zeelaw Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I can't see Bayern putting up us playing him three times again in the spring schedule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, zeelaw said: I can't see Bayern putting up us playing him three times again in the spring schedule... You maybe right, but the flip side is that they bear some of the blame for starting him immediately after playing a 3 game window for us. I get that it was Leverkusen but they also have some responsibility for this tweak. lamptern, Sal333, MtlMario and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: You maybe right, but the flip side is that they bear some of the blame for starting him immediately after playing a 3 game window for us. I get that it was Leverkusen but they also have some responsibility for this tweak. Totally, that's on them. I don't think I've seen a sub after 40' like that before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I know there ain't any who doubt the Fonzie play went viral but just in case for the odd person out there, here's an Indonesian video on Davies play. If you want to sort of understand what he is saying you can select auto translate to English. It's almost comprehensible. johnyb, h coach, Kent and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 hours ago, zeelaw said: I can't see Bayern putting up us playing him three times again in the spring schedule... I wonder how much power the player has in this decision though. Davies was clearly not happy with being sent home in the prior window. Will Bayern risk pissing Davies off by forcing Canada not to play him? It’s clearly important to him that he plays as much as possible for Canada. scullion44, A_Gagne, lamptern and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, archer21 said: I wonder how much power the player has in this decision though. Davies was clearly not happy with being sent home in the prior window. Will Bayern risk pissing Davies off by forcing Canada not to play him? It’s clearly important to him that he plays as much as possible for Canada. exactly. No doubt Bayern can pressure Canada Soccer but I doubt Bayern would stand in Davies way if he really pushed for it. A_Gagne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiecanuck Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, archer21 said: I wonder how much power the player has in this decision though. Davies was clearly not happy with being sent home in the prior window. Will Bayern risk pissing Davies off by forcing Canada not to play him? It’s clearly important to him that he plays as much as possible for Canada. The player has all the power. I don't know why people are so concerned with what Bayern thinks. Davies signed a 5 year extension. He's getting paid nicely, but probably less than half what another team would pay him. He's a good soldier who has nothing but good things to say about the club and is showing loyalty. Why would they want to piss a franchise player off? Players can force themselves off clubs. I'm not too concerned about Davies availability for country. We only play 2 games next window anyways. Edited October 20, 2021 by prairiecanuck dyslexic nam, El Hombre, Kent and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig11rm Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Davies is pretty well at the point where he’s irreplaceable for Bayern. They’re a different team with him on the field and I think it gives him a lot of power in this situation. Davies is pretty well set for life if he’s smart with his money, so I think it’s an easy choice to prioritize country over club. I do hope they figure out how to manage it though because I want to see Alphonso have a long healthy career. Ruud and Ruffian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhCanadaOhBaby Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Caught a few minutes of his stream on Twitch. When someone asked about his injury his response was something along the lines of, "It's not a big deal, it wasn't even my decision, I wanted to play tomorrow" Obviously that isn't a direct quote but as he was saying he wanted to play and it wasn't even my decision he stopped himself through visible anger and frustration. He then went on a seemingly PR-prepared statement about injuries and the importance of recovering and how rehab is really difficult but Bayern have the best staff. Not exactly sure what the overall takeaways should be here. To me it sounds like he wanted to play but Bayern are treating him like a delicate wonderkid still. I mean this in more of the 'kid' sense, as to say they are babying him and he feels he is being held back. He also mentioned how he was "actually having fun playing in the game against Panama." In that more advanced role as well as on the wings, there could also be a frustration positionally with Bayern and desire to play further up where he 'actually had fun.' Although that could also be true, it mostly sounds like fuel for the Davies LW or LB debate. However, one thing for certain is that Phonzie's frustration in more ways than one, but specifically with Bayern's decision, speaks volumes to his current relationship with the club; touchy. narduch and clamlinguine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, OhCanadaOhBaby said: Caught a few minutes of his stream on Twitch. When someone asked about his injury his response was something along the lines of, "It's not a big deal, it wasn't even my decision, I wanted to play tomorrow" Obviously that isn't a direct quote but as he was saying he wanted to play and it wasn't even my decision he stopped himself through visible anger and frustration. He then went on a seemingly PR-prepared statement about injuries and the importance of recovering and how rehab is really difficult but Bayern have the best staff. Not exactly sure what the overall takeaways should be here. To me it sounds like he wanted to play but Bayern are treating him like a delicate wonderkid still. I mean this in more of the 'kid' sense, as to say they are babying him and he feels he is being held back. He also mentioned how he was "actually having fun playing in the game against Panama." In that more advanced role as well as on the wings, there could also be a frustration positionally with Bayern and desire to play further up where he 'actually had fun.' Although that could also be true, it mostly sounds like fuel for the Davies LW or LB debate. However, one thing for certain is that Phonzie's frustration in more ways than one, but specifically with Bayern's decision, speaks volumes to his current relationship with the club; touchy. If what you're suggesting is true, it might point to it being purely a Bayern decision to pull him out of the El Salvador match even though Phonz wanted to stay and play, and Herdman was happy to have him in the squad. I can't see this injury keeping him out of both Edmonton matches, unless there's a serious recurrence in the next 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 It's also possible that Bayern is just being precautionary, looks at their squad and are confident they will take care of business, and are giving Phonsy some well deserved rest after 4 matches in 10 days or whatever it was johnyb, h coach, sebdeserio and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 14 hours ago, archer21 said: I wonder how much power the player has in this decision