costarg Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 55 minutes ago, jhoops__ said: David is good enough for UCL no doubt…so many teams make it now anyway. Absolutely good enough, but wanting CL limits how many teams he can go to. Wanting a league better than France and CL, means he only has 16 teams to choose from. And even those teams don't automatically make it each year. You can say only half of these are a "guarantee" to make it again next year. England (4): Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa Spain (4): Real Madrid, Barcelona, Girona, Atlético de Madrid Germany (4): Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Bayern, Leipzig Italy (5): Inter, Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna, TGAA_Star, jhoops__ and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Bundesliga would be a good fit. A good comp is Openda and he had a terrific season with Leipzig. narduch and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, costarg said: England (4): Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa Spain (4): Real Madrid, Barcelona, Girona, Atlético de Madrid Germany (4): Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Bayern, Leipzig Italy (5): Inter, Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna, Dortmund are there as well. costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Don't think it makes sense to just look at current UCL teams. Lot of teams want to bring in a player like David specifically to help them reach UCL. Manchester United, Chelsea, Newcastle, Napoli, so on, don't plan on staying where they're currently at forever. If that wasn't the case, might as well stay at Lille who are already in UCL quals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 3 hours ago, costarg said: Absolutely good enough, but wanting CL limits how many teams he can go to. Wanting a league better than France and CL, means he only has 16 teams to choose from. And even those teams don't automatically make it each year. You can say only half of these are a "guarantee" to make it again next year. England (4): Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa Spain (4): Real Madrid, Barcelona, Girona, Atlético de Madrid Germany (4): Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Bayern, Leipzig Italy (5): Inter, Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna, Leagues that make the most sense for David to play in...Serie A in Italy 🇮🇹 either with Inter because in our system under Inzaghi, he would not only be club teammates with Tajon but also at Inter, he helps strengthen our team even more in the attack playing alongside players like Lautaro, Thuram, etc Juventus needs another striker especially if Vlahovic 🇷🇸 leaves In the Bundesliga, another league fit, best option would be Leverkeusen especially playing under Xabi Alonso. Alonso would definitely use David the right way. In Germany 🇩🇪 he gets to go up against Davies (Bayern) every week. La Liga Santander... Spain 🇪🇸...David going to a team like Atletico does make sense yes but going to Barcelona actually would be huge. Even if Barca are going through it financially right now, David wouldn't necessarily hurt their budget especially if he were to go there. Barcelona he would be playing alongside Lewandowski and I just love that fit. Arsenal in the Premier League in England 🏴 we need a striker who is a bonafide target man and David gives us that. I know Arteta would definitely use David in the right way and in Arsenal alongside players like Odegaard, Saka, Havertz especially up in the attack he strengthens our team when it comes to contending for that Premier League trophy. longlugan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 59 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Don't think it makes sense to just look at current UCL teams. Lot of teams want to bring in a player like David specifically to help them reach UCL. Manchester United, Chelsea, Newcastle, Napoli, so on, don't plan on staying where they're currently at forever. If that wasn't the case, might as well stay at Lille who are already in UCL quals. That's exactly my point. We keep saying higher league than France and UCL, it's a gamble either way. He might not start or even play much on the top teams and I don't think a team at his level necessarily makes it every year. Hence I'm happy with Europa or even staying in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 24 minutes ago, costarg said: That's exactly my point. We keep saying higher league than France and UCL, it's a gamble either way. He might not start or even play much on the top teams and I don't think a team at his level necessarily makes it every year. Hence I'm happy with Europa or even staying in France. I am normally okay with players staying another year more than some but if Lille is going to be stripped for parts again, he needs to move on. Villa would be nice if they need him. Duran (Duran) was coming on strong at the end of the season. Atletico seems the one with the most legs at the moment but the waves of paper talk may be just that. Milan being downplayed which is a shame. Stuggart I haven't heard but one striker is on loan and the other, though he just got there, is linked away. As far as team in the England in the Europa League Spurs - enough said Man U - obviously a ton of talent but that there are arguing about the manager still is concerning and Hojlund is not going anywhere. Edited June 4 by WestHamCanadianinOxford TGAA_Star, jhoops__ and InglewoodJack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 johnyb, blueseeka, Unnamed Trialist and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 ^just for context… Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 26 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: I am normally okay with players staying another year more than some but if Lille is going to be stripped for parts again, he needs to move on. Villa would be nice if they need him. Duran (Duran) was coming on strong at the end of the season. Atletico seems the one with the most