toontownman Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 hours ago, VinceA said: Who would even replace Herdman. This job must not be very enticing right now. Realistically It would be someone like Wheeldon jr or Smyrniotis who would be willing to come in. I can't even think of a big time Canadian coach right now. Maybe Marcina? Where for art thou Robert?? It's time. Johannes Nicolaas van 't Schip is finally coming home. MtlMario, Obinna and kacbru 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Atlantic said: Alen Marcina (San Antonio) Frank Yallop (Monterrey Bay) Kevin McKenna (Assistant @ FC Köln) Michael Kim (Assistant @ South Korea NT) Outside of Marcina I’m not fond of making any of those guys the coach of the CanMNT. I wouldn’t mind going rouge and getting a younger coach from Europe but we are broke so that’s likely off the table Smyrniotos? Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I feel like Smyrniotos is the guy TFC needs, but will never be the guy TFC hire. Toronto is so rich in terms of soccer talent. And who better to tap into the local market than him? But alas, they'll go on now and hire some random American. The guy(s) running things at the top are the problem, not the coaching. They want to be LA Galaxy North - then tried to be NYRB North - then pivoted back to being LA Galaxy North again...except much worse. If it wasn't for the Bez era this club would have an embaressing history. king1010, narduch, YorkRegionFan and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Atlantic said: Alen Marcina (San Antonio) Frank Yallop (Monterrey Bay) Kevin McKenna (Assistant @ FC Köln) Michael Kim (Assistant @ South Korea NT) Outside of Marcina I’m not fond of making any of those guys the coach of the CanMNT. I wouldn’t mind going rouge and getting a younger coach from Europe but we are broke so that’s likely off the table You know that it would be Mauro Biello for at least a year or until a new search selects another coach in a year or two. I would not mind an experienced Mexican coach or an accomplished coach from another Concacaf country in the event Herdman resigns. costarg, narduch and PastPros 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stoppage Time said: You know that it would be Mauro Biello for at least a year or until a new search selects another coach in a year or two. I would not mind an experienced Mexican coach or an accomplished coach from another Concacaf country in the event Herdman resigns. Thomas Christiansen would be a great hire IMO but honestly why would he leave what he's building with Panama? Kadenge, Bertuzzi44, DeRo_Is_King and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Obinna said: But alas, they'll go on now and hire some random American. Seems like it. Right? However, it'll be either a Euro, a Latin American, or a Cancon type, in that order. They went all-in Phil Mickelson style on an American, a very high profile one at that, so I don't think that will be happening this time around. Edited August 15, 2023 by BearcatSA Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Atlantic said: Thomas Christiansen would be a great hire IMO but honestly why would he leave what he's building with Panama? I can think of a few rea$on$. gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrR Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 hours ago, VinceA said: Who would even replace Herdman. This job must not be very enticing right now. 1) John van 'Schip 2) Dwight Lodeweges Both are available. Both have experience. Both were born in Canada, toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If Herdmann goes , Would love to see Herve Renard as our manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Atlantic said: Alen Marcina (San Antonio) Frank Yallop (Monterrey Bay) Kevin McKenna (Assistant @ FC Köln) Michael Kim (Assistant @ South Korea NT) Outside of Marcina I’m not fond of making any of those guys the coach of the CanMNT. I wouldn’t mind going rouge and getting a younger coach from Europe but we are broke so that’s likely off the table If we're talking CMNT alumni, I wonder if Jim Brennan would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Considering our budget situation, it is more likely to be Dale Mitchell or Bobbie Lenarduzzi if its an ex alum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 13 hours ago, Atlantic said: Thomas Christiansen would be a great hire IMO but honestly why would he leave what he's building with Panama? This would be my #1 choice. He's done an amazing job with Panama, but we co-host & have a WC spot locked up in 2026. Plus the CMNT has way more high end talent vs Panama. If he can get Panama to perform the way they have over the last yr, think what he could do with this Cdn squad. I'm sure he's not getting paid anywhere close to what JH makes. gator, DeRo_Is_King, king1010 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Get the players to self-manage as they seem to be highly effective and strategic decision makers. El Hombre, king1010, PastPros and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If England