signed Joachim Anderson from Palace, so they are back to 4 senior centre backs. LDF probably needs a loan if he is getting minutes with a senior side (barring another rash of injuries). Corazon, ahmedou, johnyb and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 You would think we didn’t select him because he would be playing somewhere that doesn’t break for international windows? I wonder if his loan somewhere is contingent on that club missing out on a transfer target. Fulham may also just decide he’ll sit on the bench this year and learn. Has he played at all with their youth team yet this season? ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said: ....Fulham may also just decide he’ll sit on the bench this year and learn.... They did that last season though. If he can hold his own vs Uruguay he's ready to play this yr somewhere. 74 Whitecap, ahmedou and costarg 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 minutes ago, Kadenge said: They did that last season though. If he can hold his own vs Uruguay he's ready to play this yr somewhere. He is, I just wonder if they figure that he’s young, he’s better off spending a year in the gym and under the close supervision of Fulham’s training staff than riding the bus with some League One team. Hope that’s not the case, but I also don’t think it’s common for a club to wait until the 11th hour to bring on an 18 year old CB on loan. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdheid Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I don't see any downside to loaning him out. I wouldn't even care if it was to a non-league side. He doesn't even seem to be playing with the U23s. P.S to anyone interested in non-league, I recently discovered a Youtube channel called Location Football which is really good! I highly recommend. Pottsy3, Nello and ahmedou 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 He needs to get out on loan and play senior games. Even to help mature him to be on his own and figure out a few things. I truly believe that .. I’ve seen too many players in epl clubs have their careers ruined by being “just in case” players ..see Ben Woodburn” .. ahmedou, nolando, narduch and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 14 minutes ago, spitfire said: He needs to get out on loan and play senior games. Even to help mature him to be on his own and figure out a few things. I truly believe that .. I’ve seen too many players in epl clubs have their careers ruined by being “just in case” players ..see Ben Woodburn” .. Totally agree...play 30 competitive pro matches....even League Two.... Ivan, cronaldo7, ahmedou and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 A loan to the continent or an English emergency loan is next I guess WestHamCanadianinOxford and ahmedou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 9 hours ago, spitfire said: He needs to get out on loan and play senior games. Even to help mature him to be on his own and figure out a few things. I truly believe that .. I’ve seen too many players in epl clubs have their careers ruined by being “just in case” players ..see Ben Woodburn” .. I sometimes wonder how David Edgar's career might have unfolded if he hadn't spent four years on the bench in the Premiership. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to Fougerolles. ahmedou, costarg, An Observer and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 He's 18 years old. 18 years old only. It seems like he's more than 18 years old. Like 20-25 years or plus. Because he plays like a veteran. So we forget that he's 18 years old. He was on the preseason 24/25 with Fulham. Travelling and training with them. Like directly after Copa America. So let him stay with Fulham Academy and Fulham (opportunity may be given to him let's see) during this season 24/25. And when the season 24/25 is over we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 23 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said: I sometimes wonder how David Edgar's career might have unfolded if he hadn't spent four years on the bench in the Premiership. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to Fougerolles. Didn’t injuries take that over? ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 12 minutes ago, jordan said: Didn’t injuries take that over? I don’t recall the exact timelines any more, but I think the fact that they kept him with the first team instead of sending him out on loan, where he could have had a lot more playing time, greatly limited his development. costarg and ahmedou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 5 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said: I don’t recall the exact timelines any more, but I think the fact that they kept him with the first team instead of sending him out on loan, where he could have had a lot more playing time, greatly limited his development. Went back to check he may have been fine as long as the info is right ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted Wednesday at 04:50 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:50 PM Been added to the U21 Fulham (Season 24/25). Hasn't been on the lineup/bench of U21 Fulham tho. From August 2024 to September 2024 (until now). Canuckia, Obinna, GasPed and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted Wednesday at 09:02 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:02 PM I wonder if he has picked up an injury or something preventing him from playing. Very surprising he didn't go on loan, then not part of the Canada squad for the Sept window and not playing for the U21s? ahmedou, toontownman and Obinna 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted Thursday at 02:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:59 AM 5 hours ago, Kadenge said: I wonder if he has picked up an injury or something preventing him from playing. Very surprising he didn't go on loan, then not part of the Canada squad for the Sept window and not playing for the U21s? I mean It was nice to see him at Copa America but going forward he really shouldn't be with Canada if he's not playing any pro minutes. CanadaFan123, ahmedou, finchster and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted Thursday at 11:43 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:43 AM 14 hours ago, Kadenge said: I wonder if he has picked up an injury or something preventing him from playing. Very surprising he didn't go on loan, then not part of the Canada squad for the Sept window and not playing for the U21s? Seems pretty inexplicable that he wouldn't go out on loan. Pretty unfortunate for him if he's not going to see any minutes which seems likely. