Watchmen Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: That definitely worries me for getting access to tickets. I can see the Toronto games being crazy. A trip to BC, clustered with games (hopefully) in Seattle may be the best way of maximizing my chances of getting to see some games. Hands off my tickets. 😉 dyslexic nam and Jedi Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Watchmen said: Hands off my tickets. 😉 Joke’s on you - I am crashing on your couch. Jedi Ram and Watchmen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Agree that FIFA doesn't have to do it but the word from those with inside knowledge appears to be that Canada is receiving fewer games because they have chosen to add an eleventh American city for whatever reason. The plan may be to give Vancouver and Toronto numbers comparable to the 4-3-3 (presumably) for Mexico City, Guadalajara and Monterrey and that probably points to 6 or 7 rather than 8. Hope I'm wrong about that. Time will tell basically. You have to consider that Washington DC and Baltimore were two separate candidates and they merged to improve their chances. So that would suggest not all American bids were that confident. In general the West is weakly represented, no Phoenix, no Las Vegas, Portland not in. No other California team. Now I'm sure you could be right, but it does seem that FIFA really wanted Vancouver because it helps bolster the western venues (of which none in the Mexican cities). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I definitely think Seattle is in to create that cluster w/Vancouver....all the US East Coast cities will be pretty easily accessible from the GTA..short flights for all...I may suggest also driving to Buffalo and looking into flying Southwest Airlines as well....SWA flies from Buffalo to Baltimore all the time and pretty cheap for example I feel like the US probably will get 11 cities with Canada just having two cities....I think if the US only gets ten cities it comes down to Philly or Houston and I think Houston would get the edge East Coast Cluster NYC Boston Baltimore Philly West Coast LA San Fran Seattle Dirty South Miami Dallas Houston Atlanta ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 How do team bases work for World Cup again? Do teams have to be based in one of the host cities, or will it be elsewhere? With 48 teams, I’m working if you might see a team or two based in places like Montreal or Victoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: How do team bases work for World Cup again? Do teams have to be based in one of the host cities, or will it be elsewhere? With 48 teams, I’m working if you might see a team or two based in places like Montreal or Victoria. Bases are anywhere. But often close to group games. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Montreal host a team that plays in Toronto + US East Coast. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) My final list: a slight change from previous lists: Dallas replaces Nashville; Philly is the eleventh city added. Much of this is a repaste of previous US In 1) Houston - No longer Natural surface and will cluster with the three Mexican cities (Mexico city, Monterrey, Guadalajara). NRG Stadium scored 4.2 / 5 in the FIFA technical reports. That was highest score of all Stadiums in North America 2) New York/New Jersey - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. But you have to have New York. And you have to have 4 cities to makeup a North east cluster 3) Baltimore - Natural surface. Washington (after the negative reviews they got from FIFA) already announced that they will partner with Baltimore. So they must know something. Plus you can put them in either a South East or North east cluster. 4) Philadelphia - Shot up the charts in the final weeks 4) Nashville - Natural surface. They hosted a WCQ match so that's a good sign, so is the surfaces and the fact that you need at least 4 cities to make up a South East cluster 4) Dallas - Replaces Nashville which would have been a shoe-in except for the fact that Nashville decided to build anew stadium and not tell FIFA. Hence changing the terms 5) Los Angeles - Natural surface. Same as New York, you need LA and you need 4 Pacific coast cities to make up a cluster. it will either Sofi or Rose bowl 6) San Francisco - Natural surface. Plus you can build the Pacific cluster with LA and possibly Seattle and Vancouver (As Horgan mentioned). Seattle and Vancouver are NOT NATURAL SURFACE 7) Atlanta - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. Two of FIFA’s six first-tier corporate partners are American companies headquarters in American bid cities. The Coca’Cola' global headquarters are based in Atlanta, while central operations for Visa are situated in San Fran. Also, it has good MLS attendance and it can cluster with Nashville and a Florida city to form a southern cluster. 