sebdeserio Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack1997 said: Good point didn’t even notice that, there’s no reason ZBG and Petrasso should be there over Sigur and Farsi. Maybe Farsi isn't interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 If Farsi isn’t interested and Abzi really is leaning Morocco, you add Bounou in there too, and man… it’s looking like it was a stroke of genius for us to cap tie Kone. Those Montreal boys are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Notable omissions are Farsi or Abzi makes me think they are exploring their options with Algeria and Morocco respectfully. We need to know why they weren’t included. ….IF they turned down the call….then fuck em. Edited May 19, 2023 by Shway toontownman, Obinna, Corazon and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Seems like the Maghreb is a tough battleground for dual nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Gutted Farsi is not on there. Didn't expect Abzi to be or Sigur. To use the cliche bingo card "I bet the CSA doesn't even know about him". Also fair to say its not long after the Nations league there could be places for people like Jebbison, Farsi etc in the Gold Cup. Edited May 19, 2023 by toontownman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Should note we left 7 spots unused. US list has 60 names. Kadenge and Strait Red 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 If you check Abzi’s twitter (it’s social media so whatever) all his likes are Morocco NT related. He’s not a lock for them by any means, but Morocco cycles their squad heavily and they call in guys from some smaller leagues, so that window is very much open to him. Farsi… I don’t get if it’s really an Algeria thing. We have a better team, we’ve made a more recent World Cup, we’re hosting the next one, he’s played his career in North America, you would think all these factors would sway him towards us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: If you check Abzi’s twitter (it’s social media so whatever) all his likes are Morocco NT related. He’s not a lock for them by any means, but Morocco cycles their squad heavily and they call in guys from some smaller leagues, so that window is very much open to him. Farsi… I don’t get if it’s really an Algeria thing. We have a better team, we’ve made a more recent World Cup, we’re hosting the next one, he’s played his career in North America, you would think all these factors would sway him towards us. But is it better to play for a country that you might be able to get a look in versus one where you’d have little chance of playing for? That might be Farsi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just now, JamboAl said: But is it better to play for a country that you might be able to get a look in versus one where you’d have little chance of playing for? That might be Farsi. I don’t know what Algeria’s depth chart looks like, but quick glance looks like most of their players play in strong European leagues, so I don’t think he necessarily has an easier path with them if that’s the reason. sebdeserio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I don't think "leaning" towards another team would discourage callups in a 53 man roster if Herdman thinks the player is good enough / necessary. Let's not forget that Flores and Jebbison were on the 2021 Gold Cup prelim roster. Bigandy, Obinna, InglewoodJack and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Weren't both of these guys alternates to the U23 olympic squad? I recall Abzi was for sure. Perhaps he/they have chips on their shoulders for that reason. Either way, it's disappointing for sure. Those two were top of my list for new names. Also while I am here, 3 complaints/observations: 1. Henry? With all due respect, dude hasn't been fit all season. I hope this is just symbolic. 2. Am I blind or is Priso missing? If we have 7 unused spots why not list him? Surely he's not that far away is he? Recall he is a dual national (Cameroon). 3. Spoony was named and I am not sure whether he realistically has a place. Shouldn't we be looking to the future on that one (i.e. Priso for Spoony)? toontownman, Bison44, Jack1997 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pottsy3 said: I don't think "leaning" towards another team would discourage callups in a 53 man roster if Herdman thinks the player is good enough / necessary. Let's not forget that Flores and Jebbison were on the 2021 Gold Cup prelim roster. This is so true. Its a matter of Herdman not wanting them as they arent good enough/fit the team or they have other commitments. Farsi would never see the field so maybe herdman suggested to keep focusing on columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just now, Bigandy said: This is so true. Its a matter of Herdman not wanting them as they arent good enough/fit the team or they have other commitments. Farsi would never see the field so maybe herdman suggested to keep focusing on columbus. I am sorry but this is asinine. Not good enough? I don't know how Herdman could think that considering the other names and Farsi's body of work. Ditto Abzi. Maybe they are listed at the bottom? Looks like the second picture is cut off, but maybe I am being just being overly hopeful and seeing things... Shway, sebdeserio and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 We go on a lot about how our top end talent has improved over the last five years, but this list shows how much our depth has improved as well. We could field a few good teams from that list, which has never really been the case. dyslexic nam and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just went to the concacaf website. It is 53. Dammit. At least JRR is there. That's a good call. