WCQ: Honduras vs Canada - Thursday, Jan 27, 8pm EST / 5pm Pacific - San Pedro Sula, Honduras

[Blackjack15]

 

[JAVIERF]

2 minutes ago, EJsens1 said:

Maybe so..

But I see 2 possibilities here:

1) you have no clue what you’re talking about 

or

2) this is a fake account designed to come in here and piss supporters off

I think I know which one I’m going with 

No.  I have been before and I discuss football.  Please don't misunderstand me mate. I said it yesterday.  You Canadian folks built this national team.  I am a witness.  This is a victory of Canadian fanbase football

[canuckgbp]

7 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

I don't know Tissot update but the guy used to be class.  And class is permanent.  Canada can't play B.M  Davids as left back.  He is your Gareth Bale!

Gutiérrez is a natural LB. Laryea can play either side and has on the national team numerous times. 

[JAVIERF]

Well there you go.  I didn't know this new left back Gutierrez .  But the coach realised they need a natural left back.   Adekugbe if he gets injured suspended ?   Miller and Kennedy are left foot  players but too tall too slow to play there.  Alphonso is too good to play there.   As for Pasher and Teibert I rate them too and Akindele is very good. Or used to be very good

[Shway]

4 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

I don't know Tissot update but the guy used to be class.  And class is permanent.  Canada can't play B.M  Davids as left back.  He is your Gareth Bale!

I don’t know when Tissot was class…but brother here is a list of left backs (you can google if you don’t know their names) that are better than Tissot.

Zorhan Bassong
Cristian Gutierrez 
Raheem Edwards
Diyadinne Abzi
Kwame Awuah
Ben Paton
Ryan James

….oh yea Gareth Bale isn’t the same player anymore.

[Obinna]

3 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

Well there you go.  I didn't know this new left back Gutierrez .  But the coach realised they need a natural left back.   Adekugbe if he gets injured suspended ?   Miller and Kennedy are left foot  players but too tall too slow to play there.  Alphonso is too good to play there.   As for Pasher and Teibert I rate them too and Akindele is very good. Or used to be very good

Miller and Kennedy are not natural left backs, Gutierrez is. You are correct sir.

However, note that Miller regularly played left back for Orlando City and also for Canada in his first few caps. Kennedy meanwhile has played their occasionally for his 2.Bundesliga side. Both are natural center backs though. 

Also, I would rate Miller's speed as average, but Kennedy is one of the teams fastest players. 

I would play Gutierrez over both at left back in a heartbeat. I really love what Guti offers. I just wanted to give you an update on our new players. I recall your username and believe you were following us in previous cycles.

Cheers,

Obinna 

[Bison44]

10 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

No.  I have been before and I discuss football.  Please don't misunderstand me mate. I said it yesterday.  You Canadian folks built this national team.  I am a witness.  This is a victory of Canadian fanbase football

You may be from Argentina, and have the eye for talent... but you still need to keep up on the players.  Gutierez was even called in to the camp for LB cover.  Tissot hasnt been near a camp for a long long time which is why it seemed out of left field to many of us.  Glad to have the insight though.   

[canuckgbp]

Kennedy was clocked as one of the fastest players in the 2. Bundesliga. Think he was #2 if memory serves. 

edit- 2nd fastest CB

Edited January 28, 2022 by canuckgbp

[JAVIERF]

1 minute ago, Shway said:

I don’t know when Tissot was class…but brother here is a list of left backs (you can google if you don’t know their names) that are better than Tissot.

Zorhan Bassong
Cristian Gutierrez 
Raheem Edwards
Diyadinne Abzi
Kwame Awuah
Ben Paton
Ryan James

….oh yea Gareth Bale isn’t the same player anymore.

Well I don't know any those or I haven't seen them play on TV maybe but I didn't know the eligibility.   Again left back and Left wing back you need specialists there.  Adekugbe needs a cover.

On Bale you know what I meant.... And don't write off the welsh yet,  they have Austria ...and dowm here we have plenty of Welsh community living in Patagonia that will celebrate if they make it.

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3 minutes ago, canuckgbp said:

Kennedy was clocked as one of the fastest players in the 2. Bundesliga. Think he was #2 if memory serves. 

2nd fastest CB in 2Bundesliga

[canuckgbp]

4 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

Well I don't know any those or I haven't seen them play on TV maybe but I didn't know the eligibility.   Again left back and Left wing back you need specialists there.  Adekugbe needs a cover.

On Bale you know what I meant.... And don't write off the welsh yet,  they have Austria ...and dowm here we have plenty of Welsh community living in Patagonia that will celebrate if they make it.

We have cover. Gutiérrez and Laryea. 

[Obinna]

To be fair to @JAVIERF Tissot was a very respectable player for us. I wouldn't call him "class" per se, but for a while he was a regular call up and he did well. Let's not forget he was regularly used at Montreal scoring 5 goals in 44 league games, despite sometimes playing as a left back, and then DC United thought enough of him to acquire him in an era where few Canadians were playing with American MLS teams. He never found his feet at DC and dropped down to the USL and ultimately the CPL, but he won 13 caps for us from 2015-17. 

[JAVIERF]

9 minutes ago, canuckgbp said:

Kennedy was clocked as one of the fastest players in the 2. Bundesliga. Think he was #2 if memory serves. 

But he isn't skillful enough to play there, he seems fast and light though I give you that.  

Yesterday the Canadian match was broadcasted Live on TV on ESPN 2 Argentina nationwide as for the game in the snow of Edmonton vs Mexico and CR.  So they have broadcasted your  last 3 game free to air down here.  It is something to be proud of Canadian footie friends.

[Obinna]

16 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

Well I don't know any those or I haven't seen them play on TV maybe but I didn't know the eligibility.   Again left back and Left wing back you need specialists there.  Adekugbe needs a cover.

