narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, king1010 said: Do they though? canada rarely tops 20,000 in Toronto, TFC has averaged 25k the last few years. A 29K seat stadium seems more than adequate. If you want to play Brazil or Argentina type teams you do. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 36 minutes ago, narduch said: If you want to play Brazil or Argentina type teams you do. Its not worth building a massive stadium to play friendlies against brazil and argentina once every couple of years. also look at the states. They dont even use large stadiums for their marquee friendlies (save vs mexico). 11k vs serbia at the home of lafc 27k vs colombia at the home of la galaxy 37k vs germany at unconns 38k seat stadium 19k vs uruguay at skc home stadium im just not seeing the use case Edited February 4 by king1010 Colonel Green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, king1010 said: Its not worth building a massive stadium to play friendlies against brazil and argentina once every couple of years. also look at the states. They dont even use large stadiums for their marquee friendlies (save vs mexico). 11k vs serbia at the home of lafc 27k vs colombia at the home of la galaxy 37k vs germany at unconns 38k seat stadium im just not seeing the use case I'm thinking more for TFC too. Why can't they aim to be an Atlanta or Seattle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, narduch said: I'm thinking more for TFC too. Why can't they aim to be an Atlanta or Seattle? To play in nfl stadiums at 50 and 60% capacity on artificial turf? the reason those teams have stadiums of those size is because of nfl owners/ teams in the city, not because of the Mls team. If they didnt have those relationships theyd have 30k, maybe 35k soccer specific stadiums in line with BMO. Edited February 4 by king1010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, king1010 said: To play in nfl stadiums at 50 and 60% capacity on turf? lol come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, narduch said: lol come on https://worldsoccertalk.com/amp/news/seattle-sounders-explore-idea-of-new-stadium-in-suburbs-20230925-WST-458451.html The average capacity of the 22 soccer-specific stadiums is 22,140 Yet, Sounders supporters could look at GEODIS Park as inspiration, which has a capacity of 30,000 Nashville SC fans Sounders Eye Leaving Lumen Field For Soccer-Specific Stadium https://frontofficesports.com/sounders-eye-leaving-lumen-field-for-soccer-specific-stadium/ Edited February 4 by king1010 narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 BMO Field has been called Exhibition Stadium during the Pan Am Games (when it was a rugby venue) and the National Soccer Stadium during both the 2007 U-20 WC and the 2014 U-20 WWC. Why does FIFA need to come up with another name now? Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, king1010 said: https://worldsoccertalk.com/amp/news/seattle-sounders-explore-idea-of-new-stadium-in-suburbs-20230925-WST-458451.html The average capacity of the 22 soccer-specific stadiums is 22,140 Yet, Sounders supporters could look at GEODIS Park as inspiration, which has a capacity of 30,000 Nashville SC fans Sounders Eye Leaving Lumen Field For Soccer-Specific Stadium https://frontofficesports.com/sounders-eye-leaving-lumen-field-for-soccer-specific-stadium/ This actually reminds me that another bad thing about Canada's World Cup bid is that we could have had a nice real soccer specific stadium for the Vancouver. With them having to move a Champions Cup game to Starlight it really hammers home that they should try again to build their own stadium. king1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, RS said: BMO Field has been called Exhibition Stadium during the Pan Am Games (when it was a rugby venue) and the National Soccer Stadium during both the 2007 U-20 WC and the 2014 U-20 WWC. Why does FIFA need to come up with another name now? It looks like the naming scheme they decided on was CityName+Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, narduch said: It looks like the naming scheme they decided on was CityName+Stadium. I noticed that. Only BC Place and Estadio Azteca got to keep their names intact (with Vancouver and CDMX tacked on at the end, respectively). Even KC’s Arrowhead Stadium, which doesn’t even have a corporate name, got the same boring treatment. Not to mention that a bunch of places like “Boston” and “Dallas” aren’t even those actual cities. NVsoccer and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, king1010 said: Do they though? canada rarely tops 20,000 in Toronto, TFC has averaged 25k the last few years. A 29K seat stadium seems more than adequate. We need a stadium for big Canada games, big international games, big TFC games , later round playing games , MLS Cup if they host again one day and so in . Will they need a 45000 stadium for every game no, but when we need it we don’t have it in Toronto. Ivan, narduch, Club Linesman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 15 hours ago, SoccMan said: On footy prime the podcast James Sharman hinted that there might be a bit of a surprise tomorrow in the 2026 World Cup FIFA schedule show regarding maybe more World Cup games in Canada than expected. That's not a really a surprise. The original plan calls for 10 games for Canada when the world cup was supposed to be 80 games in total. Now that its 104 games, it shouldn't be a surprise that it turns out to be 16 games. or something like that johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) FIFA usually goes at least 4-5 days between using a stadium. To help protect the grass. I guess that won't be the case here. Edited February 4 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 23 minutes ago, narduch said: FIFA usually goes at least 4-5 days between using a stadium. To help protect the grass. I guess that won't be the case here. That should not be a problem. I dont recall the rationale but i looked this up about a year ago and crunched the numbers and found that it was doable even with 8 games in a city narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) Here was the match schedule in Doha and the proposed match sched for 2026 based on the original plan NOTE.: the original bid called for at least one R16 match in Canada Edited February 4 by Free kick narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, Free kick said: That should not be a problem. I dont recall the rationale but i looked this up about a year ago and crunched the numbers and found that it was doable even with 8 games in a city I think its only doable if we get additional knock out games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, narduch said: If you want to play Brazil or Argentina type teams you do. I don't think it's stadium size that's holding Canada back from playing Brazil or Argentina. gigi riva, king1010 and kacbru 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, narduch said: This actually reminds me that another bad thing about Canada's World Cup bid is that we could have had a nice real soccer specific stadium for the Vancouver. With them having to move a Champions Cup game to Starlight it really hammers home that they should try again to build their own stadium. If they build their own stadium, it would be in the 20-25k range. It would not have been suitable to host World Cup games. king1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Watchmen said: I don't think it's stadium size that's holding Canada back from playing Brazil or Argentina. Are you sure about that? Larger stadium helps you cover the massive appearance fee. We were rumoured to play Argentina a year or so ago already. We don't have a stadium for that. Assuming they assist in a grass field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Watchmen said: If they build their own stadium, it would be in the 20-25k range. It would not have been suitable to host World Cup games. Build it 40-45 but permanently 30k. Again it's sad we will host a World Cup but have no lasting infrastructure. I'm not counting a few training fields Edited February 4 by narduch johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, narduch said: Are you sure about that? Larger stadium helps you cover the massive appearance fee. We were rumoured to play Argentina a year or so ago already. We don't have a stadium for that. Assuming they assist in a grass field. Yes. I don't think the turf matters to the federation, so long as they get their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, narduch said: Build it 40-45 but permanently 30k. Again it's sad we will host a World Cup but have no lasting infrastructure. I'm not counting a few training fields We're hosting specifically because we don't have to build any permanent stadiums. If we did, I don't think we'd be hosting at all. I don't think any of the cities would have stepped forward to do that. Redpunkfiddle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Olympic Stadium Montreal to be refurbished in time for last minute World Cup bid Just kidding, but there will be an announcement on Monday that they will finally replace the roof. See link above. Please forgive the double post but it is a big story johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) OMG this is painful to listen to. Just get to the announcements please Here we go; June 11, 2026: Opening game in Azteca Edited February 4 by Free kick narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Wow. Mexico gets the opener. Should have been Canada, the only country of the 3 never to host. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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