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Obinna said: Maybe they are listed at the bottom? Looks like the second picture is cut off, but maybe I am being just being overly hopeful and seeing things... Definitely being hopeful lol. I've seen other lists in the past, and when a team hasn't used their entire allotment it looks like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Being 7 short is concerning, especially when you can be on multiple lists at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Obinna said: I am sorry but this is asinine. Not good enough? I don't know how Herdman could think that considering the other names and Farsi's body of work. Ditto Abzi. Maybe they are listed at the bottom? Looks like the second picture is cut off, but maybe I am being just being overly hopeful and seeing things... How is that asinine? If herdman didnt call him up, then he doesnt think he is good enough, he doesnt fit the team, or hes got other commitments. I gave 3 options as to why he wouldnt be called up. To single out one option and call it asinine, while ignoring 2 other answers is a poor understanding of what I said. Can you name a 4th reason? Lets be real though. Farsi is not starting at wingback ahead of laryea, buchanan or johnston. Hes not starting at RB ahead of johnston or laryea either. Exact same logic can be applied to abzi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 If they had a few extra spots why wouldn't they just throw some top CPL guys on the list? At the very least it gives the commentators something to mention in the broadcast this week and overall helps the leagues image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Stryker911 said: If they had a few extra spots why wouldn't they just throw some top CPL guys on the list? At the very least it gives the commentators something to mention in the broadcast this week and overall helps the leagues image. Maybe in theory to show those who were asked but declined that there is a place for them? That is a reach tho so not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stryker911 said: If they had a few extra spots why wouldn't they just throw some top CPL guys on the list? At the very least it gives the commentators something to mention in the broadcast this week and overall helps the leagues image. I think its more to set a standard. Dont call up guys unless they deserve it. Calling up any CPL players would be to boost the league but not based on merit. I dont want the CPL getting handouts from our national team. What message would it send to a guy like Colyn if a CPL player gets a call over him just because they play CPL. Would he be enticed to leave europe to play CPL to get a look at the CMNT? Probably not but maybe? Handouts to the CPL would lower the incentive to go try your luck in other leagues. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1997 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Maybe the players like Priso, Farsi and Sigur had there clubs contacted and agreed to just stick with the team and train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bigandy said: I think its more to set a standard. Dont call up guys unless they deserve it. Calling up any CPL players would be to boost the league but not based on merit. I dont want the CPL getting handouts from our national team. What message would it send to a guy like Colyn if a CPL player gets a call over him just because they play CPL. Would he be enticed to leave europe to play CPL to get a look at the CMNT? Probably not but maybe? Handouts to the CPL would lower the incentive to go try your luck in other leagues. He did include Henry and Ayo though. Henry has been a great servant to the program but he isn’t playing. He was that one recent Minnesota United 2 appearance 2 weeks ago. Aylmer is playing but he is so far away from any type of decent form. Guess it’s easier including them because of experience they have. But it’s not based on form or merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Bigandy said: Lets be real though. Farsi is not starting at wingback ahead of laryea, buchanan or johnston. Hes not starting at RB ahead of johnston or laryea either. This is exactly it though. Farsi is competing with Johnston, Laryea, Zator, Buchanan, and Hoilett. On the left side, Abzi is competing with Davies, Adekugbe, Edwards, Raposo, and Millar. We're talking about sixth on the depth chart. Sure, you run the risk of having them go all Mitrovic on you and pouting, but again, we're talking about guys that are pretty far down the pecking order. The Canadian team isn't as easy to crack as it once was. I like Farsi alot and if he didn't have guys like Johnston and Laryea ahead of him, he'd definitely have a place. But he's going to have to raise his game a bit to be seriously considered for time. Bigandy, narduch, Jack1997 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, canuckgbp said: Being 7 short is concerning, especially when you can be on multiple lists at once. The Mexican list has only 40. At a certain point these start to lose their utility. There were probably only 25-30 guys Herdman was going to seriously call anyways The rest is just banter for us nerds Edited May 19, 2023 by narduch Sal333, Kent, red card and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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