Kadenge Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Did Timo Werner do anything during his time with Chelsea to warrant a move to Spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 As an Arsenal fan, I was hoping that he would end up at Spurs as I think their current style of play is perfect for him to get back to his peak Genk early Lille days. United is a graveyard where only the homegrowns survive. If the rumors are true, Aston Villa would be a great alternative for him . jhoops__, Canuckia, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Shway said: I was hoping that he would end up at Spurs as I think their current style of play is perfect for him to get back to his peak Genk early Lille days. Would love to see David work with Son. Edited January 10 by costarg Corazon and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Its being reported by the BBC that Man U is putting a 34 million Euro bid for David , Corazon, johnyb, jhoops__ and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasta88 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 hours ago, Shway said: As an Arsenal fan, I was hoping that he would end up at Spurs as I think their current style of play is perfect for him to get back to his peak Genk early Lille days. United is a graveyard where only the homegrowns survive. If the rumors are true, Aston Villa would be a great alternative for him . Gent not Genk… Obinna and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 12 hours ago, Noted Penguin said: UT I agree with you're post in general but I'd discuss a few of the details like "he is not producing enough, in an inferior league, to warrant any serious consideration from a major club". That my friend tha is a real hot take. JD has 105 goals is 240 some games in his senior career. Hojlung has 30 in 120. I'm not sure whether you're saying that most transfers are based on who's on a hot streak or that Man U isn't a major club. Both can't be true The other aspect of this is, it seems JD has always had really good peronal advisors, a real good sense of what he wants and the character and determination to stay the course. To sum it up I think he'll go to the club of his choosing whenever the opportunity arises and what Lille gets will have very little to do with it. I fully agree his overall stats are good, but right now, he is not producing. Even if he had 3-4 more goals from open play this first half of the season, the value would hold up. But it's his responsibility, he's the one who has to keep the value up. I am not talking about penalties, and if you compare, Lille is not drawing penalties this year like they did even last season, I am talking about open play. In any case, 105 in 240 is good, but maybe equivalent to 20-25% less in a big four league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 17 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: The many arguments here relating what Lille paid to what they should ask for, the minimum transfer payment they should receive and so on, are incorrect. In no case is the business of buying a player and selling on only based on making money compared to what you paid. Because in this case you have already recouped the investment, merely having a player on your team has to be built into the equation. Even if they do not produce. But he has produced, he has more than redeemed himself, with his goals, with their league title, with what it got you (a Champions League run). Arguably it is still helping fill your relatively new, large stadium, it has raised your tv value in France, where Lille were never historically a team fans watched (Marseille, Monaco, Lyon, PSG...). I find it odd folks are making calculations as if the value he has given to the club does not count: that is mistaken, it is not part of football accounting, and in fact it is not part of any accounting. A hire, and the cost incurred, are not just an investment on future sell-ons, they are investments for the value you get from the employee, in this case from a player on the pitch. Then there is the question of salary. For Lille, if they wanted to keep and renew David, which if they were to make Champions League for next season with him scoring better this season, would not be entirely far-fetched, they would have to pay him more. That is a fixed cost, which perhaps they could distribute better to other striker options coming up. In any case, how much David goes for is not really our concern. In fact, if he goes for less (which I think he will), that benefits him, as it enables him to negotiate better contract terms with his new club. For Canada he'd be just as useful at a mid-to-high club in a big league, say Brighton or Wolfsburg or Betis, on a decent salary, with minutes. This is why I find the obsessing over interest from big clubs a bit immature (JJDTV), he is not producing enough, in an inferior league, to warrant any serious consideration from a major club. I think he'll go for less than they paid, next summer, for less than 20 million even. Unless he goes berserk this season and we make the Copa America with a good performance from him. And it really won't make a difference, not to Lille, not to him, not to Canada. Off topic, but it looks like One Soccer parted ways with JJDTV Edited January 10 by narduch jhoops__ and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, narduch said: Off topic, but it looks like One Soccer parted ways with JJDTV What makes you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 9 hours ago, gigi riva said: Its being reported by the BBC that Man U is putting a 34 million Euro bid for David , Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Aird25 said: What makes you think that? He was promoting his old YouTube channel again on Twitter. Edited January 10 by narduch johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Arsenal - Yes Spurs - Yes Villa - Begrudgingly Yes Newcastle - Yes Chelsea/Manure... narduch, Obinna and jhoops__ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borjans Sweatpants Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, frmr said: Link? Couldnt find anything in BBC, but found these: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-transfer-news-jonathan-david-lille-b1131126.html https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jonathan-david-man-utd-transfer-28413180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, Borjans Sweatpants said: Couldnt find anything in BBC, but found these: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-transfer-news-jonathan-david-lille-b1131126.html https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jonathan-david-man-utd-transfer-28413180 Yeah I saw those, no mention of an actual bid though, just reports of interest and a bit of a clickbaity title. I'd be very surprised if United put in a bid. jhoops__, Borjans Sweatpants, BearcatSA and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 hours ago, narduch said: He was promoting his old YouTube channel again on Twitter. Sure, but he immediately explains in the video that his absence was due to a crazy year personally, and he thanks OneSoccer for being understanding. That doesn't indicate to me that he's parted ways with OS unless I'm missing something narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 https://theathletic.com/5195525/2024/01/11/liverpool-contract-news-arsenal-jonathan-david/ johnyb, jhoops__, Borjans Sweatpants and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I prefer a summer move as opposed to a winter one for David, especially if it is a significant step. Give him the chance to spend preseason with the team and get acclimated as opposed to just being thrown in the fire. Obinna, Corazon, MauditYvon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/10/2024 at 7:35 AM, toontownman said: Arsenal - Yes Spurs - Yes Villa - Begrudgingly Yes Newcastle - Yes Chelsea/Manure... At this point Anywhere - Yes This feels like it's dragged on forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Starting v Lorient. It's on BeIn and Fubo DeRo_Is_King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Djalo sold to Juve for €3.5. Another Lillois out the door. Can we all pitch a few bucks to buy him out of his contract? Corazon, Jack1997, narduch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) I can’t watch, but anyone watching- what formation are they using? JD and Yacizi are starting along with Gomes up front. Is Yacizi being deployed as an AM or are they doing 2 strikers? Futmob says David is being deployed as an LW, but not sure. Edited January 14 by InglewoodJack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: I can’t watch, but anyone watching- what formation are they using? JD and Yacizi are starting along with Gomes up front. Is Yacizi being deployed as an AM or are they doing 2 strikers? Futmob says David is being deployed as an LW, but not sure. Lone striker InglewoodJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just scored a header Canuckia, Corazon, Kadenge and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1973 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, narduch said: Just scored a header Was a beautiful header! What you like to see from a 9 Corazon, johnyb, Canuckia and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckia Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 "it's a goal for the Birthday boy!" narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 That’s 7 goals in his last 8 games. Or more accurately, he’s scored in 5 of his last 8. Quietly heating up. 6 or his last 10 if you count national team. lowlander, dyslexic nam, Canuckia and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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