Watchmen Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, Free kick said: That probably explains this: quote: "The New York Times reported Friday that FIFA’s brass has narrowed the possibilities to two Final finalists: Dallas-Fort Worth’s AT&T Stadium and New York-New Jersey’s MetLife Stadium. On Sunday night, FIFA’s president attended the Dallas Cowboys’ home game. An official decision is expected this fall." Opinion: When it comes to values, there’s a clear choice for the World Cup Final - Inside World Football There was an article in the Athletic discussing the state of all the US stadiums, and I think part of the Finals discussion is that SoFi is smaller than the other two. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Watchmen said: There was an article in the Athletic discussing the state of all the US stadiums, and I think part of the Finals discussion is that SoFi is smaller than the other two. In terms of pitch size, Yes. Edited October 16, 2023 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Free kick said: In terms of pitch side, Yes. I meant in terms of seating, though I see Wikipedia lists SoFi as "expandable to 100k". Don't know if that's for soccer or not. Regular capacity is 70k. NY bid at 87k and Dallas at 93k (but expandable further to 105k). That's definitely why Dallas is being considered, and probably why NY is being considered over LA. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 The World Cup finals stadium decision is going to be a really telling one re: state of North American soccer and FIFA in general. If it's between NYC and Dallas, obviously it should be in New York, it's the crown jewel of the US, centre of the universe, crossroads of the world, so on. On the other hand, you have AT&T in Dallas, owned by Jerry Jones, arguably the most powerful man in all of sports. There's not a trick in the book Jones couldn't pull to somehow get the finals, even though there's no reason why you should have 100,000 soccer fans somehow needing to be in *Dallas, Texas* for the biggest match of the year/cycle, and yet, there's a very real chance that will be the case. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 9:39 PM, narduch said: Wonder if they go Vegas or the Rose Bowl route?? The Rose Bowl isn't shiny and new, but the setting is second to none and it holds 100k.... Ottawafan and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, mrstepp817 said: Wonder if they go Vegas or the Rose Bowl route?? The Rose Bowl isn't shiny and new, but the setting is second to none and it holds 100k.... Already seeing news stories about Vegas now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Rose Bowl would never happen, come on. Isn't it like decaying bleachers in most of it?? Plus they want stadia that were built after the big shift to massive corporate/hospitality sections taking priority. Vegas is a natural replacement, were they only not included in the first place because it wasn't built yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Sounds like Dallas-Ft Worth making a push to get the final... Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Regarding Vegas, I mentioned about a year ago in this thread (with supporting media articles and quotes) that they don't want it. So they pulled out of the bidding early on in the process Mostly because FIFA's non compete clauses. The non compete clauses mean that the host city must not have any competing events within certain time ranges in the summer when the world cup is held. With the tons of events and year long existing booking in Vegas, the city doesnt need the world cup. And, they were quoted that there is no economic benefit or minimal benefit for them to forgo those events in order to host the WC. In fact, in fact they stated, as i recall, that that was at busy time of the year for Vegas. PS.: I noticed many times people bringing up Vegas and i get that not everyone follows the news on this topic. But they were not awarded the WC. So how could FIFA turn around and make them a host city with they were not part of bidding and inspection process? Edited October 27, 2023 by Free kick Shway, johnyb and Unnamed Trialist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Here are a few other articles on the Dallas pitch to host the final: Will AT&T Stadium host final match of 2026 World Cup? Here’s what FIFA brass has to say (yahoo.com) FIFA official concedes AT&T Stadium grass surface is a big challenge for 2026 World Cup (dallasnews.com) - Behind a paywall unfortunately FIFA visits AT&T Stadium before 2026 World Cup Final announcement | kagstv.com Edited October 25, 2023 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I dont know if this is official yet, But several reports are saying this. Estadio Azteca to host first 2026 World Cup game 40 years after the 'Hand of God' (msn.com) Recall.: in the bid book, the plans were for three opening games with with one game played in each of the three host countries. So I am not sure if this is even news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Brazil suffered its first ever home World Cup qualifying defeat Brazil vs. Argentina: Historic World Cup qualifier is overshadowed by violence and chaos at the Maracanã stadium | CNN johnyb and RJB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Free kick said: Brazil suffered its first ever home World Cup qualifying defeat Brazil vs. Argentina: Historic World Cup qualifier is overshadowed by violence and chaos at the Maracanã stadium | CNN Is this supposed to soften last nights loss? Brasil will be alright johnyb, Free kick, dyslexic nam and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) No not quite 🙂 Its historic. And to be honest, I didn't know that Brazil even had this undefeated streak. I thought that Mexico's record at Azteca was unique and the one that most stood out. BTW, with the new qualifying quotas, we can confidently say that it is impossible for Brazil to not qualify. Edited November 23, 2023 by Free kick RJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerkick Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/11/28/ifab-premier-league-sin-bins-tactical-foul-orange-card/ a power play in soccer? by 2026, this could be a rule for the world cup?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Always hoped football would go to more of a rugby style process and eliminate group accosting of the ref and only have captains speak. Was also hoping that they would go with the rugby version of VAR. This would be great for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Club Linesman said: Always hoped football would go to more of a rugby style process and eliminate group accosting of the ref and only have captains speak. Was also hoping that they would go with the rugby version of VAR. This would be great for the game. Wayne Barnes vs. Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Club Linesman said: Always hoped football would go to more of a rugby style process and eliminate group accosting of the ref and only have captains speak. Was also hoping that they would go with the rugby version of VAR. This would be great for the game. Plus a clock that is stopped when the ref stops time; and also tick’s down and goes red when it goes past 90 until one of the teams kicks the ball out johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I think any player that will not be around in 2026 should not be called any longer. We have 2.5 years before W/C and we should play the younger players now so they get in sinc with each other. We hardly play friendlies so these next tournaments (Copa, Gold Cup and Nations League) are the only place they can play. I do not agree with the idea of adding 1 or 2 new players at a time. We don't have the time for that. That's my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, MtlMario said: I think any player that will not be around in 2026 should not be called any longer. We have 2.5 years before W/C and we should play the younger players now so they get in sinc with each other. We hardly play friendlies so these next tournaments (Copa, Gold Cup and Nations League) are the only place they can play. I do not agree with the idea of adding 1 or 2 new players at a time. We don't have the time for that. That's my 2 cents. Who would that be? Considering its a WC at home, these guys may extend their career specifically for the WC. Likely vitoria is done at 39. Potentially borjan but he just turned 36 and will be 38 at the world cup. He could easily still be playing and be our 3rd string. Hoilett will turn 36 at the tournament. he could still be around but its unlikely. However, 1-2 years in the championship, 1-2 years in MLS and he could still make it. Oso will turn 34 at the tournamnet. He'll still be playing. Cav will be 33 and still around - likely to be dropped before then as we have better options....we are already seeing this. Basically the only guy who we realistically can say is done is vitoria. However, if we go by form then I expect borjan to drop to a 3rd string role, hoilett to be the 26th man off the bench, oso off the bench and cav to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 So basically 2026 team will be 2022 team just 3.5 years older.😄 8 minutes ago, Bigandy said: Who would that be? Considering its a WC at home, these guys may extend their career specifically for the WC. Likely vitoria is done at 39. Potentially borjan but he just turned 36 and will be 38 at the world cup. He could easily still be playing and be our 3rd string. Hoilett will turn 36 at the tournament. he could still be around but its unlikely. However, 1-2 years in the championship, 1-2 years in MLS and he could still make it. Oso will turn 34 at the tournamnet. He'll still be playing. Cav will be 33 and still around - likely to be dropped before then as we have better options....we are already seeing this. Basically the only guy who we realistically can say is done is vitoria. However, if we go by form then I expect borjan to drop to a 3rd string role, hoilett to be the 26th man off the bench, oso off the bench and cav to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Club Linesman said: Always hoped football would go to more of a rugby style process and eliminate group accosting of the ref and only have captains speak. That is one of the things I like about basketball - the refs take no shit whatsoever. Chirp at the ref? Technical. Generally act like an asshole? Technical. Five fouls and you are hitting the showers, so if you want to take a Tech for something dumb that is on you. The result? Almost no crowding the refs or screaming in their faces. None of the bullshit. And guess what - the NBA still manages to put out a really entertaining product that doesn't view the BS drama as an integral part of the game. Club Linesman, johnyb and Kusch to the Corner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, MtlMario said: So basically 2026 team will be 2022 team just 3.5 years older.😄 Thats not at all what Im saying. Im responding to your statement that players who wont be there 100% should be kicked. Im saying our squad is so young that vitoria is the only player whos is likely 100% retired by 2026. Then it becomes a difficult question about which players gain or lose form vs new up and coming players. Age/retirment is only one criteria for shaping the squad and we can only predict one player whos likely retired. Form and ability is another. Do we drop miller because we expect LDF to take his spot. If so, when? Do we drop oso and never look back because we have ali/choiniere. What happens if oso regains form and ali loses form. Can we go back to oso? Do we drop piette with the assumption loturi or bombito develop into our missing CDM. Im saying its difficult to say lets get rid of players who wont be around in 2026 when we cant even make a list of who wont be around aside from vitoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Bigandy said: Thats not at all what Im saying. Im responding to your statement that players who wont be there 100% should be kicked. Im saying our squad is so young that vitoria is the only player whos is likely 100% retired by 2026. Then it becomes a difficult question about which players gain or lose form vs new up and coming players. Age/retirment is only one criteria for shaping the squad and we can only predict one player whos likely retired. Form and ability is another. Do we drop miller because we expect LDF to take his spot. If so, when? Do we drop oso and never look back because we have ali/choiniere. What happens if oso regains form and ali loses form. Can we go back to oso? Do we drop piette with the assumption loturi or bombito develop into our missing CDM. Im saying its difficult to say lets get rid of players who wont be around in 2026 when we cant even make a list of who wont be around aside from vitoria. Of course nobody has a crystal ball (except me or course😄) but there's not much time to figure all these things out is what I'm saying.Cheers. Bigandy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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