Jack1997 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 6 hours ago, An Observer said: Needs to get in a fight for the Gordie Howe hat trick 3 fights and he could have a hat trick of Gordie Howe hat tricks frmr, Canuckia, costarg and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/07/sport/golden-lion-travels-8600-miles-lille-coupe-de-france-spt-intl/index.html Interesting take on the day by Fonseca. Not sure how what used to be called "a polite win" gets to 12-nil but OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I was scanning the internet for stories about possible striker signings for struggling Arsenal and David's name never came up in any of the articles that I have read. And yet all the suggestions made were for pretty high priced guys. Free kick and jhoops__ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 No idea what Lille’s plan is for David. He only has 1 1/2 years left on his deal so for them his value is going down. Now there’s talk about Zhegrova possibly on the move and he’s their only decent winger. They’re going to lose Fonseca as well this summer so the sooner he gets out the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 hours ago, BearcatSA said: I was scanning the internet for stories about possible striker signings for struggling Arsenal and David's name never came up in any of the articles that I have read. And yet all the suggestions made were for pretty high priced guys. Hard to argue with names like Osimhen/Toney or even Solanke who is red hot. Although Toney hasn't played a 1st team game in a while and Osimhen is away for 1 mth. Too much pressure for David at Arsenal going in at this stage. Would rather him stay at Lille to the end of the season, as painful as that is. jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Saw on twitter he was linked with Villa and Man U. I want him to move badly but anywhere but Man U, career suicide at this point. Edited January 8 by Chad_Impact Shway, Corazon, Borjans Sweatpants and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Fabrizio was on the United Stand this morning and Mark asked him about David and he said that David would cost too much for United and with one year on his deal the price is now around 30-40m euros. Borjans Sweatpants, GasPed and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 It's got to be very frustrating for David. Every player on that first Lille squad in season 1 and most on subsequent squads have moved to top 4 leagues other than Andre and Yazici who has been on several loan stints. I mean even Ikone & Bamba are at Fiorentina and Celta Vigo. Lille are normally good at buying and selling players but they've messed up with David. cronaldo7, lowlander, narduch and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I wonder where he could end up hypothetically if he just runs out his contract and leaves on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: I wonder where he could end up hypothetically if he just runs out his contract and leaves on a free. That would be terrible business for them. I think he still has another year and a half on contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 17 minutes ago, Chad_Impact said: That would be terrible business for them. I think he still has another year and a half on contract The "half" is the remaining 6 months of this year...I would assume Lille will be actively looking to sell him immediately because it might be smart to ride out his contract and then "pick" his club. It would be terrible business from Lille, but there hands could be tied if there isn't any suitors soon. Corazon, johnyb, Canuckia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 39 minutes ago, Shway said: The "half" is the remaining 6 months of this year...I would assume Lille will be actively looking to sell him immediately because it might be smart to ride out his contract and then "pick" his club. It would be terrible business from Lille, but there hands could be tied if there isn't any suitors soon. Exactly I think they'll be forced to sell with reduced fee at some point here Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 In the Coupe de France, Lille will face the Racing Club de France (4th tier). Racing Club de France are based in the Paris suburb of Colombes. johnyb, Corazon, narduch and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 47 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: In the Coupe de France, Lille will face the Racing Club de France (4th tier). Racing Club de France are based in the Paris suburb of Colombes. Another 6-pointer incoming? An Observer, cornerkick, Canuckia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If I'm Lille, these are exactly the kind of showcase/pad-the-stats games you want Jonny in and playing the full 90. Canuckia, Corazon, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Chad_Impact said: Exactly I think they'll be forced to sell with reduced fee at some point here Perhaps they have already been willing to lower their asking price significantly? No one knows, no rumours of such I have seen but perhaps some can post the most recent X links of such news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noted Penguin Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Lille paid 30m for the top scorer in Belgium and for the most part have got their moneys worth. At this point you'd have to figure they stand to make a lot more on Yoro who's still only 18 and is getting looks from big clubs all over. Until they land a new striker with potential (which is currently runoured) it's likely JD stays where he is. That said compared to Rasmus Hojlund @ 74m he's a bargain jhoops__, johnyb and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 43 minutes ago, Noted Penguin said: Lille paid 30m for the top scorer in Belgium and for the most part have got