Watchmen Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think the unfortunate thing here is the timing. Copa qualifying/NL games in November. I'm not expecting Biello to change much, but some consistency through that would have been nice, especially since there's only the 1 friendly so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, trc2014 said: A bit scared Herdman didnt bring Biello with him but brought everyone else. Makes me question what he thinks about his coaching. Good chance with the mess the CSA is now that interim becomes a permanent hire. Biello surely knew he'd get interim. It's a good deal and test for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, blueseeka said: I think we are kidding ourselves, if we believe there will be any real budget for a decent coach. CSA skipped booking a game in the September window. There is no budget. The rumor had been Forge's coach, if he stepped down They literally have the amount they were spending on Herdman, who had just re-upped his contract. Now they can either use that budget to try and find a better tactician, or save some money and maybe support the program in other areas (either with more youth camps or by meeting the players wage demands). The interesting thing for me will be if the players use this to push for more $$$, knowing full well that it would handcuff the CSA in terms of the calibre of coach they can recruit. jhoops__, The Real Marc and Stryker911 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Congrats, @SpecialK. I hope the new coach is tall enough for your liking. johnyb, Kent, jhoops__ and 11 others 5 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, trc2014 said: A bit scared Herdman didnt bring Biello with him but brought everyone else. Makes me question what he thinks about his coaching. Good chance with the mess the CSA is now that interim becomes a permanent hire. Biello is more of a CSA-guy than a Herdman-guy. He may have seen the chance to step out of his shadow and make the next big step. I wouldn’t read anything into that. Cheeta, The Real Marc, trc2014 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, VinceA said: We made a Men's WC for the first time in decades and we seem worse off. Seem to be, from a hardcore fan perspective. Realistically, the unionizing of the players, the gender equity, the labor deals all of this off the field stuff needed to happen eventually and success on the field pushed this stuff to the forefront. And its messy, a lot of it has already happened at bigger soccer nations..we are just catching up. CSA needed to grow to meet the demands of the better national teams, it all wasnt goign to happen without growing pains, Just like it took awhile for the MLS clubs to move the CMNT needle, CPL will eventually as well. This round of world class talent and recent on field success will help create the interest/investemnt and momentum to push the program forward if we dont fuck it up. Its not about one guy, one miracle worker. We have players now all over top leagues, winning trophies and bringing that confidence/experience back to the national team camps, passing it on to younger players. This was all happening before Herman came over, and it should continue on after he is gone. He did a good job motivating and helping to instill belief in the players and together they pushed us further and quicker than we all dreamed off. So now go cash the big cheques at TFC, see if they will still buy the "die for the shirt" routine after seeing how it ended with CMNT. jhoops__, johnyb and lamptern 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) The sky is falling, the sky is falling This will be a good thing Edited August 28, 2023 by SpursFlu nfitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Interesting that De Vos thanks these folks: “I would like to thank Simon, Eric, Alex and Cesar for their immense contributions to the game in Canada,” said Jason deVos, interim General Secretary. “Having worked closely with these individuals behind the scenes, I have experienced first-hand the value they have brought to Canada Soccer. I want to thank them for the countless hours they have given to Canada Soccer and wish them all the best in their new endeavors.” but not Herdman who instead is thanked by Crooks. Probably another accidental public relations gaffe on his part rather than an intentional slur, but who knows. https://canadasoccer.com/news/john-herdman-departs-canada-soccer-mens-national-team/ YorkRegionFan and nolando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasi Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 We have no money, but we are able to dangle a world cup and coppa appearances. We might be able to attract a decent up and coming candidate. 3 years is not much for someone good to use as as a stepping stone. Stryker911, costarg, Approve My Account Pls and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The benefit for young Cdn players is that JH will revamp the academy/ development process at TFC. He is meticulous with details and I'm sure he aready has a blueprint for the academy. bwilly11, trc2014, Approve My Account Pls and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 According to the TFC press release, Tenllado and the others aren't necessarily coming over with Herdman, as it says that "Herdman’s coaching staff will be announced at a later date." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) As someone with a soft spot for TFC, I’m happy. But as someone who is a fan of the national team, I’m very happy. My biggest concern is if the CSA hiring committee is smart enough to sort out a decent gaffer from the vultures and hacks who want an easy in to coaching at a World Cup. Edited August 28, 2023 by Califax jonovision, Bertuzzi44 and gator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Next man up I say! “Yes, there would be a national team [I'd be interested in managing], but now it’s premature. Certainly not for this World Cup. World Cup 2026, why not? Could be. Canada? I’d love to, sure. Canada did very well." - Carlo Ancelotti jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 CSA press release August 2024 "after an exhaustive international and domestic search over the past 12 months, we are pleased to announce that Mauro Biello has been appointed as head coach for the CMNT to 2026." narduch, Stryker911, Cheeta and 15 others 6 1 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kadenge said: CSA press release August 2024 "after an exhaustive international and domestic search over the past 12 months, we are pleased to announce that Mauro Biello has been appointed as head coach for the CMNT to 2026." Wonder what Stephen Hart is up to these days? The CSA could probably afford his services and he has lots of experience. Nah, should maybe stop with the satire before we give them any ideas. Marc dos Santos would be my more serious bad hire that might actually happen suggestion. Until the CSB thing gets sorted it's going to be difficult to attract any strong candidates. SoccMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: They literally have the amount they were spending on Herdman, who had just re-upped his contract. Now they can either use that budget to try and find a better tactician, or save some money and maybe support the program in other areas (either with more youth camps or by meeting the players wage demands). The interesting thing for me will be if the players use this to push for more $$$, knowing full well that it would handcuff the CSA in terms of the calibre of coach they can recruit. If the players use this to push for more money, they are quite dense. Herdmans on around 750k (no real reference for this but I think thats been said on this site). Hire another coach for 500k which is quite the reduction. 250k left over. Thats 5k a player assuming 25 men and 25 women are fighting for this pot. If the players are fighting for only 5k, we have some serious issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Interesting that De Vos thanks these folks: “I would like to thank Simon, Eric, Alex and Cesar for their immense contributions to the game in Canada,” said Jason deVos, interim General Secretary. “Having worked closely with these individuals behind the scenes, I have experienced first-hand the value they have brought to Canada Soccer. I want to thank them for the countless hours they have given to Canada Soccer and wish them all the best in their new endeavors.” but not Herdman who instead is thanked by Crooks. Probably another accidental public relations gaffe on his part rather than an intentional slur, but who knows. https://canadasoccer.com/news/john-herdman-departs-canada-soccer-mens-national-team/ It's just the way the press release is written, I'd think. It means nothing. And besides - isn't Crooks the senior? Wouldn't be surprised if it was De Vos thanking Herdman but Crooks thanking the other departees. An Observer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Interesting that De Vos thanks these folks: “I would like to thank Simon, Eric, Alex and Cesar for their immense contributions to the game in Canada,” said Jason deVos, interim General Secretary. “Having worked closely with these individuals behind the scenes, I have experienced first-hand the value they have brought to Canada Soccer. I want to thank them for the countless hours they have given to Canada Soccer and wish them all the best in their new endeavors.” but not Herdman who instead is thanked by Crooks. Probably another accidental public relations gaffe on his part rather than an intentional slur, but who knows. https://canadasoccer.com/news/john-herdman-departs-canada-soccer-mens-national-team/ If Crooks is head of the CSA over DeVos, then I would have expected her to thank the head coach. I don't think there is anything to read into here. narduch, Bison44, Watchmen and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: The sky is falling, the sky is falling This will be a good thing ...except there's a very good chance that it will be a bad thing. ...and literally nobody is treating this as if the sky is falling—just that in the current state of Canada Soccer, most (reasonable) people do not have much confidence that they will be able to afford or attract a better replacement. Other than those two small points, your post is bang on. Cheeta and Floortom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bigandy said: If the players use this to push for more money, they are quite dense. Herdmans on around 750k (no real reference for this but I think thats been said on this site). Hire another coach for 500k which is quite the reduction. 250k left over. Thats 5k a player assuming 25 men and 25 women are fighting for this pot. If the players are fighting for only 5k, we have some serious issues. I think $465k is the figure that’s been mentioned. Bigandy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, Vasi said: We have no money, but we are able to dangle a world cup and coppa appearances. We might be able to attract a decent up and coming candidate. 3 years is not much for someone good to use as as a stepping stone. I don't know. That almost seems like the perfect amount of time. A major tournament (the Copa) where expectations will be low, followed by the high profile job of a host team with a number of blue chip players. After that, if they've done well they can get a bigger pay day elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: I think $465k is the figure that’s been mentioned. Thanks! That makes it even less likely the players are going to use that as leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxtefer Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Reports were that Herdman was on €480,000 at the world cup (~$700K CAD). Then the NZ rumors happened, so I assume that he got a raise earlier in 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Should rename the thread "Thank You John Herdman" frmr and Vasi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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