though. Davies was clearly not happy with being sent home in the prior window. Will Bayern risk pissing Davies off by forcing Canada not to play him? It’s clearly important to him that he plays as much as possible for Canada. I honestly think Bayern and Canada's medical staff might know what's best for him - Phonzie's unique special attitude for Canada is so special and I think that resonates through the team, but we've seen young players get hurt playing too much at his age. Managers have to help guide young players who "might" still need to mature - I just don't want the young man getting hurt johnyb, Xavier., dyslexic nam and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Approve My Account Pls said: It's also possible that Bayern is just being precautionary, looks at their squad and are confident they will take care of business, and are giving Phonsy some well deserved rest after 4 matches in 10 days or whatever it was Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 While Bayern must realize they have the future on their team, they must also realize that Canada won’t be in the qualification cycle next time around. Next 6 months will be the last time to be making these trips for a long time. Sal333 and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, Ruud said: While Bayern must realize they have the future on their team, they must also realize that Canada won’t be in the qualification cycle next time around. Next 6 months will be the last time to be making these trips for a long time. This is sad to me somehow. While it's great to have a spot for 2026, the intensity of these qualifiers and the number of matches finally being played on home soil has to be a highlight for many Canadian supporters. Were we to have a disappointing WC in 2026 (3 or 4 games, with maybe one win) and those were the only life or death matches in a 4-year stretch, I'd feel like we were missing out. Xavier., sstackho, chalms04 and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, zeelaw said: I honestly think Bayern and Canada's medical staff might know what's best for him - Phonzie's unique special attitude for Canada is so special and I think that resonates through the team, but we've seen young players get hurt playing too much at his age. Managers have to help guide young players who "might" still need to mature - I just don't want the young man getting hurt 1000% The attention these professional investments receive at that level is incredible, and incredibly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Phonzie definitely pulled up a bit around the 24' mark in the Bayern game. He must have felt a tightness or twinge in his leg. Given that, the score and his recent workload, it made total sense for Bayern to sub him out. I'm actually happy that Bayern are resting their most valuable asset. MtlMario, johnyb, Approve My Account Pls and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 The whole "Bayern won't let us play Davies" conspiracy theory is odd to me. The context of him missing the El Salvador wasn't just that he played 2 games. It was that he came off injured from that 2nd game. Or am I totally making up that memory? He was hurt near the corner flag, scooched over onto the field like a good CONCACAF boy, and signalled he was hurt, and got subbed out. If he was still good to play, I don't think they would have subbed him out with 13 minutes left and the game tied. Like how would this conspiracy theory work out? Bayern on the phone with Herdman saying things like "We won't make up an injury, but then you have to promise to only play him against Honduras and El Salvador. You have to rest him against the USA." Then Herdman plays him against the USA and Bayern calls him up and says "Wrong move Herdman. Our people are outside the hotel now. Davies will be in a car with them in 10 minutes, or your wife doesn't live to see tomorrow." <wife screaming in the background> If he has a bit of an injury at the time of the window, sure maybe they are overly cautious and tell us he is hurt. But Herdman is proving he will call injured players (much to our chagrin) and Davies is showing that he wants to play even when injured. So no doubt he would be interested in travelling just to have our doctors look at him and hope he gets cleared to play. Xavier., NVsoccer and Approve My Account Pls 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I think Herdman just made a smart call for the El Salvador game. We didn’t need Davies and wanted to do what was best for him and us long term. That good faith made it possible for us to start him 3 games without question in October IMO. The next windows shouldn’t be issues either. 2 games next month and then January Germany is on break. The last window might be do or die so there can’t be any reasonable club demands of Davies. h coach, johnyb, Xavier. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, Kent said: The whole "Bayern won't let us play Davies" conspiracy theory is odd to me. The context of him missing the El Salvador wasn't just that he played 2 games. It was that he came off injured from that 2nd game. Or am I totally making up that memory? He was hurt near the corner flag, scooched over onto the field like a good CONCACAF boy, and signalled he was hurt, and got subbed out. If he was still good to play, I don't think they would have subbed him out with 13 minutes left and the game tied. Like how would this conspiracy theory work out? Bayern on the phone with Herdman saying things like "We won't make up an injury, but then you have to promise to only play him against Honduras and El Salvador. You have to rest him against the USA." Then Herdman plays him against the USA and Bayern calls him up and says "Wrong move Herdman. Our people are outside the hotel now. Davies will be in a car with them in 10 minutes, or your wife doesn't live to see tomorrow." <wife screaming in the background> If he has a bit of an injury at the time of the window, sure maybe they are overly cautious and tell us he is hurt. But Herdman is proving he will call injured players (much to our chagrin) and Davies is showing that he wants to play even when injured. So no doubt he would be interested in travelling just to have our doctors look at him and hope he gets cleared to play. I think its just a matter of we're a bunch of fans on a forum and heighten anything we possibly can when there's missing pieces to our puzzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 lol anyone who plays FUT will appreciate this (significant headphone warning though) Approve My Account Pls, scullion44, Red and White and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Not in the lineup this morning. Hopefully Bayern are just being cautious with him (and making sure he is ready for Edmonton). Mattd97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Davies started training yesterday …Bayern expecting him back in the mid-week cup match vs Gladbach. PegCityCam, johnyb and dyslexic nam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Floortom said: Davies started training yesterday …Bayern expecting him back in the mid-week cup match vs Gladbach. Got up "early" to see him on Sportsnet 😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Guess I'll settle for watching the best player in the world score one of the best goals I've ever seen live🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now