dyslexic nam Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, jhoops__ said: Not sure if Lille offered him a new contract but they’d be smart to do so. I think the player wants a move more than the club perhaps. They’re selling Baleba which makes a David move unnecessary financially. If I am David and angling for a move I wouldn’t sign any new contract unless it was a substantial increase in wages. Lille have blocked potential moves for the last 2 transfer seasons with their high asking price and re-upping with a new contract just hands them back all the leverage they need to continue doing that in the future. If he just continues on with his existing contract he is almost assured of a move next summer since they wouldn’t want to lose him on a free a year after that - and next summer he would be in a position to negotiate higher wages with a new clubs since they would presumably be getting a break on the transfer fee (compared to this year’s asking price). All this assumes his value doesn’t plummet due to a crap season, but he has consistently performed so no reason to think he won’t have another good one. Watchmen, johnyb, RJB and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Baleba is a physical beast but he’s so raw and not sure he has a great feel for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said: If I am David and angling for a move I wouldn’t sign any new contract unless it was a substantial increase in wages. Lille have blocked potential moves for the last 2 transfer seasons with their high asking price and re-upping with a new contract just hands them back all the leverage they need to continue doing that in the future. If he just continues on with his existing contract he is almost assured of a move next summer since they wouldn’t want to lose him on a free a year after that - and next summer he would be in a position to negotiate higher wages with a new clubs since they would presumably be getting a break on the transfer fee (compared to this year’s asking price). All this assumes his value doesn’t plummet due to a crap season, but he has consistently performed so no reason to think he won’t have another good one. I mean David supposedly rejected an offer from a SA team that would have paid him gazillions, so yes he shouldn't extend. Lille's position re David is perplexing. They are a selling team historically re young/ high talent players and could simply reload & buy another young player with David's transfer proceeds. Downward risk increases with time. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 The fans… they call for David https://x.com/nocontextfooty/status/1695430876400644257?s=46&t=spIaqlQfufAO3HreB1455Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, InglewoodJack said: The fans… they call for David https://x.com/nocontextfooty/status/1695430876400644257?s=46&t=spIaqlQfufAO3HreB1455Q Imagine winning 2-0 and having a 4.9 rating lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Starting v Lorient lamptern, DeRo_Is_King and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Lille’s defence looking rock solid so far…. WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Well, guess JD is gonna need an all time performance today… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Double sub before half. Should have been one of the centre backs on yellows. Though the Icelandic kid who looked good in preseason has not in real play. Edited August 27, 2023 by WestHamCanadianinOxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Nice goal by JD! Kadenge, johnyb, Obinna and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Goal back from... guess who. DeRo_Is_King and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 The goal https://x.com/beinsportsusa/status/1695834442621678021?s=46&t=KtwBDROwUH8sPUlYu2GlIA A.D.I.D.A.S., narduch, maccaliam and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 8:44 AM, Kadenge said: They are a selling team historically re young/ high talent players and could simply reload & buy another young player with David's transfer proceeds. Downward risk increases with time. To be fair, for their big sales at least, they get market value or (often )well above most of the time. Pepe, Osimen, Botman Onana, Leao, now Baleba all sold for at least decently above what they were worth at the time. *Not going to be bullied into a cut rate sale, this year. Overall it has worked for them, I guess. *Unless they keep playing like this maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Lille are just getting spanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DeRo_Is_King said: Lille are just getting spanked. Umititi can not be fit because they need centre back help. But what is the point of him on the bench then. Edited August 27, 2023 by WestHamCanadianinOxford DeRo_Is_King and jhoops__ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) On 8/26/2023 at 9:25 AM, dyslexic nam said: Lille have blocked potential moves for the last 2 transfer seasons with their high asking price and re-upping with a new contract just hands them back all the leverage they need to continue doing that in the future. If he just continues on with his existing contract he is almost assured of a move next summer since they wouldn’t want to lose him on a free a year after that - and next summer he would be in a position to negotiate higher wages with a new clubs since they would presumably be getting a break on the transfer fee (compared to this year’s asking price). I am not sure if you are aware of this but the player gets to keep a portion of the transfer fee. It is and has always been in the players interest (just as with the selling club) to maximize the value of the sale. Edited August 28, 2023 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Free kick said: I am not sure if you are aware of this but the player gets to keep a portion of the transfer fee. It is and has always been in the players interest (just as with the selling club) to maximize the value of the sale. Are you sure about that? I don’t believe that is usually the case. My understanding (which I admit could be wrong) is a player may ask for part of or all of bonuses he would have been paid in the next year of his contract if he leaves from the old club, and he would usually get a signing on fee with the new club for signing a contract. I’ve also heard of players asking for a percentage of their contract paid up if transferring to a club where they will earn a lower salary. Rarely have I heard of a player getting a chunk of the transfer fee though. Edited August 28, 2023 by maccaliam Spelling Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) @maccaliam you are Partially correct. It all depends on the contracts and the negotiations between the clubs and the agent of the player. In general, it is less likely to see the player getting a percentage of the transfer fee. The agents are the ones that usually get a percentage from the transfer fee. But this does not mean that the players can’t get any money from the transfer fee What Percentage Of A Transfer Fee Goes To The Player? - Pro Football Lounge Edited August 28, 2023 by Free kick Ruffian and maccaliam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawafan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Great play around. The pass, the off the ball run and the right touch on at the right moment in the ball to slot it in. jhoops__ and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Apparently just scored to put Lille back up 3-2 on aggregate in their Europa conference league qualification match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, dyslexic nam said: Apparently just scored to put Lille back up 3-2 on aggregate in their Europa conference league qualification match. Offside decision takes away a rare Jonny David headed goal. Rijeka have been tuning Lille all 2nd half johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, El Diego said: Offside decision takes away a rare Jonny David headed goal. Rijeka have been tuning Lille all 2nd half The bits I have seen, Lille have not looked great a lot of this young season. Maybe it was Bamba holding them together all along😉. The Beaver 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: The bits I have seen, Lille have not looked great a lot of this young season. Maybe it was Bamba holding them together all along😉. Lol. Tbf they've looked a lot better since going down WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 David with the extra time goal! Surely the winner. jhoops__, johnyb, WestHamCanadianinOxford and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Rebound off the post into an open net. Came at him fast, harder than it looked I think jhoops__, WestHamCanadianinOxford and johnyb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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