Floortom Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) David was ranked at 120 based on the Guardian’s full list of votes. the only other concacaf players listed were Antonio at 142 and Pulisic at 161. Edited December 24, 2021 by Floortom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, Floortom said: David was ranked at 120 based on the Guardian’s full list of votes. the only other concacaf players listed were Antonio at 142 and Pulisic at 166. Only 5 CONCACAF players in the top 166? Ruud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: Only 5 CONCACAF players in the top 166? Full list here..it’s not showing up great on my phone so may be misreading some of it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ffeMKP6AomZ5meLxo-G83H2vFLuhrU8lKoiXbhhpESw/edit#gid=3 Ruud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Floortom said: Full list here..it’s not showing up great on my phone so may be misreading some of it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ffeMKP6AomZ5meLxo-G83H2vFLuhrU8lKoiXbhhpESw/edit#gid=3 CONCACAF not showing up great, period. The Rodney Dangerfield of the soccer world Free kick and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 CONCACAF hasn't done well in the world cups in a long time. The only way we are going to get respect is to start going far in those competitions. You can also add playing with flair rather than gutting out wins. I have a feeling that the recent changes to the region's competitions will raise the level overall in our conference, and help us start on the long road to earning that respect from the rest of the world. I know that improvements in the USA and our team have hurt Mexico's ranking recently, but I expect that this new competition will push Mexico to be better in the long run (something that they haven't needed to do in a long time). I'm hoping that we won't be the Rodney Dangerfield's of the soccer world anymore after the 2026 world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, rkomar said: CONCACAF hasn't done well in the world cups in a long time. The only way we are going to get respect is to start going far in those competitions. You can also add playing with flair rather than gutting out wins. I have a feeling that the recent changes to the region's competitions will raise the level overall in our conference, and help us start on the long road to earning that respect from the rest of the world. I know that improvements in the USA and our team have hurt Mexico's ranking recently, but I expect that this new competition will push Mexico to be better in the long run (something that they haven't needed to do in a long time). I'm hoping that we won't be the Rodney Dangerfield's of the soccer world anymore after the 2026 world cup. I went through the results once, and CONCACAF has done worse than UEFA and Conmebol at WC finals (I think the metric I used was % of qualified teams advancing from the group stage) but better than Asia and Africa. Free kick, Ruud and maccaliam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Well. It’s good that according to the Guardian we have 2 of the top 3 players in Concacaf and there are no Mexicans in the top 5 and only one American h coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Son is the only Asian who comes to mind off the list from the region. Africa as always has plenty of talent in the ranks but whose nations underperform in senior tournaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 9:29 AM, Floortom said: I would have thought that David would be somewhere between Yilmaz and Vlahovic. So in the 60-80 range. To be fair, having two players from Lille would have been a bit strange They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 6 hours ago, jonovision said: I went through the results once, and CONCACAF has done worse than UEFA and Conmebol at WC finals (I think the metric I used was % of qualified teams advancing from the group stage) but better than Asia and Africa. I looked at a lot of different categories a while back (after 2014). CONCACAF was better than AFC and CAF in a lot of things. Like group stage points per game, points per game in games between those three confederations, fewer teams losing all 3 of their games, and I made up a quick and dirty point system where you get -1 for your region if you finish last in the group, 0 for finishing 3rd in the group, and you get a point for each time you advance. CONCACAF was well ahead of AFC and CAF in that measure. I think CONCACAF had a better record in inter-confederation playoffs than AFC as well (CAF doesn't play in them). It's a bit ridiculous CONCACAF doesn't have more spots than they do, or less spots for AFC/CAF. Ivan and Free kick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Ruud said: They did win a top 5 league! Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented!! Did they win a top 5 league? BLennard, Ivan, Brethers8 and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 15 hours ago, An Observer said: Did they win a top 5 league? Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented!! youllneverwalkalone and GasPed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) On 12/24/2021 at 3:11 PM, jonovision said: I went through the results once, and CONCACAF has done worse than UEFA and Conmebol at WC finals (I think the metric I used was % of qualified teams advancing from the group stage) but better than Asia and Africa. You are correct. I posted this before, so its worth reposting: How Concacaf Teams at the WC have done since 1994: 2018 (Russia)……..Mex (R16) 2014 (Brazil)……….Mex (R16)…..US (R16)…..CRC (1/4) 2010 (S. Afr)……….Mex (R16)…..US (R16) 2006 (Germany)…Mex (R16) 2002 (Jpn/S.Kor)..Mex (R16)…..US (1\4) 1998 (France)…….Mex (R16) 1994 (US)…………..Mex (R16)…..US (R16) Concacaf is most definitely the Rodney Dangerfield Edited December 25, 2021 by Free kick johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 David makes L’Equipe readers’ Team of 2021 Obinna, canadasoccer20, sebdeserio and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/article/canadians-abroad-roundup-jonathan-david-among-europes-elite/ lowlander and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewater17 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Just leaving here a compilation Ligue 1 made of all Jonathan David's goals up to the midway point of this season. Who knows, hopefully by the end of this season there will be a 10-15 minute video compilation 🙏🏼. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzhl4bSjKyU Edited December 30, 2021 by Edgewater17 red card and maccaliam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 10:58 PM, An Observer said: Did they win a top 5 league? Don’t know why it got repeated. Just one of those things. Thanks for not being too harsh An Observer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/25/2021 at 11:48 AM, RS said: Atletico Madrid inter Bayern city all well represented!! You can say that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Lille have confirmed the sale of Ikone to la Fiore this morning. Cost apparently is 14million euros plus variables. To be signed when the Italian market opens in the new year. I see rumours that Jovic, from Real Madrid, is a possible target for Newcastle, so that would clear up a spot for a possible David signing there. HochelagaFC, narduch, johnyb and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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