legs at the moment but the waves of paper talk may be just that. Milan being downplayed which is a shame. Stuggart I haven't heard but one striker is on loan and the other, though he just got there, is linked away. As far as team in the England in the Europa League Spurs - enough said Man U - obviously a ton of talent but that there are arguing about the manager still is concerning and Hojlund is not going anywhere. I agree on the details, but it just goes to prove the point further. Lets say he signs a 3 or 5 year contract. How many times will he really play CL with Villa, Stuttgart or even Milan? There are no guarantees of CL for a player at his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 42 minutes ago, jhoops__ said: ^just for context… It's useful, but the real issue are the clubs that can pay a transfer and a higher salary. For example, Girona can't and won't. Remember that the main reasons for David to move on are 1-new challenge at a higher level and 2-salary, as right now he makes under 2 million euros, that is low for his level but Lille can't go higher and probably would prefer to sell rather than get into higher salary levels. costarg, Aird25 and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: It's useful, but the real issue are the clubs that can pay a transfer and a higher salary. For example, Girona can't and won't. Remember that the main reasons for David to move on are 1-new challenge at a higher level and 2-salary, as right now he makes under 2 million euros, that is low for his level but Lille can't go higher and probably would prefer to sell rather than get into higher salary levels. I'm glad you mentioned salary. That just might be a factor in some players' decisions costarg, johnyb and jhoops__ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 9 minutes ago, costarg said: I agree on the details, but it just goes to prove the point further. Lets say he signs a 3 or 5 year contract. How many times will he really play CL with Villa, Stuttgart or even Milan? There are no guarantees of CL for a player at his level. Beyond maybe 10 clubs in the world, there are no guarantees of Champions League for any club in the top 5 leagues. Man City are the only English club to have been there for 5 years straight ( to use your contract length) Spain has 3 with that record - Atletico is the 3rd. Inter, Milan have been there 4 years Bayern, Dortmund and Leipzig have done it PSG the only one in France. I agree that it can't be a dealbreaker but that should be the goal. costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I'd like to see him land at a club where he can continue to compete for trophies. Of the teams mentioned/rumoured, I think that's realistically only Milan and Atletico. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 19 minutes ago, Watchmen said: I'd like to see him land at a club where he can continue to compete for trophies. Of the teams mentioned/rumoured, I think that's realistically only Milan and Atletico. He would at least be playing Champions League football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 New coach, for how long? jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauditYvon Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 On 6/3/2024 at 4:19 AM, Unnamed Trialist said: Another reason the Atlético option makes sense is they bought Reinildo just last year from Lille, and were pleased with him. So they have contacts with Lille and a good experience. Reinildo could be part of the deal https://www.sport.fr/football/losc-jonathan-david-pret-a-refuser-lac-milan-pour-signer-a-1171095.shtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I believe Milan is about to trigger Joshua Zirkzee’s €40M release clause, so unsure if they’re still looking at David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) Hate to get my hopes up with David transfer rumours but I am coming to really like the idea of Atletico. League level up, regular Champions League, class teamates, hometown connections. The bad news rumours are that all I see in the English press is them linked with Julian Alvarez. Edited June 6 by WestHamCanadianinOxford jhoops__, Nello and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, MauditYvon said: Reinildo could be part of the deal https://www.sport.fr/football/losc-jonathan-david-pret-a-refuser-lac-milan-pour-signer-a-1171095.shtm It was not what I was imagining though, and I hardly think Reinildo would accept returning to Lille. As I said, I thought they were pleased with him. What it does say, however, is that Atlético feel they can't pay a straight-up fee and have to find other options to make a deal work. In other Lille news, I see Real Madrid is stepping up interest in the young CB Yoro, as are many other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadasoccer20 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I would argue these next two games in Europe vs France and Netherlands are more important for JD club career then his COPA performances. I feel like the Euro clubs tracking David right now will be focusing more on the Euros then the Copa so hopefully he steps up in these friendlies and makes a mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 L’Equipe saying he’s gone for sure this summer Sport saying his price is now €20M. Damn https://www.sport.fr/football/losc-20me-seulement-pour-jonathan-david-1174656.shtm narduch, jhoops__, johnyb and 8 others 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: L’Equipe saying he’s gone for sure this summer Sport saying his price is now €20M. Damn https://www.sport.fr/football/losc-20me-seulement-pour-jonathan-david-1174656.shtm If he's gone gone then I hope more clubs show interest in David other than the usuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Put $2 on a David goal today. Pays $20. narduch, dyslexic nam and Canuckia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 David scoring against France I can't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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