Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 9 hours ago, sebdeserio said: How's he been? Haven't watched much CPL this year. It feels like CPL is his level which has disappointed many who wrote in this thread, as I think they had unreasonably high expectations for him; many expected him to be dominant and simply a class above. Edited July 1 by Olympique_de_Marseille sebdeserio and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDias Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 News will be out soon GasPed, costarg, Olympique_de_Marseille and 14 others 8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) 6 hours ago, sebdeserio said: How's he been? Haven't watched much CPL this year. It depends on your expectations. If you were disappointed that he was even loaned to CPL in the first place and expected him to dominate the league, you would not be happy. If you were expecting someone playing their first pro minutes then his performance is probably more positive. Personally, I didn't rate him but there were some moments where you could see his talent. He had a good showing against the Whitecaps and his ball that unlocked Aird leading to the Warschewski goal against Forge were the highlights. Outside of that it was a very rough showing. If we were to compare his loan spell with a previous loan spell in Jean-Aniel Assi it would be comparable in that there are flashes of a good player there but would argue neither lived up to the hype. He's not Jose Hernandez level bad where people were audibly groaning when he entered the pitch, so there's that. I would not be losing my shit if his loan was extended but I'd much rather see his minutes go to Mael Henry, who was very impressive last year in a similar role and more productive on the score sheet. Also excited to see what Myroniuk and Chanda can do for the club. Edited July 1 by shermanator sebdeserio, nolando, johnyb and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, shermanator said: It depends on your expectations. If you were disappointed that he was even loaned to CPL in the first place and expected him to dominate the league, you would not be happy. If you were expecting someone playing their first pro minutes then his performance is probably more positive. Personally, I didn't rate him but there were some moments where you could see his talent. He had a good showing against the Whitecaps and his ball that unlocked Aird leading to the Warschewski goal against Forge were the highlights. Outside of that it was a very rough showing. If we were to compare his loan spell with a previous loan spell in Jean-Aniel Assi it would be comparable in that there are flashes of a good player there but would argue neither lived up to the hype. He's not Jose Hernandez level bad where people were audibly groaning when he entered the pitch, so there's that. I would not be losing my shit if his loan was extended but I'd much rather see his minutes go to Mael Henry, who was very impressive last year in a similar role and more productive on the score sheet. Also excited to see what Myroniuk and Chanda can do for the club. Thank you for an honest review. Only watched a couple minutes of him this year and I just expected more. He is still very young so who knows. I am glad he is finally getting minutes. But it puts into perspective of our hopes for LDF, McGill and JKL. Until they play in competitive games, it is so hard to understand their actual level. I am so happy that JKL is actually get League 2 minutes coming up. The other two need loans too Edited July 1 by blueseeka Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Not in HFX today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 5 hours ago, jordan said: Not in HFX today Guess an extension/transfer isn't finalized so he couldn't play, since loan technically ended yesterday jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2nd division Portugal? Or a more modest 1st division team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Olympique_de_Marseille, jordan, narduch and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Would assume Next Pro? Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 6/30/2024 at 7:16 PM, shermanator said: It depends on your expectations. If you were disappointed that he was even loaned to CPL in the first place and expected him to dominate the league, you would not be happy. If you were expecting someone playing their first pro minutes then his performance is probably more positive. Personally, I didn't rate him but there were some moments where you could see his talent. He had a good showing against the Whitecaps and his ball that unlocked Aird leading to the Warschewski goal against Forge were the highlights. Outside of that it was a very rough showing. If we were to compare his loan spell with a previous loan spell in Jean-Aniel Assi it would be comparable in that there are flashes of a good player there but would argue neither lived up to the hype. He's not Jose Hernandez level bad where people were audibly groaning when he entered the pitch, so there's that. I would not be losing my shit if his loan was extended but I'd much rather see his minutes go to Mael Henry, who was very impressive last year in a similar role and more productive on the score sheet. Also excited to see what Myroniuk and Chanda can do for the club. You've probably watched more than me, but from what I have seen I wouldn't describe his showings as "rough". Everything else in this post is very fair. You're first paragraph sums it up nicely. Personally, I am not very surprised nor am I disappointed per se. He is clearly talented, but this whole saga speaks to the value of first team football. It's all well and good to be in a top system like Sporting, but first team ball is different, even if the level is technically lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I think the thing people forget is that depending on the level and team system it may be hard for him to make plays… he’s likely go attacking ideas that his teammates can’t fathom…. Sometimes you can’t produce because your teammates can’t match your playable or rhythm. JasonDias, costarg and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Obinna Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 21 hours ago, Dominic94 said: I think the thing people forget is that depending on the level and team system it may be hard for him to make plays… he’s likely go attacking ideas that his teammates can’t fathom…. Sometimes you can’t produce because your teammates can’t match your playable or rhythm. Exactly this. It's not a video game. If he was a striker who finishes off plays, it's a little different. For a young, creative midfielder, you don't just walk into the team and expect to be on the same page. The other thing too is that he was on loan, so he was not their property. No real incentive to build the team around him, or anything like that. Overall I would describe the loan as a positive experience for him, just looking from the outside. JasonDias, costarg and GasPed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 I guess his MLS transfer didn’t work out ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: I guess his MLS transfer didn’t work out He looked pretty ordinary in CPL to my eyes. blueseeka and ahmedou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDias Posted Tuesday at 06:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:57 PM Lucas has joined Portuguese 3rd league side 1° Dezembro on a season long loan. narduch, sebdeserio, dyslexic nam and 13 others 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDias Posted Tuesday at 07:08 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:08 PM He had interest from several other countries including Poland, Cyprus, Israel, Greece, and USA but ultimately Sporting wanted him closer to home. Corazon, sebdeserio, Borjans Sweatpants and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM Hey, first game against none other than Sporting B! Olympique_de_Marseille and ahmedou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM 19 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Hey, first game against none other than Sporting B! 31 minutes ago, JasonDias said: ultimately Sporting wanted him closer to home. Can't get closer to home than that! Their website with links to their social media accounts: https://www.1dezembro.com/ InglewoodJack and ahmedou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted Tuesday at 08:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:10 PM Given where he is coming from, this has to be viewed as a step back. Hopefully it is one step back to ultimately take two forward, but this is a less exciting developmental pathway than taking a spot in a fully professional league. ahmedou, Obinna and Corazon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM 6 minutes ago, shermanator said: Given where he is coming from, this has to be viewed as a step back. Hopefully it is one step back to ultimately take two forward, but this is a less exciting developmental pathway than taking a spot in a fully professional league. Probably worse than when guys end up in Serie C in Italy. I guess the important thing is he is in the pyramid and could get scouted by a better Portuguese club and move up Obinna and ahmedou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM 12 minutes ago, shermanator said: Given where he is coming from, this has to be viewed as a step back. Hopefully it is one step back to ultimately take two forward, but this is a less exciting developmental pathway than taking a spot in a fully professional league. Maybe they saw his Cavalry loan and decided he needs to take a further step down this time. Or, maybe they were happy with his CPL loan and Portuguese 3rd Division is the next appropriate step. It's a domestic loan, so easier for them to monitor his progress. ahmedou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedou Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Borjans Sweatpants and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM (edited) How old was Staq when he played in the Portuguese 3rd Div? Edited Tuesday at 08:59 PM by Kadenge Corazon, ahmedou, narduch and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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