their moneys worth. At this point you'd have to figure they stand to make a lot more on Yoro who's still only 18 and is getting looks from big clubs all over. Until they land a new striker with potential (which is currently runoured) it's likely JD stays where he is. That said compared to Rasmus Hojlund @ 74m he's a bargain I don’t know man. Giving away 10 or 20 million by letting him go on a free in 18 months just isn’t good business. Corazon, johnyb, Shway and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I highly doubt Lille will let their record signing walk for free. He'll be sold in the summer unless anyone is desperate enough this window, which looks unlikely. johnyb and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, frmr said: I highly doubt Lille will let their record signing walk for free. He'll be sold in the summer unless anyone is desperate enough this window, which looks unlikely. Record goal scorer (modern Ligue 1 history) too. Lille also has a history of making a profit on all their players. Just look at the past 5 years...Gabriel Maghalese, Oshimen, Leao, Onana, Botman, and Pepe. They'll definitely cash in. Edited January 9 by Shway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 22 hours ago, Chad_Impact said: That would be terrible business for them. I think he still has another year and a half on contract It might not be their decision though. If the offers aren’t there, they can either sell David for a negligible profit or have him help them reach champions league next season and consider that added revenue their profit. It would obviously be better for everyone if they can sell him for the 40-50M they were looking for, but if that’s not available, not sure if it makes sense to sell him off for €35M. Lille is a selling club, they also probably don’t want to depress the market for when it comes to selling their next young striker in a few years. Obinna and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Trois Reds, Nello, Corazon and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckia Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 20 hours ago, Obinna said: As much as I would love to see him at United, the team I have supported all of my life. I can't help but agree that he would be better off to avoid that chaos for awhile atleast. Edited January 10 by Canuckia Obinna, Shway and NVsoccer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) The many arguments here relating what Lille paid to what they should ask for, the minimum transfer payment they should receive and so on, are incorrect. In no case is the business of buying a player and selling on only based on making money compared to what you paid. Because in this case you have already recouped the investment, merely having a player on your team has to be built into the equation. Even if they do not produce. But he has produced, he has more than redeemed himself, with his goals, with their league title, with what it got you (a Champions League run). Arguably it is still helping fill your relatively new, large stadium, it has raised your tv value in France, where Lille were never historically a team fans watched (Marseille, Monaco, Lyon, PSG...). I find it odd folks are making calculations as if the value he has given to the club does not count: that is mistaken, it is not part of football accounting, and in fact it is not part of any accounting. A hire, and the cost incurred, are not just an investment on future sell-ons, they are investments for the value you get from the employee, in this case from a player on the pitch. Then there is the question of salary. For Lille, if they wanted to keep and renew David, which if they were to make Champions League for next season with him scoring better this season, would not be entirely far-fetched, they would have to pay him more. That is a fixed cost, which perhaps they could distribute better to other striker options coming up. In any case, how much David goes for is not really our concern. In fact, if he goes for less (which I think he will), that benefits him, as it enables him to negotiate better contract terms with his new club. For Canada he'd be just as useful at a mid-to-high club in a big league, say Brighton or Wolfsburg or Betis, on a decent salary, with minutes. This is why I find the obsessing over interest from big clubs a bit immature (JJDTV), he is not producing enough, in an inferior league, to warrant any serious consideration from a major club. I think he'll go for less than they paid, next summer, for less than 20 million even. Unless he goes berserk this season and we make the Copa America with a good performance from him. And it really won't make a difference, not to Lille, not to him, not to Canada. Edited January 9 by Unnamed Trialist rkomar, El Diego, cronaldo7 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noted Penguin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) UT I agree with you're post in general but I'd discuss a few of the details like "he is not producing enough, in an inferior league, to warrant any serious consideration from a major club". That my friend tha is a real hot take. JD has 105 goals is 240 some games in his senior career. Hojlung has 30 in 120. I'm not sure whether you're saying that most transfers are based on who's on a hot streak or that Man U isn't a major club. Both can't be true The other aspect of this is, it seems JD has always had really good peronal advisors, a real good sense of what he wants and the character and determination to stay the course. To sum it up I think he'll go to the club of his choosing whenever the opportunity arises and what Lille gets will have very little to do with it. Edited January 9 by Noted Penguin Corazon, Unnamed Trialist and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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