win the WWC, Manning will make overtures to Sarina Wiegman. Free kick, WestHamCanadianinOxford and narduch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: If England win the WWC, Manning will make overtures to Sarina Wiegman. Or Herdman could move and she could replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Herdman to TFC - Smyrniotis to the NT. Stryker911 and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Ansem said: Herdman to TFC - Smyrniotis to the NT. I don't think Smyrniotis is the right fit for the NT. He doesn't have any international experience, aside from Champions League games in CONCACAF with Forge. I think he should stay in the club game for now, be it CanPL, MLS, or elsewhere. If we actually had a functioning youth program I would suggest Smyrniotis for a coaching role, however. That would be a good way to get into the international game. Speaking of Herdman doing dual duty with Canada and TFC (not going to happen, btw), I think this could be something a CPL coach could manage. Smyrniotis would obviously be top of the list. I would trust him with an U-20 Canada squad, for instance. That preps him for international football and maybe to take the reigns of the Senior national team down the road. Kadenge, WestHamCanadianinOxford, king1010 and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Obinna said: I don't think Smyrniotis is the right fit for the NT. He doesn't have any international experience, aside from Champions League games in CONCACAF with Forge. I think he should stay in the club game for now, be it CanPL, MLS, or elsewhere. If we actually had a functioning youth program I would suggest Smyrniotis for a coaching role, however. That would be a good way to get into the international game. Speaking of Herdman doing dual duty with Canada and TFC (not going to happen, btw), I think this could be something a CPL coach could manage. Smyrniotis would obviously be top of the list. I would trust him with an U-20 Canada squad, for instance. That preps him for international football and maybe to take the reigns of the Senior national team down the road. Yup. 3 yrs to go to WC 2026 and the first time co-hosting the Mens WC in Canada. There is no time to experiment. JH is no guru re tactical proficiency but at this stage continuity is more important given the state of affairs at the CSA and the issue with the players. Obinna, Free kick, TOcanadafan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Bev Priestman would be a natural replacement. 😉 Cheeta and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badname22 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I mean, Michael Findlay does have experience in CONCACAF with Grenada so….. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, badname22 said: I mean, Michael Findlay does have experience in CONCACAF with Grenada so….. /s I remember my favourite part of Floro's tenure was when Findlay took charge of the game against Ghana (That featured the return of Cavallini, and the debuts of Froese, Trafford and Hoilett) and we looked better than anything Floro had put on display in the two years prior. edit: Also the highlight of that game was Marcel de Jong being like "fuck it I'm gonna score" and scored one of the best goals I've ever seen a Canadian score in an international match. Edited August 16, 2023 by VinceA johnyb, narduch, trc2014 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Kadenge said: Yup. 3 yrs to go to WC 2026 and the first time co-hosting the Mens WC in Canada. There is no time to experiment. JH is no guru re tactical proficiency but at this stage continuity is more important given the state of affairs at the CSA and the issue with the players. I would argue that JH has some tactical proficiencys that get overlooked. All throughout qualifying, we defied stats like xP goals for and against. Is it luck that we were consistently outperforming the expected stats, or is it more likely that we created our own luck by maximizing our strengths and minimizing our weaknesses. Look at how our terrible lack of quality defenders was actually a strength during qualifying. Everyone always says JH is clueless because he didnt go with 3 cm vs croatia. It implies we lost due to his formation. Thats such a false narrative. We lost because they were so much better. You can also say that his choice to not go with 3 cm was injury/fitness dependent. Its not JH fault he had no CM to choose from. So besides not picking 3 cm for croatia, I dont see an example of a weak tactical performance. I do see a few examples of good tactical performances such as away vs mexico and usa. h coach and Ruffian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 hours ago, grigorio said: Get the players to self-manage as they seem to be highly effective and strategic decision makers. Especially when it comes to penalty takers. Very pragmatic 😶 grigorio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Kloke was on Fan590 in TO talking about Herdman and TFC. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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