TFC - 2022 Season Thread

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

 

[Kingston]

I didn't get to see the game, only the highlights (such as they were).  Why was Nelson's goal called back?

[narduch]

17 minutes ago, Kingston said:

I didn't get to see the game, only the highlights (such as they were).  Why was Nelson's goal called back?

My guess is they are saying he fouled Hasal

[Watchmen]

39 minutes ago, Kingston said:

I didn't get to see the game, only the highlights (such as they were).  Why was Nelson's goal called back?

Initially thought it was because the ref thought he had possession and was fouled.  As a Whitecaps fan, it was a bad call.  VAR utterly failed here.  Fair result today probably would have been a tie, but the ref did screw TFC.

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

 

[Cblake]

The Reds started 7 Canadians and subbed in an eighth. They played well. We were in it till a great header killed us. I am not a Bono fan, but I have to say he had a good game today too. They deserved a draw. Tough break. For those into the development of young Canadian players TFC is certainly giving them that right now, even if it is a bit of a trial by fire type of things. 

[Unnamed Trialist]

If you want to know how they run in those legends matches with Ronaldo Nazario, Paul Scholes and Cannavaro, watch Michael Bradley. 

[Free kick]

The replay of the Saturday match is on right now on TSN.   This is a good advertisement as to why you should never play televised games at BMO field at 3PM.   Its frustrating trying to follow the game on TV when half the field is covered in shade and it must be a nightmare for the production team.

Besides, how many Canadians at home watching television on Saturday at 3PM from May to September?

Edited May 16, 2022 by Free kick

[narduch]

22 minutes ago, Free kick said:

The replay of the Saturday match is on right now on TSN.   This is a good advertisement as to why you should never play televised games at BMO field at 3PM.   Its frustrating trying to follow the game on TV when half the field is covered in shade and it must be a nightmare for the production team.

Besides, how many Canadians at home watching television on Saturday at 3PM from May to September?

Not gonna lie. I sorta miss the early years Saturday 4pm starts.

Mostly for selfish reasons.

You could go to a game and still do other things at night 

[Free kick]

13 hours ago, narduch said:

Not gonna lie. I sorta miss the early years Saturday 4pm starts.

Mostly for selfish reasons.

You could go to a game and still do other things at night 

I like the night games ( and hate the day games) for the exact same reasons.  Business' (eg.: retailers) are still open in the afternoon on Saturday, so if you have things to do and errands to run,  you can do it and then go to the game late in the evening.  

Plus commuting times are are much worst with the day games and that includes more crowded and congested transit and roads. Plus parking prices are jacked up.

Edited May 17, 2022 by Free kick

[narduch]

2 hours ago, Free kick said:

I like the night games ( and hate the day games) for the exact same reasons.  Business' (eg.: retailers) are still open in the afternoon on Saturday, so if you have things to do and errands to run,  you can do it and then go to the game late in the evening.  

Plus commuting times are are much worst with the day games and that includes more crowded and congested.  That includes public transit and by vehicle.  Plus parking prices are jacked up.

Oh man still can't believe Lamport had $2 parking for a few years

[Gian-Luca]

TFC Salaries released along with other MLS salaries:

• Toronto FC Auro D $400,000 $428,750
  Toronto FC Achara Ifunanyachi M $84,000 $84,000
  Toronto FC Akinola Ayo F $600,000 $671,875
  Toronto FC Bono Alex GK $525,000 $557,000
  Toronto FC Bradley Michael M $1,500,000 $1,500,000
  Toronto FC Chung Kadin D $65,500 $70,631
  Toronto FC Jiménez Jesús F-M $815,000 $934,927
  Toronto FC Kerr Deandre M-F $65,500 $70,819
  Toronto FC MacNaughton Lukas D $84,000 $86,100
  Toronto FC Marshall-Rutty Jahkeele F $130,000 $136,842
  Toronto FC Mavinga Chris D $1,000,000 $1,037,500
  Toronto FC Nelson Jayden F $130,000 $136,586
  Toronto FC O'Neill Shane D $320,000 $358,000
  Toronto FC Okello Noble M $115,000 $126,815
  Toronto FC Osorio Jonathan M $1,000,000 $1,026,250
  Toronto FC Perruzza Jordan F $84,000 $86,500
  Toronto FC Petrasso Luca D $65,500 $65,500
  Toronto FC Pozuelo Alejandro M $3,800,000 $4,693,000
  Toronto FC Priso--Mbongue Ralph M $85,444 $89,195
  Toronto FC Ranjitsingh Gregory GK $84,000 $89,167
  Toronto FC Salcedo Carlos D $2,200,000 $2,351,000
  Toronto FC Shaffelburg Jacob M-F $130,000 $136,500
  Toronto FC Singh Luke D $84,000 $91,966
  Toronto FC Thompson Kosi M $65,500 $70,760
  Toronto FC Westberg Quentin GK $300,000 $313,58

