Unnamed Trialist Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 hours ago, RS said: They brought in Pulisic and Lozano, both of whom earn more than Phonzie right now. Bayern underpays, which won't affect him for now but could going forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Califax said: Blame Kenney, just for consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Free kick said: If you think about it. Canada did bid for the WC (on its own) for the 1986 WC. After the event taken away from Colombia due to political and social unrest . Dont know how close the vote was when we lost to Mexico, but our stadium situation in 1986 was country miles better then today. We had new modern stadiums in Montreal, Vancouver, Edmonton, and a Toronto stadium was already in the plans and might have been accelerated. The other stadlims with CFL teams might have done the trick for the rest of games. But today, its another story. Costa Rica, a country of five million, has a better soccer stadium and any city in Canada The stadiums in just single cities with football, like Barcelona, London, even Sevilla, are far superior to the sum offer in all of Canada. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Joe MacCarthy said: I think that the game was over before Alberta made that demand. The conspiracy part of me thinks maybe that is why they made the demand. Perhaps - but what drives FIFA? Money. With seating of up to 60,000 at Commonwealth, the potential take there dwarfs either BC Place or BMO Field (or the Skydome). I doubt the Alberta government has the knowledge on what they could ask for to sink the bid. 6 hours ago, narduch said: They can't permanently expand BMO Field unless they kick out the Argos They can certainly permanently expand the south stand, with a second level. They could even known down the west stand and build a new one similar to the East stand that reached up to the roof (though I doubt we'll see that). All they need for the north end, is to keep that area at the front clear. They could do something like the south side, and build a permanent back, with temporary seating at the front (similar to the south stand - but more of it). In theory you could build something that rolls backward ... or even collapses into the ground, if you want to build a big enough hole. 6 hours ago, Joe MacCarthy said: I saw a post at another thread (conjecturing) about the SkyDome upgrade and a change in hosting the World Cup. I was going to quickly rebutt it but it got me thinking, is it really out of the realm of possibility. I believe some stands were "locked in place" and rails removed. Do I have that right? I don't think it's 100% clear ... though I don't see why they'd have removed the rails - the configuration seems unchanged. I think the issue is that the turf is fixed in place, and fouls the movement. But removing the turf, which isn't going to happen for a TFC February Champions League game, solves that, and would be necessary for the world cup. And there's certainly not the systems in place to support grass - so that would have to be a LOT of work, or something temporary. That said, one could play at Skydome without moving the stands. If NYCFC can play in Yankee Stadium and Citi Field without moving stands, then it could be fit into Skydome - it would just look bloody weird. Not suitable for a World Cup, but perhaps for a February Champions League game. 5 hours ago, Shway said: BMO field will be a joke on the world stage, and I don't think we've seen anything like it at the World Cup. There were two stadiums in Russia smaller than 35,000. And how many stadiums have hosted the World Cup that have large expanses of space between the fans and the pitch, because of seldom-used running tracks? Edited June 17, 2022 by nfitz narduch, RS, footballfreak and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 7 hours ago, gigi riva said: That would be cool . Vut me thinks they will have it in either Vegas , or NYC I think the Group Draw would be in Vegas or Los Angeles personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Califax said: I don't know, it's not 1990 anymore. Commonwealth will have it's place but the World Cup Finals is too rich for Alberta. Nothing wrong with that. It's too rich for Quebec and Manitoba and Nova Scotia. It is what it is. Decades awash in petro dollars (shakes head). Congrats to Vancouver & Toronto and the $600,000,000 that they are willing to spend to be on the world stage. Free kick, Califax, Jedi Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Plus being from Toronto, being a Torontonian I am so excited. Definitely going to have to save up bare dollars to watch games because I definitely know it will cost a fortune but how often do you get to watch World Cup games especially in your own backyard? Only happens once in a lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Didn't the Chinese build it for them to project soft power in the region? Sorry. I dont follow Edit.: yes, i know what you mean now. Good point Edited June 17, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Free kick said: Sorry. I dont follow https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadio_Nacional_de_Costa_Rica_(2011) Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Sorry if this has already been asked but will BC Place be able to use the surface they have today or will they have to put in some grass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) On 6/16/2022 at 6:05 PM, SpecialK said: I feel bad for Edmonton, I can’t believe their Provincial government screwed this up by making demands on FIFA. That's how they are spinning this story locally in Alberta. Which tells you how unpopular the provincial gov't is. But I only buy it to the small extent that when it was all said and done, the funding conditions didn't help. And the mayor and local authorities didnt object very strongly to them and even hinted publicly that they were negotiable. I think FIFA had decided that they weren't going to go to Edmonton long before the Alberta gov't funding conditions even surfaced. Why else would they have asked BC to re-enter the bid? This proves that with outcomes like this, you cant always trust local media, fans and general citizen to give you a true and