Free kick Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Also, Why is it written in stone that we must lose in Honduras? Or playing in Honduras is an expected loss? Or, why is it written in stone that we should not expect a result playing in Azteca? In the past eight weeks TFC has gone into Mexico three times and got the results pretty much that they needed. And playing against many of the same players that our MNT would face. The Montreal Impact have in the past also gone into Azteca and earned a draw. And they gotten other favourable results in central america facing the same kind of talent that crops up in Concacaf WCQ. These are high profile competitions. They faced the same obstacles the MNT faced. TFC has a stronger case to to blame the schedule and format for the outcome in CCl than our MNT has for not qualifying. Also Australia went into Honduras for a WCQ and faced the same conditions we did (ie.: mid day game in heat and humidity). Plus they had to travel ten times the distance. They managed a 0-0 draw and finished it off easily in the home leg. Why cant we manage the same in what is seemingly and endless cycle after cycle where we face Honduras? The answer is because TFC, the Impact and australia did on the pitch. And they all had the kind players on the pitch to do it. Edited May 8, 2018 by Free kick CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE and Red and White 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion26 Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Thought I share this CSA annual meeting North Star Rising... Maybe they discussed adding more games for all levels for international games... After reading through this article and what got me the most was CMNT in 2017 only played a total of 9 games. In my opinion that's to low of a number. I mean overall all level teams for Canada did not have many games. I am not sure the total yearly amount of games that's possible to play, but 9 is just crazy. We are 5 months into 2018 and I believe 1 game has been played by CMNT... well DAMN!!! Also I feel like CSA are really working for 2026 WC and aren't really communicating about making it in 2022. I feel if Canada does make it in 2022 would be much more beneficial to the program compared to hosting as I feel Canada might get overshadowed by it's southern sisters USA/Mexico. Edited May 8, 2018 by Scorpion26 Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Scorpion26 said: Thought I share this CSA annual meeting North Star Rising... Maybe they discussed adding more games for all levels for international games... After reading through this article and what got me the most was CMNT in 2017 only played a total of 9 games. In my opinion that's to low of a number. I mean overall all level teams for Canada did not have many games. I am not sure the total yearly amount of games that's possible to play, but 9 is just crazy. We are 5 months into 2018 and I believe 1 game has been played by CMNT... well DAMN!!! Also I feel like CSA are really working for 2026 WC and aren't really communicating about making it in 2022. I feel if Canada does make it in 2022 would be much more beneficial to the program compared to hosting as I feel Canada might get overshadowed by it's southern sisters USA/Mexico. This, this, this. Reason why I'm one of the few who aren't crazy about the bid. I also haven't been able to find any mention of a guaranteed spot, and I wouldnt be of the wrong mind to think that we would be the first country to "host" without the team in the tournament. All in all, the time is now and we're sure not acting like it. SpecialK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 2018-05-07 at 7:02 PM, Free kick said: Also, Why is it written in stone that we must lose in Honduras? Or playing in Honduras is an expected loss? Or, why is it written in stone that we should not expect a result playing in Azteca? In the past eight weeks TFC has gone into Mexico three times and got the results pretty much that they needed. And playing against many of the same players that our MNT would face. The Montreal Impact have in the past also gone into Azteca and earned a draw. And they gotten other favourable results in central america facing the same kind of talent that crops up in Concacaf WCQ. These are high profile competitions. They faced the same obstacles the MNT faced. TFC has a stronger case to to blame the schedule and format for the outcome in CCl than our MNT has for not qualifying. Also Australia went into Honduras for a WCQ and faced the same conditions we did (ie.: mid day game in heat and humidity). Plus they had to travel ten times the distance. They managed a 0-0 draw and finished it off easily in the home leg. Why cant we manage the same in what is seemingly and endless cycle after cycle where we face Honduras? The answer is because TFC, the Impact and australia did on the pitch. And they all had the kind players on the pitch to do it. Yes, lets follow the TFC example. Canada can qualify if they can highly pay Italians and Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, DoyleG said: Yes, lets follow the TFC example. Canada can qualify if they can highly pay Italians and Americans. Thought that was questionable too.... My reality is that TFC is far better than the CMNT, so comparing the two is very egregious. I would love to see Canada try to play a 352 at the start of the CNL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Thought that was questionable too.... My reality is that TFC is far better than the CMNT, so comparing the two is very egregious. I would love to see Canada try to play a 352 at the start of the CNL. I don't see where Hoilett or Davies play in a 3-5-2. The formation uses wingbacks which I