Obinna Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 25 years old, born in 1996 Has been with TFC since 2018 (79 matches in all comp.) Presumably +2 years out from getting citizenship, so it would be for the 2026 cycle Probably doesn't need to be stated, but he won't be on the Brazil NT radar What do you guys think? Would he get into our 18? Would he be just be a depth piece in our wider pool? Does he have the potential to be a starter? Addona and Dominic94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 He’s not eligible. but if he was he’s definitely strong enough to be in the squad and potentially in the starting XI too Nate3322 and Dominic94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Floortom said: He’s not eligible. Has that been confirmed? Why wouldn't he be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: Has that been confirmed? Why wouldn't he be? Played for Brazils youth teams, has 0 connection to Canada apart from his time at TFC. Pretty sure that disqualifies him from being eligible for a 1 time switch. Could be wrong though. IF he is eligible, no doubt in my mind he would be a much welcomed addition. Laryea, Auro, ZBG, Johnston, and Cordova. That would be my RB “depth chart” at this very moment, if he was to switch. Of course with their potential and age, ZBG/Johnston could quickly over take him, but man would he be a good depth piece for us. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, N1ckbr0wn said: Played for Brazils youth teams, has 0 connection to Canada apart from his time at TFC. Pretty sure that disqualifies him from being eligible for a 1 time switch. Could be wrong though. Didn't China do that with Elkeson? He hasn't played for Brazil since he was 20... don't see why this is any different. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullback Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) You can’t file a one-time switch to a country if you’ve been provisionally cap-tied before you’ve gotten citizenship with the ‘new country’. Unless there is a rule change Auro will never be eligible for us. Same reason why we couldn’t get Gershon Koffie EDIT: Messed it up a bit it’s eligible to obtain citizenship not necessarily having it Edited February 13, 2021 by Fullback toontownman, Dominic94 and NVsoccer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate3322 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: Didn't China do that with Elkeson? He hasn't played for Brazil since he was 20... don't see why this is any different. I thought the same thing but it turns out Elkeson never actually played for Brazil that's why he was able to switch to China. Edited February 13, 2021 by Nate3322 Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Dam. Would like to see us fast track citizenship for certain players like we did Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Youth teams don't count for cap ties I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fullback said: You can’t file a one-time switch to a country if you’ve been provisionally cap-tied before you’ve gotten citizenship with the ‘new country’. Unless there is a rule change Auro will never be eligible for us. Same reason why we couldn’t get Gershon Koffie So all of those Suriname guys who played for Holland get a pass because of their descent? I don't think they all had citizenship. Mikmacdo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, PiedPilko said: So all of those Suriname guys who played for Holland get a pass because of their descent? I don't think they all had citizenship. I think if your parents or grandparents are from the country, you are eligible to switch, regardless of your citizenship. Nate3322 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, archer21 said: I think if your parents or grandparents are from the country, you are eligible to switch, regardless of your citizenship. Like Scott Arfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, archer21 said: I think if your parents or grandparents are from the country, you are eligible to switch, regardless of your citizenship. Right... I hate this stuff lol. The Real Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 not eligible..close it up Nate3322, narduch, Shway and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badname22 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, frmr said: Youth teams don't count for cap ties I thought. They don't if you were eligible for the country you want to switch too at the time of your cap I believe. Auro's only hope is having a Canadian grandparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Cmon @Obinna, I thought you knew better 😂. This isnt possible under the old rules or the new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 To me this is like when Sweinstieger talked about CHicago getting to the world cup, I like the sentiment, but they have to do a bit more research on the subject. Although with the way they change these damn rules I guess anything could be possible. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bison44 said: To me this is like when Sweinstieger talked about CHicago getting to the world cup, I like the sentiment, but they have to do a bit more research on the subject. Although with the way they change these damn rules I guess anything could be possible. You’re right about anything’s possible....but on that hope I rather Tomori than Auro - plain and simple. We got more than enough RB options to be thinking/waiting for a guy who’s currently 25 and would be eligible at 27+. I agree with the guys who’s say they prefer Laryea over Auro. No Canadian bias at all. And than there’s ZBG, Johnston, Farsi, and even Cordova....thanks for the love but we’re good. gator, Kadenge, Ivan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Dominic94 said: Dam. Would like to see us fast track citizenship for certain players like we did Davies. Davies had lived in Canada for more than a decade before he gained citizenship and he's Canadian, through and through, not just seeking citizenship so he can have an opportunity to play international football. I am not in favour of relaxing citizenship rules for athletes. Kadenge and El Hombre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I think I remember the "fast track" story. But I think it was more a case of lets get the paperwork done so he can get into the Curacao game and Gold cup that summer, not like they let him apply without putting in the requisite years etc. Now if Auro was a CB, Justin might waive the 5yrs of perm res and get Don Cherry to write his citizen test ASAP so he would be ready for the next set of WCQ. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryn27 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Floortom said: He’s not eligible. but if he was he’s definitely strong enough to be in the squad and potentially in the starting XI too Why wouldn’t he be look at Ukraine, Marlos and Moraes both from Brazil played in Ukraine for the required years to get their citizenship then once they got it got called up as long at they don’t have a senior cap after 21 years old if they get their citizenship they can play why else would he say he wants to play here if he knew there was no way he could? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Daryn27 said: Why wouldn’t he be look at Ukraine, Marlos and Moraes both from Brazil played in Ukraine for the required years to get their citizenship then once they got it got called up as long at they don’t have a senior cap after 21 years old if they get their citizenship they can play why else would he say he wants to play here if he knew there was no way he could? This was discussed a couple replies ago. Neither ever played for Brazil as a youth international. For Auro to play for us, he’d have to file a one time switch. You can’t file a one time switch to a nation you weren’t eligible for at the time you played as a youth international for your original nation. Floortom and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Didn't we already have this conversation a few days ago? Strait Red, Obinna, Ivan and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Shway said: Cmon @Obinna, I thought you knew better 😂. This isnt possible under the old rules or the new rules. What about the "new" new rules? 😉 By the time I fully understand the new rules they'll probably change again, so I don't bother keeping up-to-date on them anymore lol. Anyways, thankful for you guys setting the record straight on his eligibility. My own opinion is that he'd be a luxury player. Nice but not a must have. He'd win caps for us and I think his versatility goes under the radar. Not only can he play both fullback spots, but he can also play in the center of midfield. I suspect a guy like that would find chances with Canada. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) On 2/13/2021 at 5:08 AM, Bison44 said: To me this is like when Sweinstieger talked about CHicago getting to the world cup, I like the sentiment, but they have to do a bit more research on the subject. Although with the way they change these damn rules I guess anything could be possible. I was pretty sure that was a journalist who asked him that question, when he was being presented at Fire. Not Schweinsteiger. Love the way the entire Fire board strives to save face for the dumbass reporter, who repeats the idiocy. Cringe. Edited February 14, 2021 by Unnamed Trialist Ivan, johnyb and Bison44 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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