Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Canada vs Martinique Sunday, July 11th 6:30pm Eastern / 3:30pm Pacific Broadcast on ONESoccer --- The match is in a week, so might as well start a thread. The 23 players called are listed here:https://canadasoccer.com/news/canada-soccer-announces-2021-concacaf-gold-cup-roster/ The MLS players are headed to camp and will not be with their clubs for Wednesday/Thursday/Friday's matches. I don't think there are any new injuries since the roster was announced. About Martinique: - They haven't been in camp together since November 2019. - Their coach mentioned that prior to the start of their camp most players were out of season. - Martinique played a friendly against Guadeloupe (in Martinique) and lost 1-2. (I think they were missing most of their pro players that are based in mainland France) - They are already in camp together in the USA - They will play another scrimmage/friendly against Sporting Kansas City dyslexic nam, lamptern, johnyb and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 For this match, do you start Pasher? Akinola? Neither? Both? I'd go with Pasher and Cavallini for this match. I suspect Harry Paton won't start but will be a ~60 minute sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I wonder if Pasher is seen as a left wing back in the 532 Herdman has been playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, El Diego said: I wonder if Pasher is seen as a left wing back in the 532 Herdman has been playing That would explain why Guti wasn't called. Pasher as LWB and Akinola as one of the strikers in a front 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 --------Larin---Hoilett------ ----Fraser--Eustaquio--Paton-- Davies-------------------Buchanan ---Kennedy--Vitoria--Henry--- -------------St. Clair-------- This gets the overseas guys going early, which is important because they are out of season: - We don't have a right sided wingback playing abroad, so I went with Buchanan to get him more experience. - We only have two abroad midfielders, so I gave the spot to Fraser for the same reason Buchanan gets in. -Leutwiler is number 3 and doesn't need the experience. Subs: - Ayo - Miller - Johnston - Pasher - Corbeanu apbsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Obinna said: --------Larin---Hoilett------ Hoilett in that striker role seems unlikely to me. Wouldn't he be where you placed Paton? Edited July 5, 2021 by Olympique_de_Marseille apbsmith and lamptern 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Hoilett in that striker role seems unlikely to me. Wouldn't he be where you placed Paton? Nope. Hoilett is a forward in our 3-5-2. That's where he played against Haiti in the second leg. He also played forward against Aruba if I am not mistaken. Not saying he couldn't play where Paton is (part of the middle 3), because I think his skillset allows for it, but based on what Herdman has done so far I would be surprised. apbsmith, johnyb and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I predict Canada wins but it will be a close scoreline...either 2-0 or 3-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, TGAA_Star said: I predict Canada wins but it will be a close scoreline...either 2-0 or 3-0 Nay, 6-0 Canada, this is the new Canada, no mercy. ghostknownunknown, Obinna and MtlMario 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Important to win the first game. Put out the first team lineup, crush Martinique. 3-0 Reds Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I know this discussion has popped up before about how much of minnow Martinique actually is but looking at their roster I still don’t think they’re that good. Better than Cayman Islands and Aruba for sure but they’re not exactly a massive threat. They have one player in the Segunda Division (ESP 2nd tier), one player in the Serie B, one player playing amateur football in France (team was recently in the 8th tier) and two players in Ligue 2. That’s it, the rest of their roster is domestic so that’s 6 Martinique league players atleast they will have to play against us with. I think if we start a lot of the bench players we should still win 3-0, 4-0. Shway and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I say we are here to prep for the WC qualifiers. We need a similar set up on the pitch, where the roles are defined as we will in September. We should not put out any lineup that does not serve that. Best to have mostly starters, a strong squad with major players, and fill a few holes with some guys we want to see or give some minutes to. There is no point in calling up key pieces in the roster and not playing them. In any case, we still get 5 changes don't we? shorty, TGAA_Star, nolando and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Canada 5 Martinique 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I wonder how the keeper situation will be handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: I wonder how the keeper situation will be handled. I think St. Clair will start the first game and the remainder of the games will be divided between Crepeau and St. Clair. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 We have to play our best lineup and get points on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I say we are here to prep for the WC qualifiers. We need a similar set up on the pitch, where the roles are defined as we will in September. We should not put out any lineup that does not serve that. Best to have mostly starters, a strong squad with major players, and fill a few holes with some guys we want to see or give some minutes to. There is no point in calling up key pieces in the roster and not playing them. In any case, we still get 5 changes don't we? I think we’ll play mostly our strongest lineup in this tournament, but I’m not sure the Martinique game is the one to do it. We’ll want to get the majority of the players some games, and this is the easiest game to see some rotation. We’ll get much better prep for WCQ in the matches against USA/Haiti/knockout rounds. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Just now, PopePouri said: We have to play our best lineup and get points on the board. This was my thinking initially, but then I considered the rotation we saw for Aruba. I know, Martinique are not Aruba, but we needed to get points on the board on that occasion too. If there was a match to play our reserves in, it's probably this one. The line up I proposed is not completely weakened and we'd start Larin, Davies, Hoilett, Kennedy, Vitoria, Henry and Eustaquio. That would be more than enough to get the job done, plus it would get the non-MLS guys in game rhythm. johnyb and Grandbloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Are we already arguing about the lineup? Cool.. here goes Cavallini Davies Hoilett Larin MAK Eustaquio Laryea Kennedy Henry Johnston Crepeau Edited July 5, 2021 by SpursFlu apbsmith, Nello and Grandbloke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Quote If there was a match to play our reserves in, it's probably this one. The line up I proposed is not completely weakened and we'd start Larin, Davies, Hoilett, Kennedy, Vitoria, Henry and Eustaquio. That would be more than enough to get the job done, plus it would get the non-MLS guys in game rhythm. ^ still probably stronger than that 3d chess lineup we rolled out against Mexico... Edited July 5, 2021 by grigorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) I don't mind seeing some squad rotation for this one. This is definitely the match to do it in. Goal difference is the first tiebreaker, so we need to have the same drive and ruthlessness for goals that we had during the last round of WCQ. I'm confident we will. New CanMNT, new mentality. 😀 If a scenario played out where we both defeated Martinique (CanMNT and the US), both defeated Haiti or Bermuda, and then drew each other, the team with the better goal difference wins the group. Win the group and you get the knockout round path that avoids a semi-final with the winner of Group A (most likely Mexico), so goal difference needs to be in the back of our minds as we play the group stage. Edited July 5, 2021 by jtpc Corazon, shorty, costarg and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, jtpc said: I don't mind seeing some squad rotation for this one. This is definitely the match to do it in. Goal difference is the first tiebreaker, so we need to have the same drive and ruthlessness for goals that we had during the last round of WCQ. I'm confident we will. New CanMNT, new mentality. 😀 If a scenario played out where we both defeated Martinique (CanMNT and the US), both defeated Haiti or Bermuda, and then drew each other, the team with the better goal difference wins the group. Win the group and you get the knockout round path that avoids a semi-final with the winner of Group A (most likely Mexico), so goal difference needs to be in the back of our minds as we play the group stage. That is a good point, and may be a reason we see a stronger lineup vs Martinique that we wouldn’t otherwise. I hadn’t really thought about the Goal Difference angle, but that is a fairly likely scenario. Will be interesting to see what Herdman decides to do. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 14 hours ago, Obinna said: Nope. Hoilett is a forward in our 3-5-2. That's where he played against Haiti in the second leg. He also played forward against Aruba if I am not mistaken. Not saying he couldn't play where Paton is (part of the middle 3), because I think his skillset allows for it, but based on what Herdman has done so far I would be surprised. That's true, Hoilett was in an advanced role when he was subbed into that match. I don't recall him playing in such an advanced role in the first match though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: That's true, Hoilett was in an advanced role when he was subbed into that match. I don't recall him playing in such an advanced role in the first match though. He was actually playing as a wide forward in the first match, but that was a 4-3-3, so probably not relevant. Hoilett also played in a front two against the States in both legs of nations league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 This is a really important game and I hope Canada plays hard and wins #TGAA_Star MtlMario, The Beaver 2.0, Bdog and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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