don't think is an ideal position for either and I'm not sold on either as a #10 in the formation especially since Canada doesn't really play with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 -----------Larin---------Cavs----- ----------Arfield-------Hoilett---- --------------------Piette------------- Davies---------------------------Hutch --------Vitoria--Jako--James----- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Vince193 said: I don't see where Hoilett or Davies play in a 3-5-2. The formation uses wingbacks which I don't think is an ideal position for either and I'm not sold on either as a #10 in the formation especially since Canada doesn't really play with one. Call it a 3-5-2 or 3-6-1 whatever way you want to interpret it. Osorio, Arfield, and Hutchinson form the middle engine, with Piette and Kaye as available options. Familiar positions for all. Cavallini in the true number 9 position, with Larin available. Hoilett in as a second striker, with freedom to roam. Davies in the LWB as his skillset is dangerous in 1v1 situations. UFG is "Up for Grabs" whether it be Petrasso, Cordova, Godinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer.shocker Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I like Vitoria but am not convinced we are gonna see much more of him for MNT into 2019 and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yea the CBs are pretty much a "UFG" position. For me based on past results, it comes down to who's playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Well apparently the CSA does know how to be transparent after all...it's only with the men's NT that we can select and hire without any process. https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/994580683250196483 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, BCM1555362349 said: Well apparently the CSA does know how to be transparent after all...it's only with the men's NT that we can select and hire without any process. https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/994580683250196483 From the applicatin sheet "A strong understanding of Sport Science and Soccer specific periodization" I guess we know who conjured up this application process... SpecialK, Gian-Luca and johnyb 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 What a JOKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Jith12 said: From the applicatin sheet "A strong understanding of Sport Science and Soccer specific periodization" I guess we know who conjured up this application process... 3 minutes ago, SpecialK said: What a JOKE! You should look up what it is. It’s a training approach that has been used for years and is employed by many successful clubs. Kent, Zem and CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: You should look up what it is. It’s a training approach that has been used for years and is employed by many successful clubs. People literally could have just googled "periodization" this whole time, the first thing that comes up is a Wikipedia article that explains the whole concept in detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_periodization But I guess they're just running out of ways to take meaningless shots at Herdman for no apparent reason. grande, Kent, Ruffian and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: You should look up what it is. It’s a training approach that has been used for years and is employed by many successful clubs. Buzz the CSA is a national sports Association. Your telling me it’s ok to try to find talented people on Twitter ?? I’m all for transparency and it needs to happen more, but Twitter ??? Come on ! Do you see hockey Canada, basketball Canada etc do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zem said: People literally could have just googled "periodization" this whole time, the first thing that comes up is a Wikipedia article that explains the whole concept in detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_periodization But I guess they're just running out of ways to take meaningless shots at Herdman for no apparent reason. I had absolutely no intention to take a shot at Herdman, or anyone else for that matter. I have an incredible amount of respect for him and his methods, he's helped the women's program to two Olymipic medals in two Games. Periodization makes sense and is a great strategy, just maybe not the most well known. If it came across like I was "taking a shot at Herdman" that was certainly not my intention. Zem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Buzz the CSA is a national sports Association. Your telling me it’s ok to try to find talented people on Twitter ?? I’m all for transparency and it needs to happen more, but Twitter ??? Come on ! Do you see hockey Canada, basketball Canada etc do this? Organizations post job vacancies on social media all the time, it’s very common practice. You’re really grasping at straws. CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Jith12 said: I had absolutely no intention to take a shot at Herdman, or anyone else for that matter. I have an incredible amount of respect for him and his methods, he's helped the women's program to two Olymipic medals in two Games. Periodization makes sense and is a great strategy, just maybe not the most well known. If it came across like I was "taking a shot at Herdman" that was certainly not my intention. No worries, my comment was probably more harsh than it needed to be; apologies for that. Just pent-up frustration I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: Organizations post job vacancies on social media all the time, it’s very common practice. You’re really grasping at straws. You find me a job posting similar to that job from a national