8 ) Kansas City- Natural surface. Kansas City for the fact that its a legacy selection. By that i mean the Hunt family and their connections to the game plus the fact that it has supported very well the pro club in MLS. The reluctance with KC is that it does not cluster as a location. Its right in middle of the US and hence neither a North east city, nor a southern city, nor a Pacific coast city. The first criticism of every FIFA event in North America is the travel distances. From what i saw on-line and youtube of their presentation, they seemed to really want it. 9) Miami - Natural surface. It will be be a choice between Miami and Orlando. In cant see two Florida cities getting it. The stadium in Miami has a natural surface whereas Orlando does not. Problem is Orlando is a better MLS city. I still think it will be Miami because of all the expats from Latin America. 10) Seattle - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. Good MLS city and forms a good cluster with other Pacific coast cities 11) Philadelphia - shot up the charts in the last couple of months A wild card or close but no Cigar 12) Denver - Natural surface. If they add a 12th, I predict it will be Denver Out 1) Washington D.C. - They got a bad review from the inspection committee and they already said that they will support the Baltimore bid. 2) Boston - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. Gillette stadium and its location is terrible for visitors. Inaccessible by public transit. Stadium in no longer new and is not anywhere close to downtown. From the presentations i saw, they didn't show the same enthusiasm and desire as many other cities during their FIFA visit. Mediocre MLS attendance. 3) Cincinnati - bad bid, bad stadium 4) Orlando - They wont add two Florida cities 5) Nashville - would have been in had they not changed their plans. They will get plum thrown their way like perhaps the WC draw will beheld there Canada IN 1) Toronto - Just going by the reports we read 2) Vancouver -Just going by the reports we read Out 1) Edmonton - Just going by the reports we read plus what what know from sources like Grant Wahl and from the technical reports. Issues with: Accommodation/Hotels, Clustering, Transportation....etc. These are issue that arose before looking at the stadium was not suitable and would have required massive amounts to upgrade Mexico In 1) Mexico City - You have to play at the Azteca 2) Guadalajara: should be in. Has the perfect stadium. But we are hearing they are out 3) Monterrey: should be in. Has the perfect stadium. But we are hearing they are out Edited June 15, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 NRG Stadium is artificial turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, RS said: NRG Stadium is artificial turf. We had this discussion before. remember Its tray that they can roll in the artificial surface over the grass. or vice versa. I'll concede to you that this one is grey area. Both surfaces are laid out on interlocking trays but they are using mostly artificial now for the NFL team Edited June 14, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, mrstepp817 said: I definitely think Seattle is in to create that cluster w/Vancouver....all the US East Coast cities will be pretty easily accessible from the GTA..short flights for all...I may suggest also driving to Buffalo and looking into flying Southwest Airlines as well....SWA flies from Buffalo to Baltimore all the time and pretty cheap for example I feel like the US probably will get 11 cities with Canada just having two cities....I think if the US only gets ten cities it comes down to Philly or Houston and I think Houston would get the edge East Coast Cluster NYC Boston Baltimore Philly West Coast LA San Fran Seattle Dirty South Miami Dallas Houston Atlanta My choices East time zone cluster NYC, Tor, Balt, Philly Central or Mountain time zone cluster or Mexico Cluster Hou, Dal, Den, Mex city Or replace Denver with one of the two other Mexican cities. Pacific time zone cluster LA, SF, Sea, Van SEC cluster Mia, ATL, KC, If Denver is out Then: East time zone cluster NYC, Tor, Balt, Philly Central or Mountain time zone cluster or Mexico Cluster Hou, Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico city Pacific time zone cluster LA, SF, Sea, Van SEC cluster Mia, ATL, KC, Dal Edited June 14, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nored Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Free kick said: My final list: a slight change from previous lists: Dallas replaces Nashville; Philly is the eleventh city added. Much of this is a repaste of previous US In 1) Houston - Natural surface and will cluster with the three Mexican cities (Mexico city, Monterrey, Guadalajara). NRG Stadium scored 4.2 / 5 in the FIFA technical reports. That was highest score of all Stadiums in North America 2) New York/New Jersey - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. But you have to have New York. And you have to have 4 cities to makeup a North east cluster 3) Baltimore - Natural surface. Washington (after the negative reviews they got from FIFA) already announced that they will partner with Baltimore. So they must know something. Plus you can put them in either a South East or North east cluster. 