On Bale you know what I meant.... And don't write off the welsh yet,  they have Austria ...and dowm here we have plenty of Welsh community living in Patagonia that will celebrate if they make it.

Of the players @Shway mentioned, I would say Abzi, Gutierrez and Awuah are the most specialized for left back.

Abzi and Awuah both play in the Canadian Premier League.

Abzi is a younger, taller, more athletic player with a fantastic shot and great technique. I think he's 23 years old and has played his entire professional career in the CPL. He's played for our U-23 team and our futsal team if I am not mistaken, but has yet to earn a call for the full national team yet.

Awuah started out at NYCFC in Major League Soccer but has been in the CPL now for 3 years. Smaller and less athletic, but also has good technique and is quick over short distances. He's in the middle of his career (26 years old) and is now on trial with Vancouver Whitecaps, so maybe he gets signed and finds his way into the national team picture. He's been part of a few camps, but has never won a cap. 

Guiterrez you may know more about (I haven't seen the previous pages of this thread to know what your knowledge of him is), but he is Chilean-Canadian, born in Quebec but raised in Chile and developed by Colo Colo. He has played roughly 30 times for them and also went out on loan a few times. He won a few Chile youth caps and is now in MLS with Vancouver Whitecaps. In my opinion he's the only one of the 3 with a national team future, though I really would like for Abzi to find his way, eventually. Cristian is highly technical and intelligent, but average speed and physicality. Excellent crosser of the ball.

Edited January 28, 2022 by Obinna

[Obinna]

5 minutes ago, JAVIERF said:

But he isn't skillful enough to play there, he seems fast and light though I give you that.  

Yesterday the Canadian match was broadcasted Live on TV on ESPN 2 Argentina nationwide as for the game in the snow of Edmonton vs Mexico and CR.  So they have broadcasted your  last 3 game free to air down here.  It is something to be proud of Canadian footie friends.

All 3 of the players I mentioned are more skilled with the ball at their feet than Kennedy or Miller. I agree with you Kennedy is not a left back and would only play there in an emergency. Same goes for Miller, but he's a little more experienced at left back. 

[JAVIERF]

As for left backs left wingbacks.  It has to be a specialist there. 

Has to be fast or if not a bit skillful tricky on the ball with good technique and able to cross the ball with accuracy.

Example.  Dennis Irwin we all have watched him play.   He wasn't strong enough,  wasn't fast enough,wasn't so technically gifted , but he took penalty kicks and free kicks,  so he had a golden peg.  But what the Irish had was what we call  football intelligence above the average of footballers .  He wasn't even a left foot player, but played there as left back for United for 10 years.

[Obinna]

1 minute ago, JAVIERF said:

As for left backs left wingbacks.  It has to be a specialist there. 

Has to be fast or if not a bit skillful tricky on the ball with good technique and able to cross the ball with accuracy.

Example.  Dennis Irwin we all have watched him play.   He wasn't strong enough,  wasn't fast enough,wasn't so technically gifted , but he took penalty kicks and free kicks,  so he had a golden peg.  But what the Irish had was what we call  football intelligence above the average of footballers .  He wasn't even a left foot player, but played there as left back for United for 10 years.

Guiterrez and Adekugbe are both natural left backs. Both are in our team selection for this window. Both are left footed players with good technique and have good enough speed.

Adekugbe is faster and is more "tricky" with the ball at his feet, but is not really a "dribbler" like Davies or Buchanan.

Guiterrez is probably slightly more intelligent, but Adekugbe has a very respectable football IQ as well.

I think Gutierrez probably has a better delivery, but Adekugbe is good here too.

Adekugbe is in form and has become a regular starter for Canada, while Gutierrez is out of season, has struggled with injuries, and hasn't won a cap yet.

I feel very good with Gutierrez backing up Adekugbe, and Laryea can also play there despite being a right foot, but if you insist we need a specialist at left back, I would say we already have 2 and that's enough for this round of games. 

[JAVIERF]

Adekugbe is really good and loves the football nutmegs.  He did a cross yesterday in second half that almost got the 0-2

[umpiredice]

8 hours ago, rydermike said:

Updated Magic Numbers for Canada:

To clinch 4th - 9 points 

To clinch 3rd - 11 points

 

Magic Number = Points We Win + Points dropped by team in the following position. So any combination of Canada points earned and Costa Rica points dropped for 4th  / Canada and Panama for 3rd

Actually, if we beat the US and Costa Rica drop points against Mexico, then isn't the worst we can finish fourth?

Edit: No, wait, I'm stupid.  If we win and Costa Rica lose then we're 10 points up on them with four games to play.

Edited January 28, 2022 by umpiredice
general dumbness

[Yohan]

It's good to exorcise about 50% of the demons playing in Honduras. Wish it was a win against a better Honduras team who's more competitive and not last. Just to really rub it in their face.

Allez Les Rouges

[The Ref]

How many more wins do we need to seal the deal?

 

[Unnamed Trialist]

2 minutes ago, The Ref said:

How many more wins do we need to seal the deal?

Two wins and a draw probably seals it.

But if you are like me, the "deal" is Pot 3

Edited January 28, 2022 by Unnamed Trialist

[CanadaFan123]

1 minute ago, The Ref said:

How many more wins do we need to seal the deal?

 

That question varies. Realistically probably 2-3. 

[VinceA]

58 minutes ago, Yohan said:

It's good to exorcise about 50% of the demons playing in Honduras. Wish it was a win against a better Honduras team who's more competitive and not last. Just to really rub it in their face.

Allez Les Rouges

A win is a win is a win.

[Markoaleks]

@YohanDude, we beat them without  Phonzie and the moustache too