sports body like hockey Canada or basketball Canada or the FA etc on twitter and I’ll take back what I said and eat humble pie. Edited May 10, 2018 by SpecialK CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 National sports bodies should be top notch , the best of the best, the best staff , the best coaches , the best players, the best programs and facilities so they can go out and represent this country against the worlds best. To me trying to find staff on Twitter is amateur and looks bad. But hey what hell do I know I'm just fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SpecialK said: You find me a job posting similar to that job from a national sports body like hockey Canada or basketball Canada or the FA etc on twitter and I’ll take back what I said and eat humble pie. So you’re comparing Hockey Canada and the FA to the CSA? This flies in the face of your own anti CSA narrative? Wouldn’t you want the widest reach possible to find the best candidate for the job? Edit: to further add to this, you complain incessantly about how the CSA needs to be better and more progressive yet you expect them to be exactly like other associations? The FA hasn’t been successful at anything in a generation so maybe you should chose better association. Edited May 10, 2018 by BuzzAndSting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, SpecialK said: National sports bodies should be top notch , the best of the best, the best staff , the best coaches , the best players, the best programs and facilities so they can go out and represent this country against the worlds best. To me trying to find staff on Twitter is amateur and looks bad. But hey what hell do I know I'm just fan. I highly doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: So you’re comparing Hockey Canada and the FA to the CSA? This flies in the face of your own anti CSA narrative? Wouldn’t you want the widest reach possible to find the best candidate for the job? Edit: to further add to this, you complain incessantly about how the CSA needs to be better and more progressive yet you expect them to be exactly like other associations? The FA hasn’t been successful at anything in a generation so maybe you should chose better association. Yes I am comparing them , why because they national sports body just like the CSA. The FA makes a shit ton of money and England qualifies for world cups, they must be doing something right. Why do you agree with everything the CSA does? And don't say you don't because you do. Ya I do bitch on the CSA alot but when they do something good I give them props. If the CSA announced Reed is leaving and Ralph Kurger was taking over and john van't schip or Dwight Lodeweges or even Marc Dos Santos was taking over the men's team and a bunch a friendlies were book, man I would buy a huge billboard and put on it Well done CSA! Time to kick some ass ! Giddyup ! Oh I am fan. I love Canada soccer, I was at the game in New Jersey, I bought tickets for the MTL game but couldn't make it because of work. I got my Arfield Jeresy and I wear it with pride. I was planning a trip to Brazil if they got into Copa America. I'm a huge fan thank you very much, don't need to doubt buzz, I just don't have my noise up the CSA ass like you do. Love ya though buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 57 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Yes I am comparing them , why because they national sports body just like the CSA. The FA makes a shit ton of money and England qualifies for world cups, they must be doing something right. That's like comparing a Ferrari and a Ford, they're both cars so they must be the same. If you don't see the difference please see my previous comments about you being a child. 57 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Why do you agree with everything the CSA does? And don't say you don't because you do. Ya I do bitch on the CSA alot but when they do something good I give them props. I don't. You've asked me this before and I've answered before. 59 minutes ago, SpecialK said: If the CSA announced Reed is leaving and Ralph Kurger was taking over and john van't schip or Dwight Lodeweges or even Marc Dos Santos was taking over the men's team and a bunch a friendlies were book, man I would buy a huge billboard and put on it Well done CSA! Time to kick some ass ! Giddyup ! Marc Dos Santos would make sense except he's said before he doesn't feel he's ready. As for the others they're not even close to sure things and yet you continue to trot out the same few names that you know. 1 hour ago, SpecialK said: Oh I am fan. I love Canada soccer, I was at the game in New Jersey, I bought tickets for the MTL game but couldn't make it because of work. I got my Arfield Jeresy and I wear it with pride. I was planning a trip to Brazil if they got into Copa America. I'm a huge fan thank you very much, don't need to doubt buzz, I just don't have my noise up the CSA ass like you do. Love ya though buzz. If you are a fan than why don't you just enjoy it? You constantly bitch and complain, how is it even worth it for you? What do you get out of this other than the apparent constant frustration? Please see previous comments about being a troll. Interesting that you don't actually address what I wrote about your narrative. Do you want the best possible candidate for this job? How would the CSA reach more candidates to increase their chances at finding the most qualified candidate, through their Career page on their website? Through job websites? By posting to social media? And as far as your insults please see my previous comments about being a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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