fair analysis and portrait. Civic pride can sometimes blind you from reality. I remember the Olympic bid for 1996. I had just moved here when the vote occurred (ie.: in 1990), so i wasn't blinded by civic pride, and i had a totally different read from everyone else as to why Toronto lost to Atlanta for the 1996 Olympics Edited June 18, 2022 by Free kick aslemko, Joe MacCarthy and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: Sorry if this has already been asked but will BC Place be able to use the surface they have today or will they have to put in some grass? It will be grass. I'm curious how they will sustain it for the rumored 6 matches Free kick and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The best for last costarg and ted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, narduch said: It will be grass. I'm curious how they will sustain it for the rumored 6 matches Thanks. There’s others like New England who will have to do this as well. Should be interesting. Free kick and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 10 hours ago, gigi riva said: That would be cool . Vut me thinks they will have it in either Vegas , or NYC Just thinking, the Vancouver Re-Olympic bid is going ahead isn't it? Without being a sports capital in strict terms, its global branding for sports is really holding up. Cheeta and gigi riva 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstackho Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I don't know about you guys, but I am no longer feeling "worry for Canada's 2026 World Cup bid". Maybe time to change the thread title? Treppy2, Approve My Account Pls, costarg and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasha Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 So what happens if a dictatorial country like Iran is placed in Vancouver or Toronto for the group stages? I mean Iran is seriously such an evil country that their national team, as representatives of the people who shot down the plane, should in no way be allowed on Canadian soil. Free kick and RS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Pasha said: So what happens if a dictatorial country like Iran is placed in Vancouver or Toronto for the group stages? I mean Iran is seriously such an evil country that their national team, as representatives of the people who shot down the plane, should in no way be allowed on Canadian soil. We will suck it up and let them play. Just like if Israel or Saudi Arabia qualify Edited June 17, 2022 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, narduch said: We will suck it up and let them play. Just like if Israel or Saudi Arabia qualify Don't bother. You're responding to the American-based troll who was supposedly banned a few weeks back. footballfreak and canucksfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Just thinking, the Vancouver Re-Olympic bid is going ahead isn't it? Without being a sports capital in strict terms, its global branding for sports is really holding up. I figure the opening game will be in the US and we already know the closing game will be too. So locating the draw outside the US is a chance to give one of the other countries a "big event". Vancouver makes a lot of sense for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 hours ago, Free kick said: I am listening to the press conference and we are 11 minutes in and not single decent question asked. There are are a ton of questions to ask after a decsion like this. But all they could ask is garbage and fluff. Come on KJ, you could do better than than that stupid question. People want to know why certain venues were selected and why certain venues were excluded. There is the Colin Smith right there at the table. I want hear what he he thinks needs to be done with surfaces . edit.: after the eleventh minute, the questions improved a little. Someone asked about the field demensions issue with NFL stadiums. Useless Free kick and aslemko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Cheeta said: I don't know, it's not 1990 anymore. Commonwealth will have it's place but the World Cup Finals is too rich for Alberta. Nothing wrong with that. It's too rich for Quebec and Manitoba and Nova Scotia. It is what it is. Decades awash in petro dollars (shakes head). Congrats to Vancouver & Toronto and the $600,000,000 that they are willing to spend to be on the world stage. Agreed. Edmonton is just a notch below relative to the other cities. The lowest profile city of the bunch is probably Kansas City. I have never been, but I am willing to place it above Edmonton in terms of profile, even if it's just by a whisker. More importantly, Kansas City fills a geographical gap that Edmonton doesn't. Vancouver or Seattle don't exactly leave Albertans or even Saskatchewanians out in the cold. It's a relatively short flight, or drivable if you're up to it. There's no Denver, Minneapolis, St. Louis or Chicago. You need Kansas City in absence of all of those cities. You don't need Edmonton. Curious for you as a Winnipegger, do you travel East to Toronto or West out to Vancouver? You're kind of in the middle, no? 😉 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 ^ be careful how you answer. This may just settle the great "Toronto vs Vancouver" debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) I feel bad for Edmonton. I think its obvious that they screwed up royaly by being Edmonton. The only way anyone other than Toronto Vancouver were getting in is if they built a giant new stadium. And we know how anti stadium Canadians are... so there you have it Edited June 17, 2022 by SpursFlu Obinna, MtlMario, Free kick and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Free kick said: We had new modern stadiums in Montreal, Vancouver, Edmonton, and a Toronto stadium was already in the plans and might have been accelerated. BC place was new, but it was an awful concrete mausoleum with a non-retracting roof, so I don't think grass would have been a possibility. I remember going to my first Whitecaps game there shortly after it opened and wondering how they could have replaced Empire with that awful place. aslemko and Free kick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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