Canuckia Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 26 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Yoro as well, so I would guess trying to drum up a bidding war. Yeah. United is interested in both apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 If this is really for real and Manchester United really are interested in David, can he fit in an Erik Ten Hag system? But also I mean I would love it if only because he gets to play with players like Mainoo, Hojlund, Garnacho, etc but with Ten Hag as his manager though...talk about stacking the deck because Ten Hag is a mess jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckia Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 13 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: If this is really for real and Manchester United really are interested in David, can he fit in an Erik Ten Hag system? But also I mean I would love it if only because he gets to play with players like Mainoo, Hojlund, Garnacho, etc but with Ten Hag as his manager though...talk about stacking the deck because Ten Hag is a mess A lot of the players seem to really respect him and have spoken out saying he is getting a bad rap and needs to be given more time. Very tough environment when things aren't going well. TGAA_Star and costarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckia Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, TGAA_Star said: So pretty much on a free transfer No. I think that just means they're open to offers. Basically putting the "For Sale" sign in the window. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, Canuckia said: Yeah. United is interested in both apparently. One thing I read (it might be in the thing I posted above) was that Ten Hag wanted Brobby (knows him from Ajax) if he was staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: One thing I read (it might be in the thing I posted above) was that Ten Hag wanted Brobby (knows him from Ajax) if he was staying. ETH spending big money to bring one of his former Ajax players to Manchester has never gone badly before, has it? 😄 WestHamCanadianinOxford, jhoops__ and Canuckia 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckia Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 29 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: One thing I read (it might be in the thing I posted above) was that Ten Hag wanted Brobby (knows him from Ajax) if he was staying. Good point. David seems to be Ratcliffe's choice. I guess we'll have to see how transfer negotiations play out. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 59 minutes ago, Canuckia said: Good point. David seems to be Ratcliffe's choice. I guess we'll have to see how transfer negotiations play out. If Ratcliffe does want David and he signs to Manchester United, then David will just be a part of the rebuild especially because United are not in Champions League. But to see David at Old Trafford, I admit I probably would buy a David United jersey. jhoops__ and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 It would be incredible no doubt and I’m not a United supporter… Canuckia, costarg and TGAA_Star 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 David did more than his share to help Lille get into champions league quals this year. If he goes to United, he should be seen as a guy who can make them better and get them there too. I’m not worried about him going to a non-champions league club, because if he’s the guy we think he is, he should be one of the missing pieces that gets a team over the jump. If not, that’s fine- he’ll find his way back to France or to some other decent club, but this is a guy who should be sold to a club that thinks he’s a difference maker. Really don’t want Manchester United, but at this point can’t really be picky. johnyb, Canuckia and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 AC Milan: Former Lille boss Paulo Fonseca appointed new manager of Milan - BBC Sport Canuckia, jhoops__, GasPed and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, Kadenge said: AC Milan: Former Lille boss Paulo Fonseca appointed new manager of Milan - BBC Sport And the plot thickens...... Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 43 minutes ago, Kadenge said: AC Milan: Former Lille boss Paulo Fonseca appointed new manager of Milan - BBC Sport The story was a couple weeks ago that Fonesca wanted "a different profile" than David at Milan. If true, I would guess bigger: he loves attacking width from his fullbacks especially but also his attackers and maybe if had his druthers, he would have a bigger man to get on the end of crosses. 57 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: David did more than his share to help Lille get into champions league quals this year. If he goes to United, he should be seen as a guy who can make them better and get them there too. I’m not worried about him going to a non-champions league club, because if he’s the guy we think he is, he should be one of the missing pieces that gets a team over the jump. If not, that’s fine- he’ll find his way back to France or to some other decent club, but this is a guy who should be sold to a club that thinks he’s a difference maker. Really don’t want Manchester United, but at this point can’t really be picky. He needs to go where he will start before anything. Is Man U going to go with 2 strikers all the time, or even a fair bit of the time? Not usually what ten Hag does. He is not going to take Fernandes' place either nor is he a wide attacker. But options are limited if you say moving up leagues, starting, Europe at least, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: The story was a couple weeks ago that Fonesca wanted "a different profile" than David at Milan. If true, I would guess bigger: he loves attacking width from his fullbacks especially but also his attackers and maybe if had his druthers, he would have a bigger man to get on the end of crosses. He needs to go where he will start before anything. Is Man U going to go with 2 strikers all the time, or even a fair bit of the time? Not usually what ten Hag does. He is not going to take Fernandes' place either nor is he a wide attacker. But options are limited if you say moving up leagues, starting, Europe at least, etc. Honestly, if there's not a *better* option, he might almost be better off staying at Lille for one more year. He'd play on the CL and next year when he's free I'm sure he'd get a lot more offers and at a