Edited May 18, 2022 by Gian-Luca

[Gian-Luca]

Based on the above, most of the Canadian players are underpaid and most of the non-Canadians are overpaid. In terms of the four CB, MacNaughton by far is the best value for money based on what we've seen to date. The salaries for Mavinga & Salcedo are not a surprise, but difficult to justify either figure so far this year. As for O'Neil, no way is he over four times better than MacNaughton (but his salary is).

[Bison44]

Agree, 358k for a part time starter, 3-4th CB, he better be solid eh?? But 3+mil on the other 2??? IIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!  Who is doing the negotiating in that office?

[narduch]

Saturday's match will start a hit later due to the heat

 

[narduch]

 

[Bison44]

Cripes, is there anyone left to play the TFC2 games??  Do you think this is more covid protocols etc like Vancouver or another injury we'll find out about an hour before game time? 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

 

[TOcanadafan]

Overall I’m happy with MacNaughton considering he’s playing a level up this year, but I just wish he was commanding in the air dealing with balls into the box… he’s a big guy, but doesn’t seem to be aggressive enough.  It’s obvious that Salcedo is just here to collect a paycheque… slow, little effort, zero leadership and plain bad.. so many chances come as he’s just too lazy to attempt to block a cross or deal with one coming into the box.  

[Ivan]

23 minutes ago, TOcanadafan said:

Overall I’m happy with MacNaughton considering he’s playing a level up this year, but I just wish he was commanding in the air dealing with balls into the box… he’s a big guy, but doesn’t seem to be aggressive enough.  It’s obvious that Salcedo is just here to collect a paycheque… slow, little effort, zero leadership and plain bad.. so many chances come as he’s just too lazy to attempt to block a cross or deal with one coming into the box.  

MacNaughton didn't look good on the first DC goal, but Salcedo and Thompson didn't exactly shine on the play either.  On the second goal, perhaps Thompson could have done better, but I would put that one on Bono.  Too tentative coming out.  

[Bison44]

The only difference is McNaughton is moving up a level, just sorting things out, Salceido is a blanky blank DP.......A DP!!!   Brought in a fix the backline, help his defense partner, make Bono look good etc.  And 2 of the top 4 salaries on TFC are CB and we havnt had a clean sheet all season???  Sure they have gone cheap and young with the FB, but yiipers....I didnt think we would be leaking goals like this.  

[Kadenge]

TFC should sign Vitoria. 

[Gian-Luca]

Salcedo's salary is about 15 times that of MacNaughton and Thompson's combined. While I don't expect that he will be 15 times better than them combined, I do expect him to be considerably better than a guy who has just graduated to play at this level and a 19 year old rookie who is only playing right back instead of midfield because the first two choices for that spot are injured.

[Obinna]

1 hour ago, Bison44 said:

The only difference is McNaughton is moving up a level, just sorting things out, Salceido is a blanky blank DP.......A DP!!!   Brought in a fix the backline, help his defense partner, make Bono look good etc.  And 2 of the top 4 salaries on TFC are CB and we havnt had a clean sheet all season???  Sure they have gone cheap and young with the FB, but yiipers....I didnt think we would be leaking goals like this.  

While I expected better from Salcedo, I am not too surprised because he's not known for being a lockdown defender. He is and always has been as far as I remember a ball playing center back. He's been at a high enough level that I did expect him to add defence to the defence, but it's not his fortay. 

Also, Bradley's LAFC teams were pretty leaky in general. They just outscored teams. We'll probably get a repeat of that when Insinge comes, but it's too late to salvage anything this season, I think.