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted Thursday at 11:58 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:58 AM I'm not worried about Luc, personally. He proved he can play against top opposition and still has lots of time to develop. Borjans Sweatpants, Canuckia, ahmedou and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted Thursday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:22 PM 16 minutes ago, DeRo_Is_King said: .... He proved he can play against top opposition.... But this is exactly why a loan to a lower level pro league would have been logical this season. Yes he is young but if he is good enough to play at a pro level staying with the U21s will not help. Corazon, jdheid and ahmedou 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted Thursday at 12:23 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:23 PM 15 hours ago, Kadenge said: I wonder if he has picked up an injury or something preventing him from playing. Very surprising he didn't go on loan, then not part of the Canada squad for the Sept window and not playing for the U21s? Saw some Fulham fan suggest that he may have had to take time to catch up on schoolwork since he was out with Canada all summer. I think the premier league academies have some sort of academic requirements or something. IIRC LDF won some student-athlete award a few years back with Fulham? nolando, YorkRegionFan, Corazon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted Thursday at 12:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:34 PM 10 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Saw some Fulham fan suggest that he may have had to take time to catch up on schoolwork since he was out with Canada all summer. I think the premier league academies have some sort of academic requirements or something. IIRC LDF won some student-athlete award a few years back with Fulham? Probable Reason: School Exams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted Thursday at 03:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:11 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: Saw some Fulham fan suggest that he may have had to take time to catch up on schoolwork since he was out with Canada all summer. I think the premier league academies have some sort of academic requirements or something. IIRC LDF won some student-athlete award a few years back with Fulham? I tend to forget how young these guys are. Really wish there was a loan in the summer window Edited Thursday at 03:12 PM by blueseeka ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted Thursday at 03:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:25 PM 8 minutes ago, blueseeka said: I tend to forget how young these guys are. Really wish there was a loan in the summer window From our POV, this kid is the future of our backline, potential star and all that, but what if… it just doesn’t work out? Players at this age need to make sure that they have their schooling locked down in case the worst happens and he’s out of the game by 24. If that is indeed the case, I don’t think a few more months playing with the acad and then going out for loan in January would be too bad. I’d imagine some League One teams will have their fair share of injuries or sales and will need a reinforcement. It’s also probably really tough to find a team that is simultaneously playing at an appropriate level, is open to taking in an 18 year old CB, and who will also guarantee him playing time/plenty of starts. You don’t want him going from playing for the Fulham reserves to playing for some other club’s reserves either. The Real Marc and ahmedou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted Thursday at 03:53 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:53 PM 3 hours ago, Kadenge said: But this is exactly why a loan to a lower level pro league would have been logical this season. Yes he is young but if he is good enough to play at a pro level staying with the U21s will not help. There’s a strong argument to be made that staying with the first team to develop can be equally as important as a loan. Look at foden not playing for a couple years but training with city. training against crap striker who are physical may help ldf transition to a man’s game but would he improve technically or tactically compared to being with Fulham first team. obviously game time is important but as an 18 year old, he has time. We always assume you need to play matches but that’s not always the case. If he was 21 and not getting minutes then it’s more urgent to get a loan. Obinna, Brethers8 and ahmedou 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted Thursday at 05:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:45 PM 1 hour ago, Bigandy said: There’s a strong argument to be made that staying with the first team to develop can be equally as important as a loan..... But that's what he did last year for a good portion of the season in addition to playing with the U21s. I suspect it's more to do with what @InglewoodJackposted above. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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