better wage foe himself. It might not be what Lille wants, but they let it get to this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: The story was a couple weeks ago that Fonesca wanted "a different profile" than David at Milan. If true, I would guess bigger: he loves attacking width from his fullbacks especially but also his attackers and maybe if had his druthers, he would have a bigger man to get on the end of crosses. He needs to go where he will start before anything. Is Man U going to go with 2 strikers all the time, or even a fair bit of the time? Not usually what ten Hag does. He is not going to take Fernandes' place either nor is he a wide attacker. But options are limited if you say moving up leagues, starting, Europe at least, etc. Hojlund started 25 of 38 matches so he’s not a 100% locked in starter. I do agree it would be difficult for David to be that guy too though. I could see him getting maybe half the starts and coming on as a sub for a bunch more though. jhoops__ and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Which is why if David were at let's say Arsenal, Chelsea, Brighton or Newcastle even he would have more of a chance to start at those clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Yeah, I don’t think so. All of those clubs have at least equal talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, archer21 said: Hojlund started 25 of 38 matches so he’s not a 100% locked in starter. I do agree it would be difficult for David to be that guy too though. I could see him getting maybe half the starts and coming on as a sub for a bunch more though. Hojlund missed 8 games because of fitness and 2 non-starts were coming back from groups of the former. Ten Hag did get cute the last couple games and started with no striker but Holjlund came on and scored in both and they won. Huge risk if you are David and you are counting on starts barring another bad fitness year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 36 minutes ago, jhoops__ said: Yeah, I don’t think so. All of those clubs have at least equal talent. That’s true. They are not only some of the biggest clubs in the world but some of the biggest clubs in England. 🙃 jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Hojlund missed 8 games because of fitness and 2 non-starts were coming back from groups of the former. Ten Hag did get cute the last couple games and started with no striker but Holjlund came on and scored in both and they won. Huge risk if you are David and you are counting on starts barring another bad fitness year. Yeah I’m not saying he’ll be the starter but I think he’s versatile enough to play a good amount of minutes between CAM/ST/winger. Winning the FA Cup saved them as they’ll be in Europe again, as well as all the domestic cup competitions. Plenty of minutes to go around. Certainly if he could go to a top team and be an every day starter, that’s better, but that’s not always an easy ask at the top levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 42 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Which is why if David were at let's say Arsenal, Chelsea, Brighton or Newcastle even he would have more of a chance to start at those clubs 36 minutes ago, jhoops__ said: Yeah, I don’t think so. All of those clubs have at least equal talent. I go back to Villa. Apparently Duran wants out and they did play with 2 strikers (with Watkins) a fair bit. jhoops__, Canuckia and TGAA_Star 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: I go back to Villa. Apparently Duran wants out and they did play with 2 strikers (with Watkins) a fair bit. Aston Villa as another potential club for David...well Villa are about to play in Champions League this upcoming season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, archer21 said: Yeah I’m not saying he’ll be the starter but I think he’s versatile enough to play a good amount of minutes between CAM/ST/winger. Winning the FA Cup saved them as they’ll be in Europe again, as well as all the domestic cup competitions. Plenty of minutes to go around. Certainly if he could go to a top team and be an every day starter, that’s better, but that’s not always an easy ask at the top levels. We said the same above, but for me other than a big name and being able to watch him easily Man U provides a riskier pathway to the things he needs (at least for us). TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: We said the same above, but for me other than a big name and being able to watch him easily Man U provides a riskier pathway to the things he needs (at least for us). Yeah it does but for David to play with a manager like Erik Ten Hag who is basically a puppet at United or he's easily controlled by the Glazers and Ratcliffe...I don't know if that's a manager I wanna play for. United not that long ago wanted to get rid of him and the supporters wanted him gone. But no he wins the FA Cup so 🤷🏿 they say yeah we'll keep him around. Only at United they do things like this and is David the kind of player Ten Hag would even want in this side? Ten Hag is so used to players who he knows or has a relationship with. David probably wouldn't even factor into his plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 hours ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: The story was a couple weeks ago that Fonesca wanted "a different profile" than David at Milan. If true, I would guess bigger: he loves attacking width from his fullbacks especially but also his attackers and maybe if had his druthers, he would have a bigger man to get on the end of crosses. He needs to go where he will start before anything. Is Man U going to go with 2 strikers all the time, or even a fair bit of the time? Not usually what ten Hag does. He is not going to take Fernandes' place either nor is he a wide attacker. But options are limited if you say moving up leagues, starting, Europe at least, etc. Are United still bought into Hojlund enough to guarantee him starts every week? I believe he was moved to the bench towards end of last year, no? They paid a gazillion dollars for him and he’s still 3 years younger than JD, but these things move fast. I’m not sure why they’d be interested in David unless they did intend to start him though. Even if his price tag did drop to €20-30M or whatever the new number is, I don’t know if clubs want to spend that on their backup/cup striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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