SoccMan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shortdutchcanuck said: Forward Juan Macias 38 goals in 88 Liga MX games with Guadalajara and Leon and 4 goals in 5 senior Mexican caps. Also had 11 goals in 10 games for Mexican u20s Those are great stats in any league never mind a good league like Liga Mex, even if we were able to have our strongest squad and everyone else had they strongest squad it would still be hard for us to get the top two spots to qualify, it is what it is . Shway and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 We will beat Mexico and the win the tournament. games aren’t won on paper. toontownman, JuicyHam and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I feel like Kris Twardek could be big this tournament. A lot of our players haven't played a competitive match in months and while he's mostly played garbage minutes off the bench he has played the full 90 in the last 2 games. Could be one of his last chances to play for us as well if his career path doesn't improve especially with our current strength in his position. toontownman and Nate3322 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Antuna played against us in the 2019 Gold Cup, for those that may recall. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Obinna said: Those are Cavallini Liga MX numbers, and David international numbers. What a stud. No forward on the USA roster comes close to that, much less our own team. This is why I push back sometimes when people get a big d*ick for the future of the USA program, suggesting they will relegate Mexico to no. 2 in the region. Not saying it won't happen, just saying it's not a given... I agree but they have been able to beat them is some very key games and even in a very big round of 16 game in the World Cup a few World Cups ago, but ya it’s hard to compete with the depth the Mexican’s have and that’s due to the fact they have a pretty good league and it also helps that soccer is the main sport there . I think it’s like the way hockey is between us and the US sure they can beat us from time to time but in the end I just don’t see them becoming a stronger hockey country than us anytime soon, they are close but I think we are still stronger. They don’t have our Major Junior Hockey league which still just pumps out talent year in year out . Soccer is still a religion in Mexico but not in the US, that helps in the end it’s hard to compete against that. Obinna and LeoH037 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SkuseisLoose said: I feel like Kris Twardek could be big this tournament. A lot of our players haven't played a competitive match in months and while he's mostly played garbage minutes off the bench he has played the full 90 in the last 2 games. Could be one of his last chances to play for us as well if his career path doesn't improve especially with our current strength in his position. I rather be surprised than say this. The times I've seen Twardek he was trying to out run and out muscle the opponents as at the time he was significantly bigger. However you are right, he could be a pleasant surprise. Edited March 12, 2021 by Shway toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: We will beat Mexico and the win the tournament. games aren’t won on paper. If only they were in the imagination 😛 Dare to dream! Lament if we are licking our wounds after. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, toontownman said: If only they were in the imagination 😛 Dare to dream! Lament if we are licking our wounds after. At a point gotta believe in the boys, upsets happen. They’re pros they aren’t going to give up before the game starts and I certainly won’t give up on them before hand. Obinna and MtlMario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, narduch said: Mexico squad is all domestic It's a stacked team. Only missing a couple of players who may have been held back for senior team friendlies. Very good breadth of senior national team experience and club team experience. A bit light on CBs and defensive mids but have 3 #10s. They will only stumble due to overconfidence as Mexican fans are already discussing what medal they'll win at the Olympics - especially with Euros happening, clubs won't be allowing players to be in both. Edited March 12, 2021 by red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 We just need to beat the Americans and we are going to Tokyo! Then it will be a whole different ball game! We can call players that were missing out of this group, three senior players. Mexico fans better watch out! If we are there we’re going to be a force. We Got the talent Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, SoccMan said: I agree but they have been able to beat them is some very key games and even in a very big round of 16 game in the World Cup a few World Cups ago, but ya it’s hard to compete with the depth the Mexican’s have and that’s due to the fact they have a pretty good league and it also helps that soccer is the main sport there . I think it’s like the way hockey is between us and the US sure they can beat us from time to time but in the end I just don’t see them becoming a stronger hockey country than us anytime soon, they are close but I think we are still stronger. They don’t have our Major Junior Hockey league which still just pumps out talent year in year out . Soccer is still a religion in Mexico but not in the US, that helps in the end it’s hard to compete against that. The way Mexicans treat soccer is the same way we treat Hockey.... they just seem to breath and live soccer more passionately than the Americans, just as us with Hockey... its more personal, more of a big deal. It's not something you can teach. Its why I think Mexico will always be a top dog in the region, even if they only fielded 100% domestic teams (which would still be pretty competitive), their players have a certain grit about them that American players just don't seem to have, sort of like a chip on their shoulders since soccer was *their* sport first sort of thing. gator, MtlMario, saintjoes and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDias Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Saw a post earlier talking about squad values. Decided to look up each roster via Transfermarkt. Here are the results Teams Based On Squad Values Mexico 80.85M USA 30.72 M Costa Rica 10.4 M Canada 7.81 M Honduras 2.94 M El Salvador 0.96 M Haiti 0.87 M Dominican Republic 0.22 M Top Players From Each Squad Based On Value José Juan Macías (MEX) 11 M Djordje Mihailovic (USA) 4.4 M Randall Leal (CRC) 3.3 M Tajon Buchanan (CAN) 2.2 M Douglas Martínez (HON) 660 Th José Portillo (ELS) 330 Th Djimy Alexis (HAI) 275 Th Dorny Romero (DR) 220 Th gator, Corazon, red card and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, JasonDias said: Saw a post earlier talking about squad values. Decided to look up each roster via Transfermarkt. Here are the results Teams Based On Squad Values Mexico 80.85M USA 30.72 M Costa Rica 10.4 M Canada 7.81 M Honduras 2.94 M El Salvador 0.96 M Haiti 0.87 M Dominican Republic 0.22 M Top Players From Each Squad Based On Value José Juan Macías (MEX) 11 M Djordje Mihailovic (USA) 4.4 M Randall Leal (CRC) 3.3 M Tajon Buchanan (CAN) 2.2 M Douglas Martínez (HON) 660 Th José Portillo (ELS) 330 Th Djimy Alexis (HAI) 275 Th Dorny Romero (DR) 220 Th Djordie is overvalued. Man if we beat Mexico imagine the heads that will be chopped off in that federation. Nate3322, Obinna and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, JasonDias said: Saw a post earlier talking about squad values. Decided to look up each roster via Transfermarkt. Here are the results Teams Based On Squad Values Mexico 80.85M USA 30.72 M Costa Rica 10.4 M Canada 7.81 M Honduras 2.94 M El Salvador 0.96 M Haiti 0.87 M Dominican Republic 0.22 M Top Players From Each Squad Based On Value José Juan Macías (MEX) 11 M Djordje Mihailovic (USA) 4.4 M Randall Leal (CRC) 3.3 M Tajon Buchanan (CAN) 2.2 M Douglas Martínez (HON) 660 Th José Portillo (ELS) 330 Th Djimy Alexis (HAI) 275 Th Dorny Romero (DR) 220 Th Out of curiosity, does costa rica have pretty much its full compliment of U24 players at this tournament? And if not, how are they missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I'm pretty worried about scoring goals, neither of our #9s have been scoring regularly. I would have loved Ongaro if only because he's played and scored more recently than either Bair or Brym. Nate3322 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDias Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) One player tested positive (he's being retested to see if it was a false). He was at least within close contact on the connecting flight over to Mexico with 3 other players - who have tested negative but now having to extend their quarantine. Edited March 25, 2021 by JasonDias Olympique_de_Marseille, Shway, Ivan and 14 others 2 4 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Dominic94 said: We will beat Mexico and the win the tournament. games aren’t won on paper. Tell that to our CCL representatives, TFC. Bison44, narduch, SkuseisLoose and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, JasonDias said: Inside scoop from mexico... (but we should wait to see if CSA/Mauro makes an official announcement) One player tested positive (he's being retested to see if it was a false). He was at least within close contact on the connecting flight over to Mexico with 3 other players - who have tested negative but now having to extend their quarentine. I won't name anyone. Oh fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate3322 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) Well that's not good.... Hopefully it's a false positive. Edited March 12, 2021 by Nate3322 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I gotta say, it's pretty dumb that roster sizes remained at 20 even though they new that the pandemic could affect it. I get they do 20 man squads for all youth tournaments, but this one considering several factors could've been a logical anomaly. Obinna, yomurphy1, Shortdutchcanuck and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, JasonDias said: Inside scoop from mexico... (but we should wait to see if CSA/Mauro makes an official announcement) One player tested positive (he's being retested to see if it was a false). He was at least within close contact on the connecting flight over to Mexico with 3 other players - who have tested negative but now having to extend their quarentine. I won't name anyone. Thanks @JasonDias. Honestly, can't say I'm surprised. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Shway said: I gotta say, it's pretty dumb that roster sizes remained at 20 even though they new that the pandemic could affect it. I get they do 20 man squads for all youth tournaments, but this one considering several factors could've been a logical anomaly. I’m not surprised sometimes some of these decisions that some of these soccer bodies make leave you scratching your head. There is a bloody pandemic going on but yet these idiots still go with these small roster sizes , I think it’s even smaller like 18 when they get to Tokyo, what kind of drugs are these people on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterlawrence5 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Hopefully just a false positive, hearing there's lots of those with professional athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, scooterlawrence5 said: Hopefully just a false positive, hearing there's lots of those with professional athletes. That's because they use the rapid testing that isn't as accurate. As an aside the TFC outbreak is now up to 9 cases. Kadenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterlawrence5 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Ridiculous that the test we all use to validate a condition isn't even entirely accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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