4) Philadelphia - Shot up the charts in the final weeks 4) Nashville - Natural surface. They hosted a WCQ match so that's a good sign, so is the surfaces and the fact that you need at least 4 cities to make up a South East cluster 4) Dallas - Replaces Nashville which would have been a shoe-in except for the fact that Nashville decided to build anew stadium and not tell FIFA. Hence changing the terms 5) Los Angeles - Natural surface. Same as New York, you need LA and you need 4 Pacific coast cities to make up a cluster. it will either Sofi or Rose bowl 6) San Francisco - Natural surface. Plus you can build the Pacific cluster with LA and possibly Seattle and Vancouver (As Horgan mentioned). Seattle and Vancouver are NOT NATURAL SURFACE 7) Atlanta - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. However two of FIFA’s six first-tier corporate partners are American companies headquarters in American bid cities. The Coca’Cola' global headquarters are based in Atlanta, while central operations for Visa are situated in San Fran. Also, it has good MLS attendance and it can cluster with Nashville and a Florida city to form a southern cluster. 8 ) Kansas City- Natural surface. Kansas City for the fact that its a legacy selection. By that i mean the Hunt family and their connections to the game plus the fact that it has supported very well the pro club in MLS. The reluctance with KC is that it does not cluster as a location. Its right in middle of the US and hence neither a North east city, nor a southern city, nor a Pacific coast city. The first criticism of every FIFA event in North America is the travel distances. From what i saw on-line and youtube of their presentation, they seemed to really want it. 9) Miami - Natural surface. It will be be a choice between Miami and Orlando. In cant see two Florida cities getting it. The stadium in Miami has a natural surface whereas Orlando does not. Problem is Orlando is a better MLS city. I still think it will be Miami because of all the expats from Latin America. 10) Seattle - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. Good MLS city and forms a good cluster with other Pacific coast cities 11) Philadelphia - shot up the charts in the last couple of months A wild card or close but no Cigar 12) Denver - Natural surface. If they add a 12th, I predict it will be Denver Out 1) Washington D.C. - They got a bad review from the inspection committee and they already said that they will support the Baltimore bid. 2) Boston - NOT NATURAL SURFACE. Gillette stadium and its location is terrible for visitors. Inaccessible by public transit. Stadium in no longer new and is not anywhere close to downtown. From the presentations i saw, they didn't show the same enthusiasm and desire as many other cities during their FIFA visit. Mediocre MLS attendance. 3) Cincinnati - bad bid, bad stadium 4) Orlando - They wont add two Florida cities 5) Nashville - would have been in had they not changed their plans. They will get plum thrown their way like perhaps the WC draw will beheld there Canada IN 1) Toronto - Just going by the reports we read 2) Vancouver -Just going by the reports we read Out 1) Edmonton - Just going by the reports we read plus what what know from sources like Grant Wahl and from the technical reports. Issues with: Accommodation/Hotels, Clustering, Transportation....etc. These are issue that arose before looking at the stadium was not suitable and would have required massive amounts to upgrade Mexico In Mexico City - You have to play at the Azteca Wild card or Out 1) Guadalajara: should be in. Has the perfect stadium. But we are hearing they are out 2) Monterrey: should be in. Has the perfect stadium. But we are hearing they are out What source is saying Guadalajara and Monterrey are out? xabuep2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Free kick said: We had this discussion before. remember Its tray that they can roll in the artificial surface over the grass. or vice versa. I'll concede to you that this one is grey area. Both surfaces are laid out on interlocking trays but they are using mostly artificial now for the NFL team We did have this discussion. During the 2015 season, a permanent artificial surface was installed at NRG Stadium. The Texans had used a natural surface since the stadium opened, using a system of trays of sod similar to one used at Giants Stadium in its experiment with using a grass surface. In recent years, the stadium installed artificial turf to be used during high school and college games while keeping the grass for Texans games. After the Texans' home opener, complaints about the field conditions finally led to the installation of the artificial surface for Texans games. The surface brand is UBU Speed, which is part of Act Global.[18] In 2017, NRG Stadium selected Hellas Construction to install its Matrix Turf with Helix Technology at the stadium. The three year contract calls for a new (artificial) turf field each year. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hellas Heads Back To SOFI Stadium, NFL Matrix Helix® Turf Installs Gaining Ground Cision June 14, 2022 Hellas installed Matrix Helix® synthetic turf at SoFi Stadium continuing to gain ground as a turf supplier for eleven different NFL teams including the LA Rams and LA Chargers. As America’s largest vertically integrated sports construction contractor, Hellas is uniquely positioned to meet the athletic surfacing needs of multiple NFL teams installing synthetic turf at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, NRG Stadium in Houston, and Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. Hellas is not only installing synthetic turf in pro stadiums, but NFL practice facilities as well. In addition to the Cowboys’, Texans’ and Raiders’ training centers, Hellas has also installed Matrix Helix synthetic turf at the indoor facilities for the Washington Commanders, Tennessee Titans, Miami Dolphins, Kansas City Chiefs, and Jacksonville Jaguars. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Free kick said: We had this discussion before. remember Its tray that they can roll in the artificial surface over the grass. or vice versa. I'll concede to you that this one is grey area. Both surfaces are laid out on interlocking trays but they are using mostly artificial now for the NFL team Yeah, it’s an artificial turf stadium that used to be grass. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Makes no sense for an NFL team to use an artificial turf field if a turf field is available. I'd like to find out more about this surface (Hellas Matrix Helix) as it seems to be getting the big business. Canadian stadiums are becoming due for artificial turf replacement and generally they go for the best product available which lately has been FieldTurf Revolution. I still haven't found out what Hamilton installed last year and I have found inaccuracies with Wikipedia but it would be interesting to see if this brand is in the running for the upcoming replacements. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hellas does big business down in Texas and the south, know several of their sales guys who are ex-football coaches and work with Texas High Schools...they make a quality turf product for sure....AT&T Stadium uses it and I believe SoFi Stadium does as well...I need to ask if they have any big accounts in Canada or the northern US...I know they recently built a field office in Wisconsin Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) On 6/14/2022 at 2:08 AM, Nored said: What source is saying Guadalajara and Monterrey are out? I’ll see if i can dig up the tweet i came accross yesterday. I recall it being from a credible source. You might be right that they are still in. edit.: i havent dug it so edited my posts to ay they are both in and Denver is out. Edited June 15, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Boston may be out because their stadium is in an awful location....I always forget they built that stadium way out of town in the middle of nowhere...if Boston is out I could see Kansas City being added and being a bridge city between the two coasts along with Dallas...then you have Dallas and Houston as your bridge cities between Mexico and either coast..with Atlanta and Miami serving as the bridge between Mexico and the East Coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) I guess providing all the information and proving the point can't always buy a like Edit: Bless You Edited June 14, 2022 by Joe MacCarthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 hours ago, RS said: Yeah, it’s an artificial turf stadium that used to be grass. I edited my post RS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Free kick said: I’ll see if i can dig up the tweet i came accross yesterday. I recall it being from a credible source. You might be right that they are still in. Not what the Mexican media seem to be saying: Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 My US cities that I would choose 1- Dallas (Jerry World/Cowboys Stadium) 2- New York/New Jersey (MetLife Stadium) 3- Atlanta (Mercedes Benz Stadium) 4- Houston (NRG Stadium) 5- Los Angeles (SoFi Stadium) 6- Seattle 7- Miami (Hard Rock Stadium) 8- Philadelphia 9- Baltimore 10- San Francisco/Bay Area (Levi's Stadium) 11- Kansas City (Arrowhead/Chiefs Stadium) Canada portion BC Place (Vancouver) BMO Field (Toronto) Mexico portion Mexico City (Azteca) Guadalajara Canada and Mexico both get 2 cities each and USA gets 11 cities...meaning they get the bulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nored Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 The latest prediction from Grant Wahl after talking to a source is that it is likely that the USA will get more than 10 cities, possibly 12. His list is Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Miami, New York/New Jersey, Philadelphia, San Francisco Bay Area and Seattle with Baltimore/Washington in if there is 11 and Nashville in if there is 12. narduch and Free kick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 NVsoccer, narduch and TGAA_Star 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Wonder if that means more games for Canada or a 6-4 split. Or just false information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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